RE: Halo

[Neb Lleb]

I screwed up.
There. That's it.
What you want more? Okay.

I'm quite irritable and I have a few people who tick me off. One of these groups of people I hate is the Halo Doomers: A bunch of people who have declared war on Halo Studios, formerly 343 Industries, for what they consider the mismanagement of the Halo game series.
It goes without saying that on the one hand... I do think they have a point. I frequently play Halo Infinite Multiplayer, and I do think Halo Studios are making minor strides in improving their reputation, but the fact is that these strides not nearly enough, as over seven years they have screwed up in some pretty baffling ways, such as Halo 5: Guardians, ignoring the plot of 5 for Infinite and resolving it off-screen, firing the people who designed an in-house engine, and the Halo TV show (it's Adi Shankar levels of bad). They screwed up, and the efforts they're making to redeem themselves might be too little, too late.
However, I despise them. Why? Because they have become so addicted to shitting on Halo Studios that it's practically all they think of 24/7. They keep on regurgitating the same talking points, spewing forth the same amount of annoying visceral bile, and seem to lack any constructive argument.
So, once Halo Studios announced Halo: Campaign Evolved for a 2026 release date, it was inevitable that Halo Doomers here would take up much of the discourse on this thread. I should've known this would happen. I should've stayed clear of these various threads. But I didn't. And now, after posting so many negative responses to Halo Doomers, I realise that... I had become like them. Too much hate is just as shitty as the thing it's hating on, and I had became so addicted to the negativity that I wound up becoming just as much of a hateful, mad, raving dingus as they are, if not moreso. In fact, I might have even gone after people who probably aren't even all that bad and just so happen to dislike how the franchise was mismanaged.

I don't know if anyone will accept my apology, but... I'm sorry. I let my ego and attitude get the better of me, and I own my bad behaviour. You want to doompost about Halo, Halo Sutdios and Unreal Engine 5? Go on. Know that I will simply hit the "ignore" key from here on out and stay clear of such threads. It's my fault for being so headstrong and letting my own hatred get the better of me.

 

[Heinzu]

 

[moonbits]

it was funny that my profile picture was some sort of obvious bungie fanboy flag to you but other than that don't be so hard on yourself.

 

[Aziamuth]

Reality check: Halo was never that good

 

[MajesticSiN]

Halo is pretty fun.

 

[PhaseJump]

Reality check: Halo was never that good

At launch it was. Halo 2 campaign had no ending and the whole franchise could just fuck right off at that point. The sequels were good, but on 360 there was better shit to play.

 

[TechBlisSTer]

Halo is what sold Xboxes. Halo is a big part of what sold Xbox 360. Right from the moment Halo 4 released you could tell something awful happened. There were some hit and misses since then. And I actually had fun playing Halo 5 on a Series X because the performance was so much better that the game felt good to play. That was the end of finding enjoyment in Halo. The first three games will never be matched. And any sort reboot/remaster crap they're doing now is nothing more than a soulless cashgrab.

 

[Metroid_Hybrid]

Now THAT is what I would call: "engaging with the argument!"
There was still a little bit of implied "mind-reading" in the "24/7" part, but when couched within an otherwise mature & very reasonable explanation like that... Cool..

 

[Rocket2049]

this is why i wonder how i'd feel if i played any Halo past 2,
cause i love halo 2 a whole lot it was the most fun i've had with friends.

 

[KenaiPhoenix]

I'm quite irritable

We realize

Anyways, this is the classic post of:

"Yes, I realize that less than the span of time Bungie build a titan, they destroyed is in the never ending chance of profits and 'broader audiences'. But we still need to give them a chance! Enjoy the slop!"

Nah, me and many refuse: we bought Halo 4 that was made to attract CoD and changed everything, we bought the MCC that was a mess until their relaunch it on PC, we bought Halo 5 when it was a e-sport trend chaser and we even bought Halo Infinite that was trying to be fortnite and have a really aggressive monetization.

But worry not, we forgive you, because the new batch of Halo players always knew Halo as this outsider FPS that was nitche, not the titan that dominated CoD and BF in its first games. And thats why we are hold them more accountable: we know Halo can be so much better, but it is not, because people running it just want to get a quick buck from fans, while trying to be something else.

In short: Halo was a trend creator, not a trend chacer