HDMI adapter vs Retrotink Question

[Nidstang]

I'm looking for a solution to play PS2 and Gamecube on a modern TV, buying as a birthday gift. So opinions on:

PS2 - Retrotink 2X Pro w/ component cables vs Hyperkin PS2/PS1 HDMI adapter

Gamecube - Retrotink 2X Pro w/ component cables vs Carby

Or if there's another recommended solution. This person is not overly picky about scanlines and things like that. Just looking for something that will look good on modern displays with no/minimal input lag.
Thanks!

 

[Baldwookiee]

https://electron-shepherd.com/ Electron Pulse for PS2 and carby for gamecube

 

[TruxtonTatsujin]

For PS2:
- The hyperkin adapter is bad
- The 2X pro is a great device but doesn't handle interlaced signals the best. It uses the bob deinterlacing method.
- I like to use the GBS-Control for PS2 because it's the cheapest device that has motion adaptive deinterlacing. The higher end Retrotinks have it but are much more expensive.

idk about Gamecube but I've heard good things about the Carby, but keep in mind that all these direct HDMI adapters don't do any upscaling. 480p looks fine on modern displays but most don't handle 480i well. fyi most PS2 games only run in 480i, a lot of Gamecube games support 480p but not all.

 

[Nidstang]

For PS2:
- The hyperkin adapter is bad
- The 2X pro is a great device but doesn't handle interlaced signals the best. It uses the bob deinterlacing method.
- I like to use the GBS-Control for PS2 because it's the cheapest device that has motion adaptive deinterlacing. The higher end Retrotinks have it but are much more expensive.

idk about Gamecube but I've heard good things about the Carby, but keep in mind that all these direct HDMI adapters don't do any upscaling. 480p looks fine on modern displays but most don't handle 480i well. fyi most PS2 games only run in 480i, a lot of Gamecube games support 480p but not all.

Would you say the 2X Pro is BAD for PS2? Or just that there's better options?

 

[TruxtonTatsujin]

Would you say the 2X Pro is BAD for PS2? Or just that there's better options?

It's not bad, it was actually what I was using before getting the GBS-Control. It's just that bob deinterlacing causes this slight "jitter" effect that bothers some people. The image ever so slightly bobs up and down.

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[Nidstang]

It's not bad, it was actually what I was using before getting the GBS-Control. It's just that bob deinterlacing causes this slight "jitter" effect that bothers some people. The image ever so slightly bobs up and down.

Got it.
Is the GBS-Control fairly plug and play? I'm buying for my brother and he's not really much of a tinkerer when it comes to visual settings and things. So I'm looking for things fairly plug and play, which is why I thought the Carby would be good (there isn't really anything like that for PS2), and if he wanted he could get himself like a MClassic down the line if he wanted... but I wasn't sure about PS2, and the 2X Pro seemed like an affordable starter scarler. But now I'm second guessing that.

 

[TruxtonTatsujin]

Got it.
Is the GBS-Control fairly plug and play? I'm buying for my brother and he's not really much of a tinkerer when it comes to visual settings and things. So I'm looking for things fairly plug and play, which is why I thought the Carby would be good (there isn't really anything like that for PS2), and if he wanted he could get himself like a MClassic down the line if he wanted... but I wasn't sure about PS2, and the 2X Pro seemed like an affordable starter scarler. But now I'm second guessing that.

GBS-Control is a little dui, so for someone who doesn't like to tinker I'd say Retrotink 2x pro is the better option. It's much more plug and play. Motion adaptive does look nicer than bob but it's not like the difference in quality is huge.

 

[Nidstang]

GBS-Control is a little dui, so for someone who doesn't like to tinker I'd say Retrotink 2x pro is the better option. It's much more plug and play. Motion adaptive does look nicer than bob but it's not like the difference in quality is huge.

Cool. I appreciate the insight!

 

[TruxtonTatsujin]

https://electron-shepherd.com/ Electron Pulse for PS2 and carby for gamecube

Electron Shepherd's stuff is good, I actually just ordered they're OG Xbox adapter not to long ago.
But like I said before they don't do any upscaling themselves so for something like the PS2 it's not a great option.

 

[Stare best girl]

For PS2:
- The hyperkin adapter is bad
- The 2X pro is a great device but doesn't handle interlaced signals the best. It uses the bob deinterlacing method.
- I like to use the GBS-Control for PS2 because it's the cheapest device that has motion adaptive deinterlacing. The higher end Retrotinks have it but are much more expensive.

idk about Gamecube but I've heard good things about the Carby, but keep in mind that all these direct HDMI adapters don't do any upscaling. 480p looks fine on modern displays but most don't handle 480i well. fyi most PS2 games only run in 480i, a lot of Gamecube games support 480p but not all.

I heard that most of Gamecube games that doesn't support 480p natively, can be forced to 480p with Swiss just like Nintendont's Force Progressive

 

[ThatOneLum ThatOneLum]

Personally I've got a lot of milage out of just using Component cables on my modern TV with my PS2. That said, It's an older TV so it's possible more modern ones don't support component directly.

If that's the case, I@ve heard that the Hyerpkin Cables/adapter boxes suck ass. If you want a really upscaled solution, RetroTink or an OSSC (Open-Source Scan Converter) are you best ways to go.

 

[nobitakun]

Cant you give as a gift a CRT TV? I don't think they cost much on second hand markets.

If the person is not demanding, the adapter could do the job I suppose.

 

[LouieBee]

I'm looking for a solution to play PS2 and Gamecube on a modern TV, buying as a birthday gift. So opinions on:

PS2 - Retrotink 2X Pro w/ component cables vs Hyperkin PS2/PS1 HDMI adapter

Gamecube - Retrotink 2X Pro w/ component cables vs Carby

Or if there's another recommended solution. This person is not overly picky about scanlines and things like that. Just looking for something that will look good on modern displays with no/minimal input lag.
Thanks!

If you want a cheaper solution, I would advise buying a Component Cable and then hooking it up to a GBS-Control.

Places like Aliexpress sell them by the dozen, they will do motion adaptive deinterlacing for your 480i games and handle progressive resolutions, such as 240p and 480p, like a champ.

You don't need to watch the whole video but my gameplay clip here should you some idea as to what to expect from it in action

 

[PhrawzT]

I have the Hyperkin PS2 HDMI cable and it works, but I have noticed that it occasionally cuts out giving me a black screen for a second before fixing itself.

 

[NeonKnights]

For the PS2 I'd recommend the GBSC with the component cables.
Not sure about the GameCube though as I just use my Picoboot modded DOL-001
with an S-Video cable plugged directly into my early 2000s LCD TV and it works great, I do the same for my N64. Just don't make the mistake I did and get the Pound cable HDMI converter. It's horrible for the PS2. The picture is blurry and the aspect ratio was all wrong if I remember correctly. It worked pretty well for the PS1 though.