Yeah that was sick, also pushing that cart into the enemies, the combat is very satisfying with the parries and dodges, very excited for full release.
Just watched the "gameplay" for God of War Laufey and all I can think about now is this
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There was some games interesting in there, but overall it felt pretty predictable and mid.
I don't know dude, I was too happy watching action, blood and violence to see if the woman of a videogame is pretty or not. I mean, why would I bother to see if they're ugly woman, when I can appreciate gameplay?
I thought of this:Just watched the "gameplay" for God of War Laufey and all I can think about now is this
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That's something you have to ask Sony. Why do they intentionally keep making their female characters ugly? The actresses used for the facial capture are beautiful, yet they intentionally make the in game model less attractive.
It's not the women per se, but it's a symptom of modern entertainment. It suggests that they're going to play safe, leaning in the gore, because it doesn't cause public backlash and drive investor money away, for now.
Yes, I know what Sony is doing, like many other companies nowadays. What I meant is that I don't care. If a game gives me a good gameplay and/or story, I'm happy; if there's (or isn't) fanservice, over sexualized characters, pretty or ugly women, I don't care.
Generally the stories told with sanitization like this are pretty meh. There's not that much that can be done without risking offending anyone, except maybe pandering to socially acceptable ideas to which DEI money reacts well...
Most sensible,z people in general don't care/don't mind of either option, but you have those spend way too much on social media, or think everyone woman should like a porn actress, Hollywood actress, or "their precious anime waifu".
Stop using DEI as an insult. That is racist and sexist grifter/schemer talk. Games were already multicutural since the late 80s and early 90s. Especially when games like Steet Fighter, Streets of Rage, and Fatal Fury took off. Plenty of indie games are multicultural, and you don't see many people complaining about those, nor using DEI as an insult, unless they're already part of the hate anything that is different from them. I may not like most AAA games, but DEI was never the "downfall". It was always a scapegoat made by fools fooling other fools to get money, get richer, and/or stay rich. Consultants are not inherently evil, and can be useful in the right hands. Like usually is. Even indie games have used consultants and still have done well for themselves.
It would be racist and grifting if I was actually attacking the core beliefs that underpin DEI, I would be indeed racist or sexist. But it's not racist not sexist to point out that indeed DEI is the term by which an investment firm that has a portfolio of billions of dollars in investment - Blackrock - classifies an investment market all about pushing blindly progressive social agendas, no matter how bizarre or destructive - like that woman in charge at the Black Panther studio that only hired black people because of micro-agressions -, and that has had a significant negative impact on videogames in the last decade.
Funny enough, there's those on the other side that, do the exact same thing (be they actual corporations or grifters on youtube and social media) but it's okay, so long as the characters where people are white or white adjacent. I'm not defending blackrock on every single thing nor a shield for a corpos in general, but DEI has become nothing more than a meaningless buzzwords for people to hate on anything different from them. Don't use this even when it's not about race or gender anymore. Anything that helps the disabled playing games or portrays them as just people counts as "DEI SLOP" now. It's gotten really ridiculous, and why I pointed this out.
It's a social reaction. Sure some companies and people are milking it, but before The Last of Part 2, there was hardly any discussion about the color, race or sex of the characters, or about pushing ideologies. Then, after that the flood gates opened.
HAHAHAHAH. Yes there was. It was about sex (gender specicially), or how Abby is "way too buff/ugly for an apocalypse", even though you have a bunch of roided up dudes in Fist of the Northstar running around in Asian Mad Max territory. Keep in mind, FOTNS takes place after a nuclear war with not much vegetation. TLOUS games at least have wild life and plenty of vegetation and secured communities/faculties around. Even when they are heavily fortified, and have gardens to them. They hid their sexism behind how it "makes no sense, because she's a woman". Yet would turn a blind eye or not say a damn thing, if Abby were a man. Keep in mind, I don't like the majority of the cast in general, but these so called "fans" or haters were really loud about it, and started doing death/rape threats to the voice actor of the character Abby. Not cool, and they can fuck off and get river stomped in the groin with a steel toed boot wrapped in barbwire.
Yes, because a bunch of racist/sexist asshole couldn't handle woman or person of color being in a lead role for several games, and wormed their way into the medium to make things worse for everyone. They've won nothing. Plenty of indie games are multicutural or made by women or non-white people, and it also pisses those petty bitches off. Thankfully, a large majority of indie the crowd told the racist and sexist fuck heads to fuck off and say we all want nothing to do with you. The indie community strong and can smell fake/toxic fans.
"Stop using this terms that has a definition, because I DONT LIKE IT! Even if it is a well documented fact and its negative impacts are well recorded. Otherwise I will call you [current bad names]"
Nothing inherently wrong with being diverse or inclusional. When you see it as a net negative or was turned into pejorative, you need to stop and look in the actual mirror. Once again, not defending corporations, but using DEI as an insult has always been grifter talk and made by those who hated others for being different to begin with, and way less educated and don't know a single thing they're talking about, and act like they're the ultimate expert with nothing, but armchair science.. If you can't figure that out, then we have nothing left to discuss. There are plenty of indie games that are not afraid to be diverse or inclusive. You don't see them getting ragged on it a majority of the time. Yes, these games actually come from different people, from all different walks of life, but that doesn't make them bad nor wrong either. Also, having a consultant is not inherently that either. They're not always required, but it does help depending on the subject matter or for a culture/race that hasn't been portrayed positively or only using outdated stereotypes. You would know this as you actually bothered to look.
It is when it is forced and only to check some boxes for money/attention.
I have and Im not only based, Im beautiful
Not really forced when it comes from the heart of having more people exposed to different walks of life. Once again, see the indie crowd. You don't make that complaint with franchises like Streets of Rage, Street Fighter, and many times SEGA was not afraid and still not afraid to have black characters in lead roles, or be main characters.
Sounds like you're stroking your own genitals to me and looking only at your shallow self. You need to work on that.
Everything sounds like a you problem, and ignore the good points I brought up. Sounds like you're mad, because I am not part of your echo chamber. I can tell when it's all about the money for the corpos, but I am not going to hate someone for doing their own thing, or showing other people and cultures in a positive light, or showing them as just people like any other normal person. Looks like you got some issues you need working out on, and the grifters and bitches in box stand won't actually help you out. Only sell fear and hatred with no actual solutions, or solutions that only benefit them.
Wow, this thread is evolving fast. I can see the "no open for further replies" soon.
Before The Last of Us Part 2 launched nobody knew about Abby. Or Joel getting the golf club to the head treatment.
I think, at least for now, the problem is seeing male main characters substituted by women or people of color in games in general. Kratos, Peter Parker, Jin, Alan Wake, Geralt of Rivia, etc.
Still doesn't change the fact people went way overboard and went beyond bitch/asshole territory.
So did Kojima when it came to the marketing of MGS2, and he got praised for it years after the fact by hardcore MGS fans, and was already gaining praise from critics when the game first released. Also, ND was not only game to use fake footage during the 7th and 8th generation, nearly any game that did, never got it this hard. I am not defending ND on it, but people need learn to grow the fuck up and not hyperventilate, because they didn't get everything they wanted, and start hurting others who had nothing to do with the final decisions. Though if it were up to me, I would not have bothered with a sequel in the first place, or have it take place with a completely different cast of characters in the same universe.
Even when it's an original game (many indie and AA games) with main characters who are POC or women with no legacy character to speak of, those same bitch ass grifters will cry and complain about "men or white men being replaced". Or crying about how they will "never be replaced". Let's not make excuses for these assholes. Also, most of them never have shit about Alan nor Jin first place especially. Considering how well Yotei did, the grifters and racist/sexist assholes are even more full of shit. All they cared about was using Jin and Tsushima as a stepping stone against TLOUS2. Real actual fans told those fakes and whatever toxic fans on either side to fuck off and leave us alone.
Yeah, the racist and sexist assholes doing in the first place, and acting as if they didn't say or do anything wrong. Yet encourage. I love Freeman, but that clip does not exactly help when it comes to these fools supporting their pathetic arguments. The fact indie games from all different walks of life who are not afraid of their origins, or where they come from keeps proving these assholes wrong, and show they're mainly the problem. Nothing wrong with diversity as a whole, nor is it always "forced" they like to think or believe. It's not forced, they just can't stand anything different, nor anything that challenges their narrow minded world view.
