Modern games cost too much

Games went through a period of being cheap, well, relatively cheap, from about 2001 - 2016.

Before that they were expensive due to manufacturing costs. After that they are expensive because of shareholders and standard pricing.

Arguments are made by business types that we get far more value an hour per dollar than say a book or a movie. This is just trying to justify greed. Mario kart world is not worth 80, game is barebones, has a fun set of cups for maybe 1 or 2 playthroughs but does not have the replay value of almost every Mario kart beforehand.

Video games make more money than any other type of media, by a large margin, this is were the modern issue of it's expense is coming from. There's also the issue of triple A games not being budgeted correctly and causing a massive money sink that needs to be recuperated.

All this just to say it went from expensive manufacturing cost, to affordable, to inflated pricing that genuinely cannot be justified outside of mismanaged development costs, even then it's clearly just inflated pricing as manufacturing costs aren't even in the equation for the most part anymore, so It's clearly becoming a "luxury".

As for the why direction of "luxury", proof of this is the price of modern GPU's(a knock on effect from AI boom and crypto mining) and even the marketing of the switch 2, Nintendo do not want to be the affordable family console anymore but a high end tech product, chasing the high end PC market would also be affecting this, this is where the tech whales are. This is also why we started getting "pro" monikers on consoles, some people take that word very seriously.

Buying a high end PC/Laptop specifically for gaming and not just upgrading ram or a GPU is costing between €3,500 - €6,000 in Europe with it being around $500-800 cheaper in America. Ironically most PC gamers own a mid range PC at best, that usually tends to match current console generation in terms of how games look and run as the games tends to be excessively optimised to run on consoles, but are often bought still many times more than the price of a ps5, because of the stigma of "console player". There's definitely a broken almost classist mindset around a lot of this and that's it's own terrible can of worms.

I literally only bought a high end Laptop for developer reasons, but I am well aware that spending that much to play games at 240fps is some serious whale behaviour.
 
I don't want to read the full thread but I'd be the devil's advocate and argue that even in the SNES days games were expensive (even without inflation rate).
 
I tapped out just before the Xbox One. The newest console I have is a Wii U and I can see myself probably getting rid of that sooner than later. Best case scenario is a get a modded PS4 (Pro) and a One X to play the vanishingly small number of Xbox exclusives.

Hell, I don't even have a Steam account. I pretty much exclusively play 10+ year old pirated games and that's basically it. In that sense, I've "retired" from gaming considering the companies don't really even see me as a customer anymore. I don't really care for whatever the hell the industry morphed into during the 2010's, so why would I want to buy any console from the 2020's onward?

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I don't want to read the full thread but I'd be the devil's advocate and argue that even in the SNES days games were expensive (even without inflation rate).
This was manufacturing costs though, cartridges were very expensive, these days most sales are digital and maintaining servers is much, much cheaper than assembling cartridges in the 80's and 90's.

There's a reason we all rented back then outside of maybe a Christmas or birthday gift, compared to when CD's and DVD's became much cheaper to manufacture. Now it's all on servers and basically printing money which means the profit margins are higher than ever.

The switch 2 would still be turning a profit even if it was sold for $300 based on all it's parts, it explains the price in Japan, they're just fleecing the rest of the world because gaming is becoming a "luxury".
 
Digital deluxe as a concept is an aberration to me.

Paying extra to play it 3 days early

Advertising dlc when the game just came out
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There's a reason we all rented back then outside of maybe a Christmas or birthday gift, compared to when CD's and DVD's became much cheaper to manufacture. Now it's all on servers and basically printing money which means the profit margins are higher than ever.

Its all cause they dont want their online storefront to compete with retail

That said they hated retail enough to invent online passes (or catwoman passes)
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I tapped out just before the Xbox One. The newest console I have is a Wii U and I can see myself probably getting rid of that sooner than later. Best case scenario is a get a modded PS4 (Pro) and a One X to play the vanishingly small number of Xbox exclusives.

Hell, I don't even have a Steam account. I pretty much exclusively play 10+ year old pirated games and that's basically it. In that sense, I've "retired" from gaming considering the companies don't really even see me as a customer anymore. I don't really care for whatever the hell the industry morphed into during the 2010's, so why would I want to buy any console from the 2020's onward?

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So there are people with the same metality as me
 
Who invented it?

The first game I recall doing it was deus ex mankind divided

Which had a uniquely bullshit preorder method where the more people preordered it, the more stuff you got for doing it


Another unique bullshit is One Time Use "easy fatalities" for mortal kombat x


Remember platinum/greatest hits/nintendo selects? I heard those dont exist anymore
 
Remember platinum/greatest hits/nintendo selects? I heard those dont exist anymore.
I miss them.


But in the same time I heard the Platinum discs were somewhat "weaker" so could get broken more easily because they were cheaply made.

And it costs less when being sold because of the cover not being the original.
 
I'm trying to think of the last game that I played that was worth $70. Maybe KCD2? Most games nowadays -- especially AAA stuff -- suck.
 

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