Mega Man Megathread

[Tonberry]

I know you may not believe me, but I'm genuinely calm. Just because I'm straightforward with my words and opinions doesn't mean I'm angry.

Anyway, I actually really like MM11's art style. It modernizes character designs without taking away the simpleness that made them so iconic. My second biggest grievance with Bass' absence in the game, after the fact itself, is that we'll likely never see the official MM11-style rendition of him.

Of course I believe you, you know I love you man but sometimes it just comes off as shutting others down especially in this thread. Sorry if it looked like I was picking a fight out of nowhere, it was just an observation.

I agree with the MM11 artstyle. It’s clean and slick, the thing that makes me not enjoy it so much are those Viewtiful Joe powers. It interferes with the jump-n-shoot too much for me.
Oh and Megaman sounding like a thirty year old man lol

 

[fake-kun]

I agree with the MM11 artstyle. It’s clean and slick, the thing that makes me not enjoy it so much are those Viewtiful Joe powers. It interferes with the jump-n-shoot too much for me.
Oh and Megaman sounding like a thirty year old man lol

Personally, after MM9 and MM10 being pseudo-retro retreads, MM11 bringing something new to the table was a breath of fresh air.

I do agree about the voice, though.

 

[Tonberry]

Personally, after MM9 and MM10 being pseudo-retro retreads, MM11 bringing something new to the table was a breath of fresh air.

I do agree about the voice, though.

Yeah that’s fair.
I admit I haven’t really taken the time to learn it or whatever since I didn’t really like it from the start, so it’s mostly felt cumbersome and spammy since I probably never got the proper hang of it. I guess I prefer it simple lol

 

[_-_AceDragon_-_]

No, it's because X3 and onwards are mid-to-trash. Zero being playable is a coincidence.

X4 or X5 are mid? Are you joking or just have poor taste?

 

[χKai]

X4 or X5 are mid? Are you joking or just have poor taste?

I'd argue that the story for X4 is mid more than the actual gameplay, but X5 has it beat in mediocrity in every way. The one thing it has going for it is the added parts system, and even that gets ruined by the fact you can't get every part in a single playthrough.

 

[fake-kun]

X4 or X5 are mid? Are you joking or just have poor taste?

 

[job32]

They are both artificial humans, they’re both stand-ins for sons, they both want to have real human emotions, hell they both join the circus and get treated like shit. It’s the literal first Astro Boy comic.

Why are you always so seemingly angry and confrontational when people want to talk about Megaman stuff that’s not part of your exact frame of reference? Relax.

It's basically the wet dream of the mad controllers at the top to create "Life" from unnatural means. That way they feel they can appear to equal the Ancient One. Frankenstein, Pinocchio, Wall-E, etc... Hence we have the hope to merge machine with man because machine alone can't become conscious.

 

[_-_AceDragon_-_]

I'd argue that the story for X4 is mid more than the actual gameplay, but X5 has it beat in mediocrity in every way. The one thing it has going for it is the added parts system, and even that gets ruined by the fact you can't get every part in a single playthrough.

Agreed but for games like this I actually expect gameplay to surpass story. X4 has a simple but solid premise and is oozing style.

 

[χKai]

Agreed but for games like this I actually expect gameplay to surpass story. X4 has a simple but solid premise and is oozing style.

Plus it had a killer soundtrack. Nothing in Megaman X5 comes close.

And if you ask me..
The song during the X vs Zero fight sucks in comparison to the one in X2.

 

[JG5009]

Plus it had a killer soundtrack. Nothing in Megaman X5 comes close.

And if you ask me..
The song during the X vs Zero fight sucks in comparison to the one in X2.

I'd argue that both intro stage themes are just cheff kiss, that's the only part I genuinely like about X5.

 

[KaiserMk7]

How would we make X6 "better"?

 

[JG5009]

How would we make X6 "better"?

By burning it to the ground and rebuilding it from scratch ofc

In all seriousness, I feel that the level design is just bs after bs, most ideas in each level could be polished more or just removed like the giant_crusher.jpg, and definitely getting rid of half of the nightmare enemies or just giving them less HP, enough that they could be destroyed with a single swing in the air from the z-saber, this really bothers me a lot.

 

[KaiserMk7]

By burning it to the ground and rebuilding it from scratch ofc

In all seriousness, I feel that the level design is just bs after bs, most ideas in each level could be polished more or just removed like the giant_crusher.jpg, and definitely getting rid of half of the nightmare enemies or just giving them less HP, enough that they could be destroyed with a single swing in the air from the z-saber, this really bothers me a lot.

For one, I'd like to propose a second, endgame Zero Nightmare fight armed with the full set of boss weapons and a few unfair advantages balanced by the other playable hunter joining you in battle.
Properly polish that one boss that everyone says sucks.
Definitely redesign the levels and nightmare enemies a bit.
Go with respawns-if-you-leave or even Jet Force Gemini style rescue system instead of what we have now.
Anything else at all for a boss theme.

 

[JG5009]

I feel that the level design is just bs after bs

Like, if there was a rulebook on how level design should be, X6 would break every single rule ever, I'm not even sure how to begin...

Here's some changes:
-Amazon Area: Pretty fine as is, just make the green insects have less HP and regenerate more slowly and give Yammark some aggressive and fast movement just the way dragonflies actually are.
-Central Museum: No random sub-areas and no flying rocks everywhere, it should be completely redesigned imo and the boss scrapped.
-North Pole: Make the walls climbable and the rocks destructible, avalanches should be quicker, remove the ice blocks and change them for something else, give Wolfang a whole new sprite with better animations, he looks ugly as is.
-Inami Temple: Pretty decent, maybe if the rain didn't remove as much visibility, the boss should be less of a HP sponge with no way to dodge it.
-Recycle Lab: Just redesign it altogether, I won't bother...
-Magma Area: Scrap it entirely and give Heatnix a better setting than a cave, it should be more majestic, any ideas here? (Also, a better sprite)
Laser Institute: Make the lasers to not be damaging, also needs a redesign, Sheldon's fight is pretty good but he could have another resprite as well.
-Weapon Center: They clearly were onto something with this one, or else Ilumina wouldn't be the only thing in a background that they bothered spriting by hand with dedication and having such awesome piece of music, this needs a complete rework and Mijinion should be thrown outside of this realm, ugliest sprite in the whole series BY FAR.

I just gave up on half of them, Gate's lab can burn beyond hell i don't care anymore...

 

[KaiserMk7]

Like, if there was a rulebook on how level design should be, X6 would break every single rule ever, I'm not even sure how to begin...

Here's some changes:
-Amazon Area: Pretty fine as is, just make the green insects have less HP and regenerate more slowly and give Yammark some aggressive and fast movement just the way dragonflies actually are.
-Central Museum: No random sub-areas and no flying rocks everywhere, it should be completely redesigned imo and the boss scrapped.
-North Pole: Make the walls climbable and the rocks destructible, avalanches should be quicker, remove the ice blocks and change them for something else, give Wolfang a whole new sprite with better animations, he looks ugly as is.
-Inami Temple: Pretty decent, maybe if the rain didn't remove as much visibility, the boss should be less of a HP sponge with no way to dodge it.
-Recycle Lab: Just redesign it altogether, I won't bother...
-Magma Area: Scrap it entirely and give Heatnix a better setting than a cave, it should be more majestic, any ideas here? (Also, a better sprite)
Laser Institute: Make the lasers to not be damaging, also needs a redesign, Sheldon's fight is pretty good but he could have another resprite as well.
-Weapon Center: They clearly were onto something with this one, or else Ilumina wouldn't be the only thing in a background that they bothered spriting by hand with dedication and having such awesome piece of music, this needs a complete rework and Mijinion should be thrown outside of this realm, ugliest sprite in the whole series BY FAR.

I just gave up on half of them, Gate's lab can burn beyond hell i don't care anymore...

One thing that really bothered me, if memory serves, was that you could reach the teleporter to an alternate boss room route in one of the levels without having the necessary equipment to cross the pits to reach that boss room.
And I think I liked the Museum better than Cyber Peacock's stage.

 

[JG5009]

One thing that really bothered me, if memory serves, was that you could reach the teleporter to an alternate boss room route in one of the levels without having the necessary equipment to cross the pits to reach that boss room.
And I think I liked the Museum better than Cyber Peacock's stage.

X4's Cyber Space rewards skill and careful movement to obtain the items, Central Museum is just chaos, if you want to complete one of the armors you can't do nothing about what area you get and just pray that you get the one with the item you want, if you add a thousand rock pngs flying around and another thousand nightmare goons, It's difficult to like for most.

 

[Dyne]

How would we make X6 "better"?

Like this:
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4035/

 

[KaiserMk7]

X4's Cyber Space rewards skill and careful movement to obtain the items, Central Museum is just chaos, if you want to complete one of the armors you can't do nothing about what area you get and just pray that you get the one with the item you want, if you add a thousand rock pngs flying around and another thousand nightmare goons, It's difficult to like for most.

I mean I haven't experienced it in years and I've only ever played the level once per playthrough. I've never finished so much as the basic set of bosses in 6.

 

[JG5009]

I mean I haven't experienced it in years and I've only ever played the level once per playthrough. I've never finished so much as the basic set of bosses in 6.

I did the 100% just as any other X game, it's so painful but also fun at the same time, I do get why some people just like this absolute nonsensical chaos, X6 is both broken against the player and to it's favor since the skills and parts are so comically busted, at least it's not boring like half of X5 levels where the only thing to do is wait until something scripted happens.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

I'd argue that the story for X4 is mid more than the actual gameplay, but X5 has it beat in mediocrity in every way. The one thing it has going for it is the added parts system, and even that gets ruined by the fact you can't get every part in a single playthrough.

To be honest the story in a MM game isn't something I really check.

To me it's mostly about a blue robot shooting at things.