PlayStation apparently forcing 30 day license verification on new purchases

[Tortuga]

The fact sony hasn't said anything yet is a massive red flag

 

[Kovlak]

The fact sony hasn't said anything yet is a massive red flag

Their communication doesn't give me any confidence. And this last explanation has just surfaced today. Before an "anonymous insider" was saying it was a bug...

 

[SamanthaSamantha's icon]

They are backing away awkwardly like a dump truck caught at an intersection.

Not good.

 

[Kovlak]

Finally PlayStation responded in an official manner:

"Players can continue to access and play their purchased games as usual. A one-time online check is required to confirm the game's license, after which no further check-ins are required."

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/p...icense-checks-for-digital-games/1100-6539651/

So a bug it was not.

 

[BrawlMan]

Finally PlayStation responded in an official manner:

"Players can continue to access and play their purchased games as usual. A one-time online check is required to confirm the game's license, after which no further check-ins are required."

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/p...icense-checks-for-digital-games/1100-6539651/

So a bug it was not.

Why couldn't they just say that in the first place?

They can still fuck off for letting the misinformation go on for this long.

 

[SamanthaSamantha's icon]

Why couldn't they just say that in the first place?

They can still fuck off for letting the misinformation go on for this long.

Yeah.

Plus, why do I need to confirm the license of anything? I bought the console, it should be up to me what I fill it with.

Shit like that is why I killed off my Disney+ subscription.

 

[Kovlak]

why do I need to confirm the license of anything? I bought the console, it should be up to me what I fill it with.

What is being pushed is that this is a measure to fight fraud around refunding. There was an exploit where people were buying games, downloading them, putting the console offline and then refunding them making them able to play them as long as the console was kept offline. Thus now in the refund period the game's license is temporary.

 

[SamanthaSamantha's icon]

What is being pushed is that this is a measure to fight fraud around refunding. There was an exploit where people were buying games, downloading them, putting the console offline and then refunding them making them able to play them as long as the console was kept offline. Thus now in the refund period the game's license is temporary.

Ok, that makes sense. Thanks.

But Sony is gonna have to take a deep look at their own PR and communication departments — this raised more red flags than a May Day parade on Moscow, and it was basically preventable with a damn tweet.

 

[Kovlak]

But Sony is gonna have to take a deep look at their own PR and communication departments — this raised more red flags than a May Day parade on Moscow, and it was basically preventable with a damn tweet.

Yep. PlayStation's communication department, and leadership, doesn't provide much confidence to its clients.

 

[Yousef Yousef]

It’s now been proven false although don’t hold your breath.
With this stuff, it’s never a matter of if, but only when.

 

[Kovlak]

It’s now been proven false although don’t hold your breath.
With this stuff, it’s never a matter of if, but only when.

But hopefully this gave PlayStation pause.

 

[Isegrim]

Their reluctance to respond gives me doubts on the whole thing. It makes me think, they really want to implement the whole full blown 30 day thing. But responding to clear up the waters could be used as a weapon in the future against them if they do implement it in the future.

So better to be silent about it and let the hardcore Sony fans defend them while just taking a wait and see attitude for now.

 

[Metroid_Hybrid]

Their reluctance to respond gives me doubts on the whole thing. It makes me think, they really want to implement the whole full blown 30 day thing. But responding to clear up the waters could be used as a weapon in the future against them if they do implement it in the future.

So better to be silent about it and let the hardcore Sony fans defend them while just taking a wait and see attitude for now.

Exactly..
This whole situation absolutely reeks of "motte and bailey" shenanigans..

 

[Ikagura]

A one-time online check is required to confirm the game's license, after which no further check-ins are required.

That's still one time too many, lol.

And what if it's a second hand game?

 

[Tortuga]

Finally PlayStation responded in an official manner:

"Players can continue to access and play their purchased games as usual. A one-time online check is required to confirm the game's license, after which no further check-ins are required."

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/p...icense-checks-for-digital-games/1100-6539651/

So a bug it was not.

Sound like bullshit to me
A one-time online check? But people already tested and after renewing license timer reset back to 29 days
And again no official statement just respond to game journalist
Something not right here

 

[-------]

Always a small statement from Sony on the whole story. I had to get verified yesterday. Now I'm really curious to see how everything will go.

 

[DjQuick2008]

if this goes through im back to ps2 and ps3 which ive got a ton of games for anyway.

 

[Ikagura]

This video feels like a different era...

 

[Kovlak]

That's still one time too many, lol.

And what if it's a second hand game?

I believe it is only for downloadable games.

Sound like bullshit to me
A one-time online check? But people already tested and after renewing license timer reset back to 29 days
And again no official statement just respond to game journalist
Something not right here

Yes, the no official statement is weird. But I think games were never really tested after 14 days after purchase. Or there would be comotion online.

I think it's probably true, and it's probably wiser to wait it out to see if it plays out as advertised. Personally, I pretty much have all the games I wanted for my PS4, so I'll probably just going to keep it offline outside of a game update or another as I install physical games.

 

[JellyjamLu]

What is being pushed is that this is a measure to fight fraud around refunding. There was an exploit where people were buying games, downloading them, putting the console offline and then refunding them making them able to play them as long as the console was kept offline. Thus now in the refund period the game's license is temporary.

Oh that really clears things up!
still.. would have saved alot of bother if, instead of making it a secretive thing to begin with they should have instead simply made an official statement to say: This is in place, why it's in place and what the protocol is and how it would effect you as a user. in this case, nothing to really worry about then.

Communication at it's finest.

 

[Kovlak]

Oh that really clears things up!
still.. would have saved alot of bother if, instead of making it a secretive thing to begin with they should have instead simply made an official statement to say: This is in place, why it's in place and what the protocol is and how it would effect you as a user. in this case, nothing to really worry about then.

Communication at it's finest.

I think PlayStation upper management sees itself above the plebs and their public comotions. And probably doesn't want to make statements they'll walk back in the future. But this doesn't give much trust in their operation.

 

[Isegrim]

I've watched videos about Sony's response.

But I'll still keep a healthy distrust of the latter. The reason is...it's actually difficult to refund Sony's games. Recently, I tried it in their website. The auto refund request option refused even though I haven't downloaded it and just bought it. The only option left was to talk with a Sony rep or maybe through the chat bot. I didn't try any of the options since my country isn't supported by Sony and my account is in another country. I was afraid I might get into trouble if the Sony rep started asking questions...and might give me some unforeseen complications later on.

The game I wanted to refund was bought at an 80% discount and was really cheap so I decided to just shoulder the loss.

Anyway going back to the subject, my point was Sony (in my case) seems to be determined to make sure refunds required contact with maybe a bot or more likely, directly contacting a Sony rep. At least that's my experience...I'm not sure how it is with refunds in other regions.

Are that many people really that brazen enough to contact a Sony rep multiple times refunding a game that Sony had to put this kind of DRM? I just feel...suspicious about Sony's explanation.

 

[JellyjamLu]

I think PlayStation upper management sees itself above the plebs and their public comotions. And probably doesn't want to make statements they'll walk back in the future. But this doesn't give much trust in their operation.

Yes, i'm sure they have their internal reasons, that's a very fair point made.
Cheers on reporting this.

Closing thoughts: Fook PlayStation either way lol

 

[Kovlak]

I've watched videos about Sony's response.

But I'll still keep a healthy distrust of the latter. The reason is...it's actually difficult to refund Sony's games. Recently, I tried it in their website. The auto refund request option refused even though I haven't downloaded it and just bought it. The only option left was to talk with a Sony rep or maybe through the chat bot. I didn't try any of the options since my country isn't supported by Sony and my account is in another country. I was afraid I might get into trouble if the Sony rep started asking questions...and might give me some unforeseen complications later on.

The game I wanted to refund was bought at an 80% discount and was really cheap so I decided to just shoulder the loss.

Anyway going back to the subject, my point was Sony (in my case) seems to be determined to make sure refunds required contact with maybe a bot or more likely, directly contacting a Sony rep. At least that's my experience...I'm not sure how it is with refunds in other regions.

Are that many people really that brazen enough to contact a Sony rep multiple times refunding a game that Sony had to put this kind of DRM? I just feel...suspicious about Sony's explanation.

Yeah, PlayStation support is really sketchy. The one time I contacted support because they had taken away my Fallout 4 dlc, I had to get their phone number from a website not afilliated with PlayStation, as it wasn't presented anywhere in their website. They just give you the run around.

My feeling is that PlayStation tries to make getting official support as hard as possible to see if people give up in the process.

 

[x_lodx_lod's icon]

I haven't even commented here yet, I just want to know how the game issue will work. Do we have to check every day or only once a week? Have a great day, my Friend