KINGDOM HEARTS 4 Teaser!!

[4C374552A1CA2638]

You're probably doing the best choice but it's hard when this is a RPG with cutscenes you go through.

At least Zelda games are trying to be self contained stories without too many cutscenes (most of the time).

There's always the skip button. But seriously, I do care about the story in games to an extent. I'm easy enough to please! And if I'm not pleased, then I hope the gameplay is good enough to keep me going. It's really hard to believe I used to be a 'story first' kind of player way back when.

My wish is to see more Final Fantasy and Squaresoft related worlds but I feel we'll never see a Dragon Quest themed one ever in this series...

Dipping into more of the Square and Enix IPs would be beyond cool, but that depends on how tightly they want to stick to "this is Disney + Final Fantasy" specifically. I know they had a surprise reference to Einhänder of all things in KH3, so they're not afraid of the idea, but an entire world probably will never happen.

Give me the Eternal Sphere Keyblade, cowards.

 

[SoThankful]

I still have to dive more into KH, but this looks really cool and makes me want to play the other games. Maybe even in Japanese, if there are undub versions available.

 

[extermist]

There's always the skip button. But seriously, I do care about the story in games to an extent. I'm easy enough to please! And if I'm not pleased, then I hope the gameplay is good enough to keep me going. It's really hard to believe I used to be a 'story first' kind of player way back when.


Dipping into more of the Square and Enix IPs would be beyond cool, but that depends on how tightly they want to stick to "this is Disney + Final Fantasy" specifically. I know they had a surprise reference to Einhänder of all things in KH3, so they're not afraid of the idea, but an entire world probably will never happen.

Give me the Eternal Sphere Keyblade, cowards.

The original concept wasn't even Disney + Final Fantasy as much as it was Disney + Nomura's characters, originally the first game was supposed to have Aya Brea from Parasite Eve but the staff wanted Aerith so Nomura went with that character instead and Rikku from FFX was originally meant to have Yuffie's role.

When you consider the concept art and ideas they had for the 1st game, we could have easily had a vastly different series altogether.

 

[Guinea]

Best part of the Direct! Can't wait for KH4.

 

[4C374552A1CA2638]

the first game was supposed to have Aya Brea from Parasite Eve

Man, and what a shame she wasn't in. When I was replaying 358/2 Days recently, I kept seeing her in Roxas' portrait...

When you consider the concept art and ideas they had for the 1st game, we could have easily had a vastly different series altogether.

I remember some of this! Sora was a lionesque humanoid whose Keyblade was more like a chainsaw (without blades?).

It's weird seeing someone's face where it doesn't belong.

Interesting in the picture you posted, the Kingdom Key was there, but Sora still had his original design. Seeing concept art evolve is neat, but it'd be cool to know the timeline of things. When did they decide to change his weapon, when did making Sora into a regular human come about, and so on.

 

[extermist]

Man, and what a shame she wasn't in. When I was replaying 358/2 Days recently, I kept seeing her in Roxas' portrait...

I remember some of this! Sora was a lionesque humanoid whose Keyblade was more like a chainsaw (without blades?).

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It's weird seeing someone's face where it doesn't belong.

Interesting in the picture you posted, the Kingdom Key was there, but Sora still had his original design. Seeing concept art evolve is neat, but it'd be cool to know the timeline of things. When did they decide to change his weapon, when did making Sora into a regular human come about, and so on.

The lion Sora was very early on, the image you posted was presented to Disney by Nomura in the initial proposal, rumor has it that he showed it to the room and everyone was speechless, then he awkwardly juat said "yeah, I thought so too".

The lion design was a carry over because they had just finished working on FF9 at that point, Nomura says in an interview, since they started conceptualizing and writting things in 1999.

The notes and interviews can be read on tcrf.

https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Kingdom_Hearts

Along with the timeline of events.

 

[Tsukishima]

I clocked out of the KH story near the ending of KH3, I just can't bring myself to care about all these dainty spinoffs that don't live up to the epitome of combat that KH2 created and the hole it left never being filled to this day.

I heard KH3 was apparently the end of a saga, so I might be more approachable to the story in this one if it feels comfortable enough.

Like Kamako and others have said, the feeling of losing control in the middle of combat that started with KH3 and seems to continue with this game is something I'm very iffy towards. The more responsive and less 'cutscene moves' the action-RPG has, the more invested I am and I'm more encouraged to do better because I love doing critical thinking during a combo and what have you, especially during the more fast paced response tests some bosses asked for in KH2.

I'm aware that it's not originally a Final Fantasy X Disney thing but this is what the series started with. I want that back. It felt like the essence of it.
To once again sing the applauses of KH2 once again, that moment-to-moment gauntlet of all the FF characters joining with Sora to fight against the present evil was some of the most insanely climactic sensation I've ever felt to this day because it was less of a cutscene, and more how they brilliantly controlled it like an orchestra in actual gameplay.

I feel like they just make that stuff happen in cutscenes now rather then ingame, and that's just lame. Why does everything have to be so cinematic and control being removed from you for every special move these days?

 

[pinetreeneedle56]

Speaking as someone who adores Kingdom Hearts; I am going to be very, very cautious of the amount of confidence in a new entry.
KH3 really sapped alot of my enjoyment in the series away.

 

[extermist]

I don't like losing control mid-combat

I glad I'm not alone in this sentiment.

 

[Appiplyer]

I came here to theorizing do you guys have any clue whos that nobody in the top of building or basically the one with too much screen time?

Since by the trailer we know the heartless in this new world wasn't actually a thing but by bringing people from KH universe somehow they manifestated.

 

[Bacon Eater64x]

Nintendo really just went full Thragg and said "He has Me" with the KH4 reveal huh?

 

[extermist]

I came here to theorizing do you guys have any clue whos that nobody in the top of building or basically the one with too much screen time?

Since by the trailer we know the heartless in this new world wasn't actually a thing but by bringing people from KH universe somehow they manifestated.

Not a nobody (creature), supposedly it's the Master of Masters (MoM) the new master mind revealed in the mobile games.
He comes from a time before Xehanrot and possibly predicted and rigged all the events leading up to the present timeline.

People (myself included) suspect that his nobody was DANCE WATER DANCE.

 

[Appiplyer]

Not a nobody (creature), supposedly it's the Master of Masters (MoM) the new master mind revealed in the mobile games.
He comes from a time before Xehanrot and possibly predicted and rigged all the events leading up to the present timeline.

Ngl i haven't played 3 yet so this thing is new to me lol.

People (myself included) suspect that his nobody was DANCE WATER DANCE.

Holy moly

 

[ichigoww]

I've been thinking on release dates and the upcoming big Square Enix releases. After FF7 Revelation they have Dragon Quest XII and Kingdom Hearts 4 and that's it, right? (and maybe something else they haven't announced yet) I guess there's no way to know which one of the two is closer to being "completed"

My current guess is probably 2028 for either one of those, and then maybe 2029-2030 for the other with some remasters and smaller games in between. Maybe KH4 will come out first considering they mentioned they had to restart development on DQXII? Trying to guess a release for KH3 didn't go very well back in the day, but I want to believe the internal situation in Square is more stable this time around, mostly because by looking at the FF7 remakes, they seem more comfortable with their tools unlike when they were messing around with luminous engine back in the day