Happy 20th Birthday to the game that killed the Sonic franchise….

[DJPlace]

Oh, my god. It's a User.
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THIS USER.
THIS USER IS ALSO THE SONIC UNLEASHED BASHER.

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There's a good reason why "Or maybe it weren't a banan'r. I-It could be- ONE OF NATURE'S MYSTERIES!!!!!" works and why the above didn't and became mocked via internet memes.

the only 3 things i'm bashing are CHIP chracter the new DR charcter and you have 100% the game to unlock all the new area's and stuff like that. other wise it's fine.

 

[Pudendum]

I remember liking the cool guitars, I guess it did one thing well!

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Also the doctor you save talks about Pickles all the fucking time what is this SONIC THE FOODHOG.

That's his gimmick but you can skip the text if you want.

Also I gave up on the game finding out you have to 100% it to unlock the final stage.

You don't need to 100% the game to finish it, who told you that?

Also sonic games that make you get all the Chaos Emeralds just to unlock the final stages suck ass.

Sonic 3&K had a true last boss only available after getting them all, it's also part of the story of the Adventure games, Heroes, Generations and other games. What's the issue since it's something you get in the main story automatically in Unleashed?

"Remember the chaos emeralds? Those mythical gems that are super special and rare? Yeah here's one in the middle of the city so the tutorial makes sense".

I could agree about that one but then again in Sonic Adventure you had several of them at the end of various stages, they appear wherever they want (and could be the Black Arms collecting them in stages as well).

 

[DJPlace]

odd i thought this game had issues but i guess not.... i thought you had to 100% everything to unlock new area's... maybe i'll replay this on PS3 some time....

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Odd I thought this game had issues but i guess not... I thought you had to 100% everything to unlock new area's... maybe I'll replay this on PS3 some time....

No idea if the PS3 version is that different but the PC decompilation is good.

On the other hand maybe you probably were thinking about the medals.

Now I kinda agree that having to get medals and that pseudo-RPG element with the experience and stats to raise weren't the best ideas to put into it.

The Wii/PS2 version having the tablets to access to the next level (with just one or two NPCs which are easily accessed) and how the "leveling" was just a tiered moveset instead of collecting those octahedrons and filling several separate bars was a much better.


One thing I kinda wish we got games with an alternate level end with paths like Mario games but maybe that'd be harder to implement.

 

[iamthemilkman]

Sonic Superstars is my favorite Sonic game that's hated on. Other than the bullshit boss fights, the game's quite good.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Sonic Superstars is my favorite Sonic game that's hated on. Other than the bullshit boss fights, the game's quite good.

If Sonic Mania didn't come before I could've agreed.

On the other hand the bosses were really tedious which worsened the experience.

 

[iamthemilkman]

If Sonic Mania didn't come before I could've agreed.

On the other hand the bosses were really tedious which worsened the experience.

You know, even though I love Mania, I've always seen it more like a fan project than an official project since it wasn't made in-house at Sega (or like, in the case of Sonic Superstars, OG Sonic devs). Great game, though. The most underrated 2D Sonic ever is Pocket Adventure. I can't believed that hasn't gotten a re-release. It's a real shame. It should've been in one of those Neo Geo Pocket Collections released on Switch.

 

[ThatOneLum ThatOneLum]

I own Superstar but haven't got around to playing it yet. Hell, I've still barely played Racing CrossWorlds yet.

I really need to do some catching up with the franchise at some point soon.

 

[Miles Miles]

Sonic Superstars is my favorite Sonic game that's hated on. Other than the bullshit boss fights, the game's quite good.

The reason it's hated on is because Superstars is nowhere near as good as Mania. Also Superstars base game is double the price of Mania with the Plus DLC.

 

[KenaiPhoenix]

Nah man, it didnt kill it.

It was painfully average, I now that, I asked for Christmas and was really, really disappointed, one of my hardest disappointments in gaming tbh

 

[VampireFreak]

Is impossible for Shadow to have killed the franchise, because it would revive immediately with such a banger soundtrack.

 

[ShinnAsukaYESTaylorSwiftNO]

I dunno
Sonic Jam for the Tiger Game.com is way worse

 

[Mopeybloke]

I see Clement hasn't reviewed Sonic 06 in far too long.

 

[iamthemilkman]

The reason it's hated on is because Superstars is nowhere near as good as Mania. Also Superstars base game is double the price of Mania with the Plus DLC.

Since it wasn't a sequel to Mania, I didn't judge it as one. I didn't think Mania was as good as 2, doesn't mean that I didn't like Mania.

 

[Neb Lleb]

Is impossible for Shadow to have killed the franchise, because it would revive immediately with such a banger soundtrack.

What's that? The bad game has a "banger" soundtrack? Big whoop! Tons of bad games have good soundtracks!

 

[Frickinfrik]

Is impossible for Shadow to have killed the franchise, because it would revive immediately with such a banger soundtrack.

Meh, it's a fine soundtrack. The songs blend in with one another. Fun fact: Shadow 05 is the only Sonic game with a licensed song from a different artist. "Almost Dead" by Powerman 5000

 

[GeoHikari]

Playing this game is just playing a cartoonish game with the protagonist defeating enemies using fire weapons, in the same naive of Ratchet & Clank installments, but worse.

Sad Sega in that time are not still good on making games for consoles, and the company was still making not well new action-oriented games based on his classic Arcade series such as Altered Beast and Golden Axe.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

You know, even though I love Mania, I've always seen it more like a fan project than an official project since it wasn't made in-house at Sega (or like, in the case of Sonic Superstars, OG Sonic devs). Great game, though. The most underrated 2D Sonic ever is Pocket Adventure. I can't believed that hasn't gotten a re-release. It's a real shame. It should've been in one of those Neo Geo Pocket Collections released on Switch.

SuperStars was made by Arzest so it's not even a Sonic Team game either.

Pocket Adventure is interesting but too much of a rehash of Sonic 2's levels themes and Sonic 3&K's ost. It plays decently but the Sonic Advance games were the first handhelds to finally give something since the GBA was powerful. I'd still love a true Sonic 8-bits collection though.

The reason it's hated on is because Superstars is nowhere near as good as Mania. Also Superstars base game is double the price of Mania with the Plus DLC.

Even outside of the price the 3D models were kinda bland when even Generations on 3DS had a better shading. Everything looked like toys there.

On a side note: why is this game making callbacks much better than any modern Sonic games (Frontiers and Generations included)?

 

[Waffles's iconWaffles]

Honestly? Even though I love both, I thought Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic R were the first two purely soulless entries into the series and what had started the rot.

Sonic didn't feel like Sonic on either and even the concepts felt both borrowed and aimless.

I'm sure Shadow is a far worse game, but the other two kinda paved the way that led to it -- SEGA just lost ownership of its own flagship franchise by releasing them upon a public that largely didn't ask for them because they weren't the target audience to begin with.

Thank God Adventure initiated the dive-bomber-recovering maneuver before the whole thing crashed down.

 

[iamthemilkman]

SuperStars was made by Arzest so it's not even a Sonic Team game either.

Pocket Adventure is interesting but too much of a rehash of Sonic 2's levels themes and Sonic 3&K's ost. It plays decently but the Sonic Advance games were the first handhelds to finally give something since the GBA was powerful. I'd still love a true Sonic 8-bits collection though.


Even outside of the price the 3D models were kinda bland when even Generations on 3DS had a better shading. Everything looked like toys there.

On a side note: why is this game making callbacks much better than any modern Sonic games (Frontiers and Generations included)?

Lots of ex-Sega devs are at Arzest. It's run by the guy who designed Sonic the Hedgehog and Dr. Robotnik/Eggman, Naoto Ohshima.

Naoto Ohshima, Manabu Kusunoki, Masahiro Sanpei, Masamichi Harada, Yūki Hatakeyama, Toshinori Suzuki, Kenichi Yamaguchi, etc.

 

[Alarond]

Guy remembers the "20th anniversary" of Shadow the Hedgehog game... You have to be IN LOVE for that game to remember its 20th anniversary XDDD. I mean, dude... ROFL

Can you imagine someone telling you: THIS GAME KILLED THE MARIO FRANCHISE!!!
loook the Mario stupid mustache and evil face, mistreating animals!!!

or this one

or this one

or this embarrassing SCAM, selling you an ALMOST 20 years old SNES rom... in a DVD.

THEY KILLED MARIO FRANCHISE!!!!!


LOL.

 

[Neb Lleb]

Guy remembers the "20th anniversary" of Shadow the Hedgehog game... You have to be IN LOVE for that game to remember its 20th anniversary XDDD. I mean, dude... ROFL

Can you imagine someone telling you: THIS GAME KILLED THE MARIO FRANCHISE!!!
loook the Mario stupid mustache and evil face, mistreating animals!!!

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or this one
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or this embarrassing SCAM, selling you an ALMOST 20 years old SNES rom... in a DVD.
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THEY KILLED MARIO FRANCHISE!!!!!


LOL.

Dude, every franchise slums it up. If the guy has an opinion on the bad game, let him say it.

 

[Alarond]

Dude, every franchise slums it up. If the guy has an opinion on the bad game, let him say it.

Dude, I'm NOT the one who tells you that, it's HIM, and you are defending him XDD

 

[Neb Lleb]

Dude, I'm NOT the one who tells you that, is HIM, and you are defending him XDD

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AS I RANT WITH MY HOMEBOY, SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG,
I LOOK AT MY LIFE AND REALISE THERE'S NOTHIN' LEFT
'CAUSE I'VE BEEN CONSOOMIN MEDIA FOR SO LONG THAT
EVEN MY WAIFU THINKS THAT MY MINDS IS GONE