Modern games cost too much

[DjQuick2008]

I bought maybe 3 games in the last 3 years, everything else I pirate. No modern triple-A company would spit on you if you were on fire, so why give them business? It's your responsibility to pirate modern games!

i only buy ps3/ps4 physical mainly these days because they go at a decent price.

 

[RanmyakuIchi's icon RanmyakuIchi RanmyakuIchi]

Honestly, the industry had been asking for piracy for some time, why deny them?

 

[Jayonnaise6105 Jayonnaise6105]

i only buy ps3/ps4 physical mainly these days because they go at a decent price.

Honestly, the industry had been asking for piracy for some time, why deny them?
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I mean, I've been buying quite a few really cheap games this year but they were all mostly from eBay. Not like those companies are seeing any of that money either

 

[Rocket2049]

I bought maybe 3 games in the last 3 years, everything else I pirate. No modern triple-A company would spit on you if you were on fire, so why give them business? It's your responsibility to pirate modern games!

i'm not gonna disagree, but there's a few reason i prefer to buy a game (not full price, i sale hunt a LOT)

1. automatic updates, pirate games don't update themselves and i've had enough annoyance of this when i can't find the updates
2. easier to redownload, it'd be easier through like, Steam, PSN, Xbox marketplace, eShop, mobile app store, etc.
3. cloud saves, losing saves is an absolute disaster.
4. general online features, multiplayer, events, seasonal stuff,

gabe newell said it best
"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem".
meaning, most piracy is because the service sucks.

 

[RebelofDaNeonGod]

I dunno what to tell you, bud, every single modern game I've gotten has been on sale or been at a large discount on keysites. I'm not gonna defend the asking price for these games, it's ridiculous, but there are ways around it, hell, just wait a bit and you'll get these expensive games for cheap. Every RE remake goes for 20 below if you just wait for a sale. I pity those that are trapped by the Cult of the New.

 

[GuyZero32k4]

"If you can't afford it, you're not a real fan."
I've bought lots of stupid shit through the years that's not always video games on impulse.

But I refuse to buy poor sub standard products, especially when it comes to video games. "The games not complete, it'll be patched in an update. Season pass has the content that should have there to begin with!"

And charge like a shit, makes wanna do this to the developer who does this shit to their face.:

 

[Dany28]

Yes that is true but everything comes into offer sooner or later. So you just have to wait.

 

[MrChester]

I dunno what to tell you, bud, every single modern game I've gotten has been on sale or been at a large discount on keysites. I'm not gonna defend the asking price for these games, it's ridiculous, but there are ways around it, hell, just wait a bit and you'll get these expensive games for cheap. Every RE remake goes for 20 below if you just wait for a sale. I pity those that are trapped by the Cult of the New.

This isn't just a response to you but everyone else that seems to think this post is about me looking for financial advice or that I'm entirely unaware of the concept of a sale. I understand that there are ways around this - we are literally on a piracy based website. To be perfectly honest, I'm never gonna buy Silent Hill f, or any of the modern Resident Evil games - they are not for me, but that doesn't mean that I can't be personally affected by the disgusting way the owners of these IPs treat their audience, and how they effectively turned said IPs into nothing more than branding. I pity those trapped by the Cult of the New too... that's why I'm so pissed off - THEY ARE THE VICTIMS (and I hate that I hate them so much)

I made this thread purely because I saw an injustice and was frustrated by my inability to meaningfully contribute to changing it. I didn't clean it up or make it coherent because I thought what I was saying was pretty basic stuff. But apparently not.

I had someone explain to me the concept of a whale when in my original post I used that term multiple times and didn't insult anyone's intelligence by explaining it. I've been called spoilt for complaining about an issue when I actually made no insinuation that I am even being directly affected by this issue. I've had numerous responses trying to rationalise this as necessary for the survival of the company and as the result of inflation (things that can literally be debunked). I've had people tell me that the burden of this is ultimately my responsibility (I just need to save or not be so attached to these games). And I've even had people, on this forum about discussing videogames and videogame culture, telling me there are bigger issues to talk about.

You say you aren't defending the prices, but frankly, by putting the burden of responsibility solely onto the consumer, YOU ARE defending it. By responding like that, you are antagonising people that feel like their interests are being exploited - you are attempting to silence the people that oppose this kind of business practice. So I gotta ask...

Why are you (and so many others) so resistant to the idea of holding the people who decide the prices of videogames as accountable for the rampant and predatory increase in videogame prices?

 

[RebelofDaNeonGod]

This isn't just a response to you but everyone else that seems to think this post is about me looking for financial advice or that I'm entirely unaware of the concept of a sale. I understand that there are ways around this - we are literally on a piracy based website. To be perfectly honest, I'm never gonna buy Silent Hill f, or any of the modern Resident Evil games - they are not for me, but that doesn't mean that I can't be personally affected by the disgusting way the owners of these IPs treat their audience, and how they effectively turned said IPs into nothing more than branding. I pity those trapped by the Cult of the New too... that's why I'm so pissed off - THEY ARE THE VICTIMS (and I hate that I hate them so much)

I made this thread purely because I saw an injustice and was frustrated by my inability to meaningfully contribute to changing it. I didn't clean it up or make it coherent because I thought what I was saying was pretty basic stuff. But apparently not.

I had someone explain to me the concept of a whale when in my original post I used that term multiple times and didn't insult anyone's intelligence by explaining it. I've been called spoilt for complaining about an issue when I actually made no insinuation that I am even being directly affected by this issue. I've had numerous responses trying to rationalise this as necessary for the survival of the company and as the result of inflation (things that can literally be debunked). I've had people tell me that the burden of this is ultimately my responsibility (I just need to save or not be so attached to these games). And I've even had people, on this forum about discussing videogames and videogame culture, telling me there are bigger issues to talk about.

You say you aren't defending the prices, but frankly, by putting the burden of responsibility solely onto the consumer, YOU ARE defending it. By responding like that, you are antagonising people that feel like their interests are being exploited - you are attempting to silence the people that oppose this kind of business practice. So I gotta ask...

Why are you (and so many others) so resistant to the idea of holding the people who decide the prices of videogames as accountable for the rampant and predatory increase in videogame prices?

I think you're getting lost for the trees here, dawg. I'm only going to address what was clearly meant as a response to my post.

Never had I placed the responsibility on the consumer nor did those intentions come from my post. All I had said is that there are ways around it and that I felt pity for those that must consume new products constantly. What you assume to be the placing of the burden is me simply stating that there are ways for you to work your way around this system that you or I, individually, can not change. Like you said "I didn't clean it up or make it coherent because I thought what I was saying was pretty basic stuff. But apparently not". It's just how capital works, something that was once niche gets popular, the profits seem large, investors and companies wish to increase profits and they WILL find a way, no matter how dogshit the ripples of the impact is. The best thing we can do within this market of shorthanding and moneygrubbing (at least within the AAA market) is to find any way we can to work around it. Hell, the consumer is slowly whittling away at this, look at the impending crash of the AAA industry while indies thrive. It feels that you are so vitriolic and passionate in your opinion, you're calling me a defender just because I'm not wholeheartedly saying I agree with you which I do, but I just didn't say those exact words. Like you mentioned, what website do you think we're fucking on? Is the only way to hold these faceless corporations "responsible" yelling at 30 people max on a thread on a rom website? Talk about this outside of just this community, create a dialogue, form a small movement, pirate, practice good praxis, something, because you are defintely not holding these people responsible by lashing out. You're doing nothing.

Also quit it with this corny "silencing" shit. I'm responding to your post on a public FORUM where the whole purpose is to have discussions with people who may or may not have differing opinions (WHICH I DON'T). You don't see my ass calling the staff and going "mods! mods! I don't agree with this, get it away!" Calm down and respond when you ain't whistling by the ears.

 

[kamille]

I only buy indie games anyway. They have replaced the bargain bin but sometimes very amazing games anyway.

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This isn't just a response to you but everyone else that seems to think this post is about me looking for financial advice or that I'm entirely unaware of the concept of a sale. I understand that there are ways around this - we are literally on a piracy based website. To be perfectly honest, I'm never gonna buy Silent Hill f, or any of the modern Resident Evil games - they are not for me, but that doesn't mean that I can't be personally affected by the disgusting way the owners of these IPs treat their audience, and how they effectively turned said IPs into nothing more than branding. I pity those trapped by the Cult of the New too... that's why I'm so pissed off - THEY ARE THE VICTIMS (and I hate that I hate them so much)

I made this thread purely because I saw an injustice and was frustrated by my inability to meaningfully contribute to changing it. I didn't clean it up or make it coherent because I thought what I was saying was pretty basic stuff. But apparently not.

I had someone explain to me the concept of a whale when in my original post I used that term multiple times and didn't insult anyone's intelligence by explaining it. I've been called spoilt for complaining about an issue when I actually made no insinuation that I am even being directly affected by this issue. I've had numerous responses trying to rationalise this as necessary for the survival of the company and as the result of inflation (things that can literally be debunked). I've had people tell me that the burden of this is ultimately my responsibility (I just need to save or not be so attached to these games). And I've even had people, on this forum about discussing videogames and videogame culture, telling me there are bigger issues to talk about.

You say you aren't defending the prices, but frankly, by putting the burden of responsibility solely onto the consumer, YOU ARE defending it. By responding like that, you are antagonising people that feel like their interests are being exploited - you are attempting to silence the people that oppose this kind of business practice. So I gotta ask...

Why are you (and so many others) so resistant to the idea of holding the people who decide the prices of videogames as accountable for the rampant and predatory increase in videogame prices?

Maybe I'll buy silent hill f at a discount someday since i like the writer that's worked on it. But otherwise! Nah... I'd skip. (And play hades 2)

 

[MrChester]

Never had I placed the responsibility on the consumer nor did those intentions come from my post.

Firstly, I disagree with this. You said "I dunno what to tell you, bud, every single modern game I've gotten has been on sale or been at a large discount on keysites" and I believe that this quite blatantly suggests that if you don't work around the initial asking price you are being irresponsible, ergo, it is your responsibility. You might agree with the sentiment that videogame prices are too high, but we are not seeing eye to eye - I am not interesting in rationalising predatory business behaviour as "avoidable" because I think it reduces the issue to "buyer discretion advised". Just for the sake of argument, I'd like to extrapolate this line of thinking to the extreme (and yeah, I'm well aware this is a pretty absurd). Obviously the interenet wasn't a thing back then but say it was around during WWII and I made a post saying "sure sucks ass that people are being rounded up into concentration camps" and you responded with something along the lines of "idk what to tell you buddy, I've always managed to duck capture". I just think it's a weirdly detached perspective to have and I think it suggests that the victims in this scenario just didn't "try hard enough". I'll admit, if you were coming in here and spreading lesser-known information on how the individual can better avoid price gouging, then that would be one thing, but just saying "duh, sales exist", though you obviously mean good by it, is kind of insulting.

But secondly, (and sorry if this is all a bit hyperspecific, I feel like you're referencing other messages on this thread but idk what you have and havent read) I put this out into a forum because I wanted to gauge the general attitude to this as well as fish for some new takes or valuable insight because I do not know what I want to do in response to this. That doesn't mean I have to respect every single surface level answer and bad take though - like I said, I had one guy who called me spoilt then argued it was inflation when it literally can be proven it isn't. Obviously I've taken a hostile approach to some of my responses, but not to anyone that didn't actively and directly insult me (and I mean literally) and even then only when I believed they were spreading misinformation. Saying that price gouging and inflation are to blame is not having a different opinion to me, it is factually incorrect (and adding a few insults in while saying that is silly). If you're like, desperate to analyse me specifically, just compare how I responded to those people with how I responded to the person that initially mentioned that games are not fundamental to our survival. That was interesting as shit, gave me a lot to think about, and frankly I think I came up with an interesting counterargument to that line of thinking that I wanted to see expanded upon further (but unfortunately the only response I got to that point was some guy basically saying "nuh-uh" and - from what I could tell - intentionally misreading what I'd put). Legitimately, I am totally up for anyone tearing apart my entire ideology and line of thinking, however, if somebody proposes a counterargument, and I say I disagree because it's hinged on a fallacy, and rather than arguing against that they just call me an idiot - surely that's fair game? How am I supposed to react to someone not making any counterargument and just implying I don't know what I'm talking about because they suggest I'm too young to have expereinced the SNES era firsthand? Cause all I did was plainly say it was irrelevant to the discussion.

I think I gave you a fair and detailed response that - even though aggressive - was not meant to insult you directly. Something which I don't think you could say about your response.

More onto the bulk of what you said though:

It's just how capital works, something that was once niche gets popular, the profits seem large, investors and companies wish to increase profits and they WILL find a way, no matter how dogshit the ripples of the impact is. The best thing we can do within this market of shorthanding and moneygrubbing (at least within the AAA market) is to find any way we can to work around it. Hell, the consumer is slowly whittling away at this, look at the impending crash of the AAA industry while indies thrive.

This is the start of what could have been an interesting point, the exact sort of thing I was looking for from this forum. Regardless of the reason you gave this answer, it would have been far more interesting to read why you think the crash of the "AAA industry" is impending, or maybe other examples of industries outside of videogames working like this? I mean, maybe this is anecdoteal, but no one in this thread has really said much about supporting indie devs and you clearly have more you could say on the topic. Maybe I'm grasping here, but had you have not been so quick to say sales, you probably could have made an interesting case about something.

But this:

Also quit it with this corny "silencing" shit. I'm responding to your post on a public FORUM where the whole purpose is to have discussions with people who may or may not have differing opinions (WHICH I DON'T). You don't see my ass calling the staff and going "mods! mods! I don't agree with this, get it away!" Calm down and respond when you ain't whistling by the ears.

Now, I'm gonna get a little heated here because what the actual fuck are you talking about? I'm in this thread responding to people and arguing my case. If I disagree with someone, I'm arguing my counter. I'm not resorting to baseless name calling (mostly) and I'm not calling for any mods like attack dogs. What you're saying is just a million miles away from what's actually been said, and I just have no idea what you think is going on here? You said something I felt was reductive to the discussion, so i argued why I think it's reductive

 

[Graves Ruinwalker]

I gave up tripple AAA gaming a long time ago since 2016 . The high prices. of those just underlines my decisions clearly .

Not only was the watering down of the gameplay from different genres and its rather formulaic designs a chore to play for me , but i got a huge backlog already that spans from older consoles i own later to emulators with games that i maybe wont never get because of their high prices used alone but the high curiosity i still have for them , not to mention i dont speak or read japanese .

Those older games need the love badly. Underrated treasures that are forgotten or misjudged which should be played again for what those actually are and not hiw they were sometimes falsely advertised .

 

[Dany28]

I think we are slowly getting back to Dmark prices here in Germany. Back then, the prices for games were already very high but we also had a bigger income. When the Euro came everything became more expensive and our salary became less and less and now it's that time again.

 

[MrChester]

I think we are slowly getting back to Dmark prices here in Germany. Back then, the prices for games were already very high but we also had a bigger income. When the Euro came everything became more expensive and our salary became less and less and now it's that time again.

This is legitimately fascinating - I've never considered how the change in currency changes pricing like that. Would you say games were more or less affordable at the end of the dmark's life, compared to now?

 

[moonbits]

The video games have become a luxury to play

this has always been the case, snes games could cost up to $80.
That would be $150 today.

This hobby has always been and will forever be an expensive luxury.

 

[Dany28]

This is legitimately fascinating - I've never considered how the change in currency changes pricing like that. Would you say games were more or less affordable at the end of the dmark's life, compared to now?

Back then everything was more expensive but we also had more money available but now with the Euro everything is just as expensive but we don't have more money available that makes everything more difficult.

 

[Zeo]

Meanwhile, here i am waiting for Steam, GoG or Epic to give some free games and be happy with them

The prices of videogames hasnt really changed that much compared to back then, what now days are just some MB of size with games you can download and play even with your phone where expesive as hell at release

And this isnt just a problem with videogames, but any product ever. Sure, some decide to go for a big sales to not loose to competition (or worse, let the product waste) but in the end all of them are expensive

It depends of how ones need the product, and videogames got the low priority against everything else

 

[Adrastia]

I only buy used or on sale. I also take advantage of any free games that are available. Nintendo should be ashamed never putting its games on any good sale.

 

[Lena CE]

I just can't stand this whale culture

I hate capitalism too man

 

[Spyrone]

Yeah, even if it's a game I might like I don't buy them new. I do not have the money to spend on a single new "AAA" game (especially when I can get half a dozen indie games I'll likely enjoy more for the same price) haven't bought any for years. Literally the newest AAA game I bought when it was new was DOOM Eternal, and that was only because it dropped to $40 roughly thanks to a Steam sale. I think that's a reasonable price for a new game, and of course most them cost nearly $70 now. The newest AAA game I own is Cyberpunk 2077, and I waited years for the glitches to be ironed out and it to finally drop to a price I consider reasonable (IIRC, I bought it for $35 this past July). The way it's going there is not a good enough reason to pay $70 for a single video game, especially when two-thirds of my income goes to rent and I still have to buy groceries and pay bills. Near as far as I can tell most people buy them for novelty purposes. Makes me think of a Joy Division song.

 

[DrunkGecko]

Im very lucky to not care about most modern games. Because the pricing is indeed crazy. I have my emulators always on hand

 

[DjQuick2008]

I'll buy sonic crossworlds on a sale. Got car x street for less than £7 on monday for the ps5.

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Im very lucky to not care about most modern games. Because the pricing is indeed crazy. I have my emulators always on hand

Same ive got a gaming build thats due an update. I can play arcade games without wifi all day long.

 

[Lee__Kanker]

I just want to complain and it's mostly just going to be vitriolic, anecdotal, and not very coherent...

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Some dipshit is gonna pre order this game, digital deluxe (don't wanna miss out after all), nearly 1 ton price tag. They're gonna casually play it for about 8 hours, fall off of it, tell everyone they know it's their game of the year, and never touch it again. People like this are the reason I can't buy new games. This is a retarded amount of money to pay for a game you don't even know the quality of (cause it's not even out) - this is a scam and it just keeps happening.

Resident Evil Village was an absolute mid-fest. Completely average game that got blown out of proportion by these fucking whale ass videogame tourists. Resident Evil 2/3/4 remake - same fucking deal only now with a little bit of incentive for new players to find out what made the older games so special (which they won't even fucking do - if you wanna experience the originals you could just... experience the originals directly?). Totally mediocre games that only need to be good enough to retain the first wave of buyers who are naturally gonna be more charitable because they just spent a day's wages on this shit

£80 for a Silent Hill game?? Silent FUCKING Hill. There might be a lot of lineage but this isn't a popular franchise by any means, yet apparently all you need to do is throw a dispicable price tag on it, and splurge on a bit of marketing and suddenly whales start washing up on shore

I just can't stand this whale culture and this constant need to make or spend money. I fucking love videogames - genuinely when I'm not having a meltdown I consider this shit one of the purest forms of art - but when you put a £70 price tag on it you make me realise this is just a bunch of cruddy children's games designed to make money

Konami, Capcom, and any other suit-wearing, nostalgia gouging, anti-social cretins that want to hold for ransome the popular culture that THEY HAVE CULTURED - bite a brick, shove a firework up your ass, and jump off a cliff, you money hungry losers

My favorite thread opener on the site so far

I wanna add that this bullshit is also part of the reason big budget games all feel the exact same

Same photorealistic look, same hollywood/netflix acting and cutscene direction (just compare the feel of silent hill 2 with the shitty remake), same god forsaken controls where everything is a slightly more heavy feeling The Last of Us, and EVERYTHING HAS TO BE LONG AS SHIT and braindead-broof, with ui markers and yellow paint up the ass in case the player ever tries to think for himself.

They're very passive too, they feel more like an interactive tv show, a lot arent made with replayability in mind, no wonder many people just rent them and never touch em again.

You cant risk anyone ever getting lost or not finishing the game, or not liking a new and unfamiliar game mechanic, or being offended by an edgy story, or struggling to learn the controls or with the difficulty; it costed more than three blockbuster movies put together!

Resident evil 2 would never be made today, you can finish it in 4-6 hours! A game HAS to be over 10, all to justify costing this much I guess; even if that's way too long for most horror.

I can't understanf or the life of me how every youtube comment/tuber looks at an old game and goes "Remake when?!"

You take all these games that looked, played and felt distinct from one another, you see them All getting turned into the same thing over and over, and you call it progress??

 

[kamille]

Most game developer's do not deserve any money for their work. I'd never pay a person a single euro for making corporate mandated games. The age of triple a games is over.