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[Guinea]

you want it to LOOK like one
or PLAY like one

Both. To this day people still hold up OoT as what a video game should be, still praise it for what it is, still say it's aged like fine wine, still just loves it to pieces. If Nintendo made another N64 Zelda it's all people would be talking about and hyped for up until release.

 

[Franz_Thieppel]

Oh that reminds me on the subject of Zelda....

Twilight Princess is imo one of the worst 3D Zeldas I ever played.

Unfortunately I have to agree.

I fell for it like everyone else when it came out because we were so starved after Wind Waker for something like Ocarina... I was sure I was gonna replay it 100 times.
And then when it came time to replay it it's like a veil was lifted: "How come it's so boring? Was it always like this?"

Turns out only the presentation was pretty good, and the dungeons (which is no wonder because it's supposedly a bunch of designs they had left over from the previous game they didn't have time to put in) but the combat was probably the most boring in the whole Zelda series. Which is odd because it's usually not the strongest point in any Zelda but here it's so passive and easy it actually stands out (even with all the extra moves they teach you that you never ever need).

 

[JellyjamLu]

Unfortunately I have to agree.

I fell for it like everyone else when it came out because we were so starved after Wind Waker for something like Ocarina... I was sure I was gonna replay it 100 times.
And then when it came time to replay it it's like a veil was lifted: "How come it's so boring? Was it always like this?"

Turns out only the presentation was pretty good, and the dungeons (which is no wonder because it's supposedly a bunch of designs they had left over from the previous game they didn't have time to put in) but the combat was probably the most boring in the whole Zelda series. Which is odd because it's usually not the strongest point in any Zelda but here it's so passive and easy it actually stands out (even with all the extra moves they teach you that you never ever need).

Yes yes yes! Well said, you hit the nail exactly on the head as to why with this statement.

It's weird because the elements are there, more serious tone, visual presentation, the build up prior to release, hype train & trailers etc & like you said there is something about it that feels boring to play at times, even the dungeon design (which admittedly does have some small moments here and there) are just not quite reaching the potential and drag, part of the problem is, i THINK it's try-harding OOT all over the place as well & when it does, i should just... you know be playing OOT. It just feels like a black sheep and I DON'T want to say that, look how cool this is:

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Oh that reminds me on the subject of Zelda....

Twilight Princess is imo one of the worst 3D Zeldas I ever played.

It has a massive pacing issue I agree.

Why would you need the story to last 5 hours before finally tackling the first dungeon when in OoT and WW you tackled one by the first?

 

[Xdqwerty Xdqwerty]

If something is considered bad but no one complains when it happens then it means its not bad