Hot takes

[AkiraSO4]

this sounds like relationship advice

I was a 100% referring to gaming, trust me

But hey, if it works, it works.

 

[JaguarGod6]

I don't care what people say. Relentless, Reckless Forever album from Children of Bodom is fucking amazing.

 

[Deleted member 884]

Frank Sinatra is the best 21° century singer.

 

[Xdqwerty Xdqwerty]

Malcolm in the middle and el chavo del 8 are the only good sitcoms there are

 

[Lee__Kanker]

I always thought meg was kinda cute, they have to go out of their way to draw her fatter than she looks sometimes!

 

[ATenderLad]

Frank Sinatra is the best 21° century singer.

He was amazing!

But...I...I'm sorry, there's a pedantic thing inside me compelling me to type. He died in 98, he never saw the 21st century!

 

[Graves Ruinwalker]

It's perfectly fine to let go of a series of games or whatever if you feel disappointed or don't feel like giving it any more chances. There's no reason to stick around to a series that keeps making mistakes in hopes of someday expecting it to get better or whatever.

Sometimes it's better to just move on.

Absolutly true .
No game-series can hold on for what they are and what kind of quality they brought to the table forever.
The best games / movies / comics / etc. have an end .

 

[RageBurner]

Absolutly true .
No game-series can hold on for what they are and what kind of quality they brought to the table forever.
The best games / movies / comics / etc. have an end .

Yeah, or at least peaks and valleys when it comes to quality, although where the peaks and valleys actually are can be subjective to an extent.

 

[MasterEn]

Sloppy Joes suck. I don't know why people like Sloppy Joes.

i like sloppy joes, but i'd rather just eat the stuff by itself, not on a hamburger bun. that ruins it in my opinion.

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I thought they died well I'm not into pokemon.

pokemon runs on the "you only die in cutscenes" logic. if it doesn't happen in a cutscene, it don't count.

 

[Graves Ruinwalker]

Yeah, or at least peaks and valleys when it comes to quality, although where the peaks and valleys actually are can be subjective to an extent.

True and i agree . But what happens when the peaks and valleys getting flatter and flatter ?
Those game-series becoming mediocre experiences . And this happens to many game-series lately and even back then .
At the end our subjectivity is the main-point what we prefer from those games and what are our highs and lows in the series determined for what we stand as fans of the franchise .

 

[RageBurner]

True and i agree . But what happens when the peaks and valleys getting flatter and flatter ?
Those game-series becoming mediocre experiences . And this happens to many game-series lately and even back then .
At the end our subjectivity is the main-point what we prefer from those games and what are our highs and lows in the series determined for what we stand as fans of the franchise .

Very well said. I guess the question becomes then "How flat are we ready to accept our peaks become?"

 

[Deleted member 884]

He was amazing!

But...I...I'm sorry, there's a pedantic thing inside me compelling me to type. He died in 98, he never saw the 21st century!

I meant 20, me dumb.

 

[Graves Ruinwalker]

Very well said. I guess the question becomes then "How flat are we ready to accept our peaks become?"

Touche , my friend . Touche .

 

[Xdqwerty Xdqwerty]

Robin Williams should have interpreted that Jurassic Park 1 character that accompanies those 2 kids

 

[ATenderLad]

I meant 20, me dumb.

Nah it's just a typo! I just couldn't resist, jerk that I am. Sorry about that.

 

[RageBurner]

Touche , my friend . Touche .

If you'll humor me with a practical example of my own experience for a minute:

Monster Hunter is my favorite franchise, and it's interesting how those "in", that is, those that play regularly and know the series and those "out", those that look at the series from the outside both tend to complain that the series is becoming stale and far too accommodating to newcomers with each new iteration, haha.

I prefer the classic style, but heck, let people try it, see if they enjoy it. Those that enjoy the core loop will stay, maybe become true fans, those that don't will move on, milk what they can of the newness of the latest entry and then move on to the next big release. Isn't that the same with every game? no harm, no foul.

 

[Graves Ruinwalker]

If you'll humor me with a practical example of my own experience for a minute:

Monster Hunter is my favorite franchise, and it's interesting how those "in", that is, those that play regularly and know the series and those "out", those that look at the series from the outside both tend to complain that the series is becoming stale and far too accommodating to newcomers with each new iteration, haha.

I prefer the classic style, but heck, let people try it, see if they enjoy it. Those that enjoy the core loop will stay, maybe become true fans, those that don't will move on, milk what they can of the newness of the latest entry and then move on to the next big release. Isn't that the same with every game? no harm, no foul.

I completly agree . Nothing to add from my side .

 

[miguk miguk]

i like sloppy joes, but i'd rather just eat the stuff by itself, not on a hamburger bun. that ruins it in my opinion.

Sloppy Joes are to Mexican food what Little Caesars is to real pizza.❉ It's a bastard imitation of something that was designed properly for the same purpose. Burger buns were never made to hold those contents, while tortillas can do it perfectly fine.

❉ I never had a LC pizza that didn't fall apart upon opening the box. And I never had a pizza from an actual good pizza place that did that.

 

[RanmyakuIchi's icon RanmyakuIchi RanmyakuIchi]

May or may not be a hot take, depending on who you ask, but having played them a fair deal at a high level, I'll stand on the hill that classic Mortal Kombat, particularly UMK3, are good fighting games. I hear a fair bit of slander about them these days, but I think a lot of it comes from people that haven't taken the time to really learn the games, as they are very different both gameplay and meta-wise than Capcom and SNK fighters.

I wouldn't fault someone for simply not caring for the gameplay, given how different it is, but I still think they're good games.

 

[MasterEn]

Sloppy Joes are to Mexican food what Little Caesars is to real pizza.❉ It's a bastard imitation of something that was designed properly for the same purpose. Burger buns were never made to hold those contents, while tortillas can do it perfectly fine.

❉ I never had a LC pizza that didn't fall apart upon opening the box. And I never had a pizza from an actual good pizza place that did that.

i've never had little ceasars, so i'll take your word on that.
i don't particularly care what it is copying, it's just something i eat once in a while. not bad, but not great. i give it a B. i usually eat noodles and rice for most of my meals.

 

[RageBurner]

May or may not be a hot take, depending on who you ask, but having played them a fair deal at a high level, I'll stand on the hill that classic Mortal Kombat, particularly UMK3, are good fighting games. I hear a fair bit of slander about them these days, but I think a lot of it comes from people that haven't taken the time to really learn the games, as they are very different both gameplay and meta-wise than Capcom and SNK fighters.

I wouldn't fault someone for simply not caring for the gameplay, given how different it is, but I still think they're good games.

I'll be honest, I never took classic MK seriously enough to even think about it as anything more than a spammy laughfest, but it's cool to see a different perspective. I won't deny my brain is wired much more closely to Capcom and SNK fighting games, and that hasn't changed.

 

[AkiraSO4]

Yeah, or at least peaks and valleys when it comes to quality, although where the peaks and valleys actually are can be subjective to an extent.

Like you said, it's a subjective thing.
There's a bunch of things I'm not super into that many other people are, and vice-versa.

People might say a certain series is doing amazing but you might be absolutely burned out of them you wanna drop out and leave.

So in the end, I'd say what matters is "you". As in, are YOU enjoying it or not. If other people like it, let them like it. But if YOU feel let down, or disappointed, there's no harm in letting it go and enjoying other things.

 

[RageBurner]

So in the end, I'd say what matters is "you". As in, are YOU enjoying it or not.

Exactly. In the end this is the only metric a person can really measure.

 

[AkiraSO4]

May or may not be a hot take, depending on who you ask, but having played them a fair deal at a high level, I'll stand on the hill that classic Mortal Kombat, particularly UMK3, are good fighting games. I hear a fair bit of slander about them these days, but I think a lot of it comes from people that haven't taken the time to really learn the games, as they are very different both gameplay and meta-wise than Capcom and SNK fighters.

I wouldn't fault someone for simply not caring for the gameplay, given how different it is, but I still think they're good games.

It's not often I hear people badmouth classic MK apart from 4, which isn't even that bad actually.
UMK3 is pretty good, so is MK2.
The only truly outdated of the classic ones would be the first one, and that's basically because it's the first attempt and a lot of things aren't there yet.

 

[miguk miguk]

May or may not be a hot take, depending on who you ask, but having played them a fair deal at a high level, I'll stand on the hill that classic Mortal Kombat, particularly UMK3, are good fighting games. I hear a fair bit of slander about them these days, but I think a lot of it comes from people that haven't taken the time to really learn the games, as they are very different both gameplay and meta-wise than Capcom and SNK fighters.

I wouldn't fault someone for simply not caring for the gameplay, given how different it is, but I still think they're good games.

The first 2 games were not bad for their times. Fighting games were still pretty simple and MK offered a similar experience. The only things they got wrong was standardizing the normals to the point that only a few characters had any unique ones. (Though the single player game had a lot of balance issues and cheating, albeit less than later on. That also existed in other fighting games of the time, but MK was always the king of unfair single player mode.)

MK3 is where it fell apart. Gameplay got too complex; you had to memorize too many moves with unique inputs to the point that gameplay was confusing. And certain moves would often just not work; Sheeva looked like she would be OP, but she whiffed 90% of the moves that Goro & Kintaro would never have at that rate. Anything teleportation based either unbalanced the fight, threw you into the opponent's attack, or both. And then there's the roster: Tons of fan favorites thrown out for dull newcomers, and even returning characters felt wrong. (Sub-Zero being turned into discount Henry Rollins and Shang Tsung being a white guy were some weird ones.) And single player got worse: the CPU abused the Run button and combo system (always perfectly done with the best combo for them, but not you) to kill you in seconds.

And you'd think UMK3 would fix everything, but it didn't. Yes, the roster added back in some fan favorites. But old characters weren't rebalanced, and the single player difficulty was actually made even more unfair. Which brings us to the worst thing in the game: Jade. She was the culmination of everything wrong with MK gameplay. Cheater CPU, cheat move to invalidate your moves, and unfair priority on her moves. One match against her, and you were convinced the whole game sucked. I had taken the time and abuse to play through MK3; I refused to complete UMK3.

Other than that, MKT was an interesting novelty, but not worth more than a rental. The games never matched the quality of MK2 again.