Man the fighting game scene is falling apart.

it's a little more than that. Fighting games are inherently community driven. Controversial changes split the community, having an effect of things outside the game itself. With single player games it much easier to just ignore the new entries you don't like.
it doesnt sound good for a community to stagnate, there is also the difference between issues in the community as a whole vs a individual having issues with changes, it would be really weird for just every single fighting game to be having problems at once
 
it doesnt sound good for a community to stagnate, there is also the difference between issues in the community as a whole vs a individual having issues with changes, it would be really weird for just every single fighting game to be having problems at once
People have been playing stuff like 3rd Strike and Melee for like 25 years, community develops new strategies and tech, top players come and go, new competitive storylines form. The game stays the same but the way people play it is constantly adapting and changing. The community itself does a good enough job at preventing stagnation. Now new fighting games shouldn't all be made the same as the old, but they should at least being aiming to appeal to their existing audience. Strive got lucky and found a new audience that was willing to support it.

Every fighting game isn't having problems all that once, it's greatly over exaggerated. the only game that's truly in trouble right now is Tekken, but I have a feeling they'll recover eventually.
 
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everyone i knows who actually plays Strive are people who have been playing GG for a long time, so maybe i just dont see or understand who or what is the supposed problem
 
I used to love Street Fighter 2 until Bowery Bugs took all my quarters and threatened to beat me up
 
but what split the community?
oh, the major changes to gameplay. I could go into detail but the long and short of it is everything is much more limiting in Strive compared to the previous games. Personally I find the game to feel very sluggish, the combo routes too basic and defensive options weaker like the change to just defend.
 
but what split the community?
The newcomers literally pushed away the old players despite the old players being welcoming. That combined with the completely different game feel and gameplay + the Bridget retcon left many old players bitter and feeling replaced. Some even felt back stabbed after being so welcoming.

I hope it is clear and concise now because I will not repeat what I wrote 1 page ago nor will I waste any more time with this. The "guys i know say it is fine" is an anecdotal argument. There is clearly a ton of people who DID have a problem with the game AND the community. No one here is going to spoon feed anyone every step and event that led to this and if it isn't quite clear by this comment alone, I too feel bitter.
 
The newcomers literally pushed away the old players despite the old players being welcoming. That combined with the completely different game feel and gameplay + the Bridget retcon left many old players bitter and feeling replaced. Some even felt back stabbed after being so welcoming.

I hope it is clear and concise now because I will not repeat what I wrote 1 page ago nor will I waste any more time with this. The "guys i know say it is fine" is an anecdotal argument. There is clearly a ton of people who DID have a problem with the game AND the community. No one here is going to spoon feed anyone every step and event that led to this and if it isn't quite clear by this comment alone, I too feel bitter.
i mean it was clear and concise before, i just kinda wanted to see the reasoning stated
 
Thank them. Somebody else should have would have probably beaten you up for your quarters anyway.
Very funny. Phase. I should of hit you with a sock full of quarters a few days ago. JK
 
That combined with the completely different game feel and gameplay + the Bridget retcon left many old players bitter and feeling replaced.
That wasn't a retcon. You can't handle character development and people changing. Most people handled Bridget fine. I know some of the old heads complained, but more than a few took it way too far, or did not have anyone's best interest in mind. Aside from themselves.

The newcomers literally pushed away the old players despite the old players being welcoming. That combined with the completely different game feel and gameplay + the Bridget retcon left many old players bitter and feeling replaced.
Sucks that happened, and I get it, but it still sounds like a small bunch of entitled assholes, and not a large. I can't say you shouldn't feel bitter, but don't take it out on people who are legit having fun, or had nothing to do with any of it in the first place. Once again, most old and new fans I met online or in real life are pretty chill with each other.

everyone i knows who actually plays Strive are people who have been playing GG for a long time, so maybe i just dont see or understand who or what is the supposed problem
See, Imp gets it. Thank you Imp.

Killer Instinct (2013) has the best fighting game music ever! Of all time! More fighting games need dynamic music.

 
That wasn't a retcon. You can't handle character development and people changing. Most people handled Bridget fine. I know some of the old heads complained, but more than a few took it way too far, or did not have anyone's best interest in mind. Aside from themselves.
The whole Bridget thing is a non-issue, but a retcon to be sure. A lot of plot points pre-Xrd have been retconned. Guilty Gear 2 Overture was kind of a soft reboot for the story.
 
A lot of plot points pre-Xrd have been retconned. Guilty Gear 2 Overture was kind of a soft reboot for the story.
Okay, then apparently those other retcons didn't bother anyone else as far as most people know or knew. Why cry and bitch about it now, when they didn't even bother back then.
 
Okay, then apparently those other retcons didn't bother anyone else as far as most people know or knew. Why cry and bitch about it now, when they didn't even bother back then.
Brother, almost every single time I would go on Twitter a few years ago Bridget would be trending. It became so big it escaped the game itself. I bet there are a lot of people who's only exposure to Guilty Gear was through the Bridget drama.
Would also like to add that I still frequently look at Japanese Twitter, and they STILL refer to Bridget as an 男の娘。Make of that what you will.
 
Brother, almost every single time I would go on Twitter a few years ago Bridget would be trending. It became so big it escaped the game itself. I bet there are a lot of people who's only exposure to Guilty Gear was through the Bridget drama.
It's Twitter, not the best for "engagement" and to expect any reasonable discussion is a fool's errand and only fit for the king of foolish fools mindlessly being fools to each other.
they STILL refer to Bridget as an 男の娘。Make of that what you will.
So? I checked and translation and I don't what you exactly want to me to make of it. Unless that term is meant as an insult to Bridget, but I doubt it. Feel free to correct me though. Regardless, it's twitter. I don't give a fuck, and places like that don't represent an entire population nor group. Fuck Twitter and the big bitch who owns it.
 
2D fighters peaked with Street Fighter 4. How many millions of dollars in Arcade Sticks did that game sell? It single handedly made Mad Catz over a hundred million dollars just with their licensed sticks. And bought them nearly an additional decade.
 
2D fighters peaked with Street Fighter 4. How many millions of dollars in Arcade Sticks did that game sell? It single handedly made Mad Catz over a hundred million dollars just with their licensed sticks. And bought them nearly an additional decade.
Get outta here with that Mad Katz stuff. They were always the shitty controller you gave your little brother or friend to use.
 
Get outta here with that Mad Katz stuff. They were always the shitty controller you gave your little brother or friend to use.
You're not wrong, but they did get better pretty much around 7th generation and SFIV era. It sucks after SFV, Mad Catz went out of business in 2017. They had actually turned their reputation around, but it was too late.

BTW, we only bought a Mad Catz controller once back in the PS1 days, and we already had two dual shock controllers. We took the Mad Catz and traded it in for a game at Funcoland back in the day.
 
Get outta here with that Mad Katz stuff. They were always the shitty controller you gave your little brother or friend to use.
their controllers where shit, but they made a godlike arcade stick. The Madcatz TE2 is still considered one of the best around. That was really the only loss once they shut down.
 
their controllers where shit, but they made a godlike arcade stick. The Madcatz TE2 is still considered one of the best around. That was really the only loss once they shut down.
Thats cool I guess, but the real holy grail of controllers was Steel Batallion on the OG XBOX

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Get outta here with that Mad Katz stuff. They were always the shitty controller you gave your little brother or friend to use.
Not everything Mad Catz made is the same as the controllers they made for N64 and PlayStation. There was a window where if you wanted a great stick on a budget that's where you went. And you didn't suffer for it.
Sure if you wanted a good stick on a budget during the PlayStation era you went to Ascii and made sure you got one made in Japan.
 
Not everything Mad Catz made is the same as the controllers they made for N64 and PlayStation. There was a window where if you wanted a great stick on a budget that's where you went. And you didn't suffer for it.
Sure if you wanted a good stick on a budget during the PlayStation era you went to Ascii and made sure you got one made in Japan.
If you are talking about like PS1 controllers, they were like $5 back in the day, nothing was better than swinging that thing around by the cable and blasting it into oblivion on some hard surface. Seeing the
little triangle and square buttons go flying everywhere was a bonus. Best part was you could got to
your local Electronics Boutique/ Software Etc. and get a new one for $5. Only the poor kids had the
shitty Mad Katz.
 
Only the poor kids had the
shitty Mad Katz.
Yeeeahhhh...I've seen more than a few rich kids, or kids whom were better off financially compared to poor kids, but $10-$15 Mad Catz controllers more than a few times.
 

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