Recent Thread & Other Concerns [Community Post]

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This is not an Anger Post. I ask for Folk to read the Whole Thing, Thoroughly Think, take into Serious Consideration then Respond.

And I know I'll probably get Banned for this, but things like this when they happen in a Community, it is healthy to bring up and talk about. For trust and strength reasons within a Community. Hopefully this could Inspire this Community to Talk and Come Together more, for a variety of Issues, not just stuff like this. Put this type of Group Problem Solving into Healthy Practice... This is a Community Topic Post as well as an Awareness One. I'll try to use Images, Others as well as Myself, for Short Examples. Since this is a Community Thing. Maybe this can be of some type of Help to Strengthen the Health of this Community.

This post is Me asking Questions, Bringing up some Things, and trying to Straighten things out... My recent thread called The Internet. Got shut down and no longer for replies do to a Misunderstanding. If post in a Forum, is no longer able for Comments which bring it Life, then it is a Shut Down for that Post. Just in case any don't know what I mean when I say that.


Here are the this Forum's Rules:
https://retrogametalk.com/threads/forum-rules-for-the-site-in-general.18/



Spike had wrote as the Last Post in the Thread called The Internet:
"I'm sure there were contributions from all sorts of people.
This thread seems to be trying to politicize the subject.
No need to stir the pot."

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It was not a Post to Stir any pot or Politicize. Just like my Previous Post with Sega and Fairchild, it was just something I wanted to share. I know sometimes things like that come off as Political, but if I wanted it Political then I would've put it in that Post. And why not take down the other Previous Post I posted like The Sega President Stan Thomas & Jerry Lawson's Fairchild Channel F Console? Since the, Contribution From All Sorts, was brought up? It is inconsistent since They are connected to The Internet Post. Also those Post are related when pertaining to Topic, and have more Folk responding to them... Also if go into the this Website's Search and type Political or Politics. There are plenty of Post that can be considered to be a try at, "Stirring the Pot" and a, "Try towards Politicizationing the Subject." Among other Post on this Website that is considered a Red Flag to the Forum Rules. Why not shut those down, for the exact same Reasons? This is a show at not just Inconsistency, but Targeting and Picking and Choosing. As well as Recklessness. Unless there are some Unwritten Rules that only The Owner and Chosen Mods, know about. Which is an Often Thing sometimes, even at Offline Jobs. This needs to be brought up and further Talked about...


Some Images Examples for Politics. Maybe y'all know of Other Things:
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It also comes off as Irresponsible because it was a Blind Assumptions with no Proof or Previous Questions. Which is what one Who manages a Community should do, because just Random Shutting Down things, starts to Rot the Connection and Trust of the Community. Who knows what who can Post, because of not knowing what it may be deemed as, by the Owners and Managers. This breeds Paranoia. Why try Share or Talk if just may get Shut Down? This guessing is not a Good Thing. It shows that there is no actual Strong Foundation to stand on... Also if a Community Member has no Previous History of Rule Breaking, and there is a Warning System. You should either ask that Member about the Post to then determine, if they should get a Warning or simply Shut Down Further Comments for a Post. Ignoring own Rules and going Straight for a Final Judgement, breeds Mistrust and Disdain in a Community. How can any trust what Anyone says this way? That is the Opposite of Balance. A Community talks to each other, to figure Things to prevent Blind Actions. This togetherness happened with the Discord Occurrence... This needs to be Serious Talked about before things could maybe become Worse in a way, due lack of True Communication, and Silent Acceptances of Certain Actions out of Fear of being Banned in a way. This is not how a Healthy, Kind and Welcoming Community is supposed to be ran. Is is not?


Last two Post & The Internet Post:
https://retrogametalk.com/threads/jerry-lawsons-fairchild-channel-f-console.4323/

https://retrogametalk.com/threads/sega-president-stan-thomas.4320/

https://retrogametalk.com/threads/the-internet.4380/#post-66742


Discord Thread Mentioned:
https://retrogametalk.com/threads/discord-server-shutdown.3982/page-4#post-64795


Further, even though never went through with it, those two were also supposed to be a part of The Internet Post as another Bigger Topic Thread, before I decided to Split them. The Topic was going to be about Things pertaining to Games and Online. If see those post then it shows how they're Related. Shouldn't those be Taken Down as well, because of also Supposedly running within your Reasons inside your Comment? Though never my Intentions to bring Political Things here.



Don't know if it made Spike mad due to saying, " I'm sure there were contributions from all sorts of people." Then the mention of Politics. Because from my experience with Folk, when they say that, whenever I bring up Topics like those, it usually means it made them feel some type of way. Isn't that Dismissive when considering the Context of things? If the post made Spike feel a way, just know I was not targeting You. Or trying to put you on the Spot, even now, in a Negative way... But stuff like this needs to be Brought Up, and Serious Spoken About with the Community. Due to it not being a Good Look on your Part, which reflects back on This Website and Moderators. It is an Image and Responsibility Thing. I've seen post of Other Users with Similar or Other Complaints and Concerns, and there are Possibly more yet in The Mind, not written. This needs to be Talked about, not Ignored or deemed as Ridiculous or Pushed Away as some simple Anger Post...

I am sure Others here have the Same or Similar Thoughts. Surely after that Discord Thing and maybe Before it. I've brought up Community Topic things before. This is not a New Thing. When trying to upkeep a Community. Don't you think that Job should be taken Serious? With Care, Consideration, Openness, Thoughtfulness, more. Certain forms of Love, especially for your Creation and what Inhabits it to bring it Life and keeps it Alive.

I won't go Further because then it be Long. My Union Posts I was working on was going to go into stuff like this, and these Types of things here. But I guess this Post will do, since it may be my Last... If so then try to upkeep Healthy Practices, Inspire each other and more, have an Open Mind. The Usual stuff I wrote about on here. At least try...


This is a Serious Community Topic. I used Others as well as Myself, for Examples. Since this is Community Thing. Maybe you all have Things to Share. Let this Thread be that Place for You all to Openly Speak Your Mind and Questions. To come together as a Community for the Better of not just Selves and this Site, possibly for Other Things. This is Imperative for all of Us, so don't Hesitate or be Scared to Share anything... Maybe you all know of Other Cases here.


What are This Communities' Serious Thoughts on all of This?
 
Yeah, I don't get the point in closing your topic, but it is not my site. Although, maybe it is a hint in the future to put more context into your posts. If you wanted to highlight the contributions of African Americans to the development of the internet, state it as so.
 
Yeah, I don't get the point in closing your topic, but it is not my site. Although, maybe it is a hint in the future to put more context into your posts. If you wanted to highlight the contributions of African Americans to the development of the internet, state it as so.
It wasn't about highlighting African Americans. The Post is mainly a Community Concern thing. I had mentioned the Original Posts were going to be about Union Things. It is not a Personal Thing but a Community Thing. I had wrote of such things before. I had just added the Recent Thing with my Previous Post... The reason why I'd ask to Think about what I posted before any response, is to try and not have People be within the thing of Not Getting it. I tried to connect and bring things Together in the Post.
 
It wasn't about highlighting African Americans. The Post is mainly a Community Concern thing. I had mentioned the Original Posts were going to be about Union Things. It is not a Personal Thing but a Community Thing. I had wrote of such things before. I had just added the Recent Thing with my Previous Post... The reason why I'd ask to Think about what I posted before any response, is to try and not have People be within the thing of Not Getting it. I tried to connect and bring things Together in the Post.

I'm not sure what you mean about all this but you don't need to convince me. It's not my forum and I'm not a mod.
 
Yeah, talk to Spike about this, maybe he'll help you.
It is mainly a Community Topic for this Whole Community. It is not a Personal Thing. I tried explaining this in The Post, but maybe how it is written, it may come off as janky or confusing. Sorry if that is the case, I tried my best to break down and bring up things pertaining to this Community. The Main Topic is not about The Internet Post or African American. I had put what the Topic is mainly about, unless I had put it in a weird way. If so then didn't mean to.
 
And I know I'll probably get Banned for this
Absolutely not.

As far as your other points... this is all better addressed to Spike directly, but I understand (and appreciate) you wanting to make it into a community thing.
 
I'm not sure what you mean about all this but you don't need to convince me. It's not my forum and I'm not a mod.
I'm not trying to Convince anyone. If any think this, it not the Case. I put all my Intentions and Honesty in what I write. My mistake if you or any think I'm trying to Convince...

It is not about you being the Specific Owner. But without you all, this site would just be an Empty Body. You all give it Life, Character, Warmth, Passion and Meaning by Inhabiting it and doing things. You all are just as Imperative to this Site and what it is, as the Owner. All of you Matter and Deeply Contribute to the Health of this Site and Community.
 
Its not really a community concern because the community doesn't have the ability to reopen closed posts or dictate policy. That's something to discuss with the mods or with Spike.
 
Absolutely not.

As far as your other points... this is all better addressed to Spike directly, but I understand (and appreciate) you wanting to make it into a community thing.
It is a form of Direct Address to Spike and This Community. But for both as One, because Spike is part of this Community. It is not a Strictly Personal Thing. If was then I would go to Spike directly and try to have a Talk with him. However, the Post is for all within this Community. I don't mind if any of my post are Shut Down. But it is about the way of Going about it, and more. I tried to explain it in the Post...

Though I know some may not Read the whole thing to know what it is about. Or think it is of Arrogance. It is not. That is why we must come together, help each other to try and prevent such things.

I'm not trying to cause any Negative Happening or have be about Me. It is not about me, but the Community. I had tried to directly state this in The Original Post. I tried putting everything out there in Explanation. I know some may see it as selfish due to not quite Understanding, but I'm sure with the Help of Others here, the misunderstandings can be changed.

I know something Positive may come out of all of this...
 
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Message Spike, it's his website.
But a zero tolerance stance on Political discourse means zero tolerance.

I know this may be hard, but some people have trouble separating their own identity from contemporary politics and will often post subjects they may feel is innocent only to find out politically divisive to others.
Its the Eco chamber mentality, the arrogant belief that you are the baseline for the rest of a community.
It's good practise to check yourself and break away from the notion that just because you share a hobby with some one the two of you are politically aligned.
If Spike felt you crossed a line, that's between the two of you.

As for the rest:
 
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Its not really a community concern because the community doesn't have the ability to reopen closed posts or dictate policy. That's something to discuss with the mods or with Spike.
It is not about Regular Users being able to Open and Reopen Post. I tried to explain it is not a Personal Thing about my Thread, In the Original Post. But when it pertains to Policies within the Community, it not just a Mod and Owner Concern, but a Community one. Because the Community is what matters a great deal, as well. If not then why have a Public Environment. The whole point is to Talk to each other as a Community. Spike and the Mods are Part of this Community. We all have and add great Value here.
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Message Spike, it's his website.
But a zero tolerance stance on Political discourse means zero tolerance.

I know this may be hard, but some people have trouble separating their own identity from contemporary politics and will often post subjects they may feel is innocent only to find out politically divisive to others.
Its the Eco chamber mentality, the arrogant belief that you are the baseline for the rest of a community.
It's good practise to check yourself and break away from the notion that just because you share a hobby with some one the two of you are politically aligned.
If Spike felt you crossed a line, that's between the two of you.

As for the rest:
If any of my stuff came off to You or any as feeling that I'm the Baseline for the Community. My mistake. That is not my Intention. My thing is that as Community, if not all, at least some need to Speak up when it pertains to certain things. Not just be quiet. It is not about Politics. I tried explaining this in The Original Post. The Post is about multiple things as one Topic. The Topic being about this Community. I just tried to speak up about a couple things. It is not about one thing or anything Selfish. My mistake if you or anyone else thinks so. Things like this and other, can helped be resolved by coming together and talking about it. Not ever arguing, dismissing or simple assuming, but by asking questions before coming up with a final assumption.

What are your thoughts?
 
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Highlighting contributions from minorities through the history is not political on itself, it's actually very interesting considering history actually tried to erase their achievements at some point. I think we could have a thread like this if everyone plays nice.
 
Highlighting contributions from minorities through the history is not political on itself, it's actually very interesting considering history actually tried to erase their achievements at some point. I think we could have a thread like this if everyone plays nice.
I assume the reason Spike locked The Internet thread is that he though it would start a political discourse by its mere existence.
 
Highlighting contributions from minorities through the history is not political on itself, it's actually very interesting considering history actually tried to erase their achievements at some point. I think we could have a thread like this if everyone plays nice.
I wholeheartedly agree with this.

It's a very interesting topic to be sure. I recently learned why most of us can even survive going for a drive and who do we owe that to. It was mind-blowing to say the least.

However, those kinds of topics can easily go wrong and it's a damn shame that that's the internet in general (not just our little corner). It'd be amusing if it wasn't so sad.

We can talk to bots who know everything, but can't really talk among ourselves.
 
you are also a giant pussy. /s ; )
You and Fake-Kun have things that can Positively Contribute to this thread's Topic, and each other. I made this thread so we can actually talk to each other, about a Specific Topic; This Community. No need to say such stuff to each other like that. Y'all can help each other Grow and Develop and Better Develop. You never know.
 
Well, they weren't banned (it probably wasn't really warranted), but it's true certain sensitive topics derail too easily and need to be contained early. When communities are large, the intent of someone's voice becomes less important than the reactions of the listeners. The point isn't stifling someone's voice, but rather trying to avoid the possibility of it creating a wrong echo.

It's a little sad, but it is the reality of dealing with large numbers of people. There is always a disparity between the overseers and the overseen.
 
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