Gay Artists Thread

also, i wanted to say this:
(but your post got buried)

the poem you posted in poetry thread, i considered sexist and an incomplete picture of women as a whole.
the fact that guy got translated is simply stupid and is
proof, because i know media is rife with that shit.
i have experienced it.

point is:

women ARE defined by their individual selves first.
ppl don't want to admit this, but then allow for this to be true with men. by and large
(taking into account what you just said about that metal band, or whatever the buzz-word is now.)

quit associating women with children. they are autonomous OF each other.
placation by saying "a women should still embrace children, even if the child rejects them"
is simply hurtful (to me) and other women who i've known have similar things said to them.

it mitigates any effort anyone has who posts poem like that to try to establish sympathy,
because it puts automatically puts women into a role where the outcome is bad for the MOTHER.
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Come on, I was only joking....
then please put /j at the end of your sentences
 
also, i wanted to say this:
(but your post got buried)

the poem you posted in poetry thread, i considered sexist and an incomplete picture of women as a whole.
the fact that guy got translated is simply stupid and is
proof, because i know media is rife with that shit.
i have experienced it.

point is:

women ARE defined by their individual selves first.
ppl don't want to admit this, but then allow for this to be true with men. by and large
(taking into account what you just said about that metal band, or whatever the buzz-word is now.)

quit associating women with children. they are autonomous OF each other.
placation by saying "a women should still embrace children, even if the child rejects them"
is simply hurtful (to me) and other women who i've known have similar things said to them.

it mitigates any effort anyone has who posts poem like that to try to establish sympathy,
because it puts automatically puts women into a role where the outcome is bad for the MOTHER.
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then please put /j at the end of your sentences
I am not an expert on gay culture, however, I could quote a line from Wilde that I have always liked: <<Experience is the name each person gives to his mistakes.>>.
 
I am not an expert on gay culture, however, I could quote a line from Wilde that I have always liked: <<Experience is the name each person gives to his mistakes.>>.
based
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and also subjective
coming from me, who identifies as not only a woman, but also trans
even though i'm biologically male.
 
No to the fact you don't pay attention to music artists personal life, that’s pretty common.
Knowing the context of the creation of something can be interesting but ultimately what matters the most is the art itself, not the personal life because I think it's a form of intimacy breach and I feel embarrassed to snoop into a person's history.

Furthermore I'm quoting this:
"The Death of the Author" (French: La mort de l'auteur) is a 1967 essay by the French literary critic and theorist Roland Barthes (1915–1980). Barthes' essay argues against traditional literary criticism's practice of relying on the intentions and biography of an author to definitively explain the "ultimate meaning" of a text. Instead, the essay emphasizes the primacy of each individual reader's interpretation of the work over any "definitive" meaning intended by the author, a process in which subtle or unnoticed characteristics may be drawn out for new insight. The essay's first English-language publication was in the American journal Aspen, no. 5–6 in 1967; the French debut was in the magazine Manteia, no. 5 (1968). The essay later appeared in an anthology of Barthes' essays, Image-Music-Text (1977), a book that also included his "From Work to Text".
What's great about art is how you can appreciate the beauty or message without the need to know everything about the person who created it.
 
Knowing the context of the creation of something can be interesting but ultimately what matters the most is the art itself, not the personal life because I think it's a form of intimacy breach and I feel embarrassed to snoop into a person's history.
Is the context of the creation not directly influenced by the artist's personal life itself?

The artist is showing you a peak into how their mind works by creating the art that they do.

Is it bad if I don't really follow the romantic/sex life of artists? I mean I care more about the art and the artist than the person and their personal lives.
Nobody is asking you to follow their romantic/sex life, but posturing your take this way is dumb.
Queer people's lives are fundamentally different in way to straight people's because we're queer.
And because we're queer, we have different views and ways of experiencing the world.

What's great about art is how you can appreciate the beauty or message without the need to know everything about the person who created it.
Saying this comes off as disingenuous to me. I can see what you're "trying" to get at by saying this, but ignoring the context of someone's life and how that influenced their art is foolish.

Now, how that art influenced YOUR life is a different story. How they live their life and how their art influenced your life are two completely different things.

I think it's shortsighted to dismiss this type of conversation by using this kind of language. The type of rhetoric you used reads to me as very damaging even though you didn't intend it to be that way.
There are tons of straight artists to draw from, and having queer artists as well that other queer people can look up to as role models is sorely needed.
 
Is the context of the creation not directly influenced by the artist's personal life itself?

The artist is showing you a peak into how their mind works by creating the art that they do.


Nobody is asking you to follow their romantic/sex life, but posturing your take this way is dumb.
Queer people's lives are fundamentally different in way to straight people's because we're queer.
And because we're queer, we have different views and ways of experiencing the world.


Saying this comes off as disingenuous to me. I can see what you're "trying" to get at by saying this, but ignoring the context of someone's life and how that influenced their art is foolish.

Now, how that art influenced YOUR life is a different story. How they live their life and how their art influenced your life are two completely different things.

I think it's shortsighted to dismiss this type of conversation by using this kind of language. The type of rhetoric you used reads to me as very damaging even though you didn't intend it to be that way.
There are tons of straight artists to draw from, and having queer artists as well that other queer people can look up to as role models is sorely needed.
This is the nicest cook ever wtf 😭
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