Final Fantasy Thread

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

i mainly played the ds version. and i find the game to be... weird. i played the nes version for a bit before my psp stopped working, but they have most of the same quirks as far as i can tell.
[and i have 45 hours on the ds version.]
lots of jobs. 22 jobs. and 2 of my favorites are included: dark knight and red mage. i kept those as soon as they became available. my party is rounded out by the dragoon and sage class. and they are excellently well designed and glorious in their 8-bit perfection. not all of them are created equally. one job, i think its bard or geomancer? takes a while to even get proper gear to use.
i don't mind the variety of jobs, but how they are handled is a problem. and it persists in all versions. you are forced to switch jobs for several spots to proceed. nepto's temple for the rat boss, turn into a frog for the tower with the meduesa head boss; garuda requires 4 dragoons to fight it without being borderline sluaghtered. pretty sure that i'm missing a couple of more places; i think you need mini to meet up with dorga.
is that a major problem by itself? no, not really. but the job sickness is a very good deterrent. it adds some unnecessary grinding to the game flow. and it gets stronger if the character in question uses a magic or melee class. switching between the two groups increases the amount of battles you need to get the character back into fighting shape. and the nes version has job currency.
i don't even know how to react to that.
i can add a couple of more points, but i should just stop with one for now.

Those are all valid points but unrelated to the point Lee was making about it being advanced for an NES game. You have to compare it other NES games, not SNES/DS games.

 

[Lee__Kanker]

i mainly played the ds version. and i find the game to be... weird. i played the nes version for a bit before my psp stopped working, but they have most of the same quirks as far as i can tell.
[and i have 45 hours on the ds version.]
lots of jobs. 22 jobs. and 2 of my favorites are included: dark knight and red mage. i kept those as soon as they became available. my party is rounded out by the dragoon and sage class. and they are excellently well designed and glorious in their 8-bit perfection. not all of them are created equally. one job, i think its bard or geomancer? takes a while to even get proper gear to use.
i don't mind the variety of jobs, but how they are handled is a problem. and it persists in all versions. you are forced to switch jobs for several spots to proceed. nepto's temple for the rat boss, turn into a frog for the tower with the meduesa head boss; garuda requires 4 dragoons to fight it without being borderline sluaghtered. pretty sure that i'm missing a couple of more places; i think you need mini to meet up with dorga.
is that a major problem by itself? no, not really. but the job sickness is a very good deterrent. it adds some unnecessary grinding to the game flow. and it gets stronger if the character in question uses a magic or melee class. switching between the two groups increases the amount of battles you need to get the character back into fighting shape. and the nes version has job currency.
i don't even know how to react to that.
i can add a couple of more points, but i should just stop with one for now.

While I disagree I can see where you're coming from, not a bad critique; but I meant on a tecnical level it's a monumental achievement for a console made for single screen games
In its native country it's the game that popularized the series

 

[MasterEn]

Those are all valid points but unrelated to the point Lee was making about it being advanced for an NES game. You have to compare it other NES games, not SNES/DS games.

that's a fair point, but i could get unreasonable if i did that. i would rather compare versions of the same game. if i did what you suggest, i'd piss off quite a few people.

 

[Lee__Kanker]

that's a fair point, but i could get unreasonable if i did that. i would rather compare versions of the same game. if i did what you suggest, i'd piss off quite a few people.

This is a forum about talking games, I can handle you disliking something lol
Just today someone listed a game I love in the worst games you've played thread

(And I dont pull any punchres when I talk about thr silent hill 2 remake or the last of us being shit)

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

that's a fair point, but i could get unreasonable if i did that. i would rather compare versions of the same game. if i did what you suggest, i'd piss off quite a few people.

Not sure why that would piss off anyone. We all have our own likes dislikes.

 

[MasterEn]

While I disagree I can see where you're coming from, not a bad critique; but I meant on a tecnical level it's a monumental achievement for a console made for single screen games
In its native country it's the game that popularized the series

i know. as strategist said: it's got 4 overworlds. the floating continent; the frozen world and its free flowing world and the underwater side. there's lots of enemies, lots of jobs, lots of colors; auto targeting, rows were introduced. lots of good improvements over 1 and 2 in addition to other games being made at the time.
maybe i think its too easy to compare it to other games because of it's vast superiority.
why not compare it to something on equal footing?

 

[Lee__Kanker]

i know. as strategist said: it's got 4 overworlds. the floating continent; the frozen world and its free flowing world and the underwater side. there's lots of enemies, lots of jobs, lots of colors; auto targeting, rows were introduced. lots of good improvements over 1 and 2 in addition to other games being made at the time.
maybe i think its too easy to compare it to other games because of it's vast superiority.
why not compare it to something on equal footing?

Megami Tensei 2 is almost as big

So many fusions...
So many enemies
So many impeccable sprites

 

[MasterEn]

Not sure why that would piss off anyone. We all have our own likes dislikes.

This is a forum about talking games, I can handle you disliking something lol
Just today someone listed a game I love in the worst games you've played thread

(And I dont pull any punchres when I talk about thr silent hill 2 remake or the last of us being shit)

i can... be a bit unyielding. when i say something is my favorite; you can not change my mind about it.
a lot of people say ff6 and chrono trigger are 2 of the best rpgs on the snes, right?
ff4 is the best. no argument, or contest.
ff9 is superior to 7 and 8.
castlevania circle of the moon is the best game in the series.
i think i would almost go as far as to say arkanoid is the best nes game. ever.

 

[Lee__Kanker]

i can... be a bit unyielding. when i say something is my favorite; you can not change my mind about it.
a lot of people say ff6 and chrono trigger are 2 of the best rpgs on the snes, right?
ff4 is the best. no argument, or contest.
ff9 is superior to 7 and 8.
castlevania circle of the moon is the best game in the series.
i think i would almost go as far as to say arkanoid is the best nes game. ever.

I know 4 is the fanfavorite in japan alongside 10 and 7

 

[MasterEn]

I know 4 is the fanfavorite in japan alongside 10 and 7

4=good
10=good
7 = you lack an imagination that can't function without some grounding in the current day and you like basic bitches. [aka tifa.] {does not apply as much if you like aerith or cissnei}

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

i can... be a bit unyielding. when i say something is my favorite; you can not change my mind about it.
a lot of people say ff6 and chrono trigger are 2 of the best rpgs on the snes, right?
ff4 is the best. no argument, or contest.
ff9 is superior to 7 and 8.
castlevania circle of the moon is the best game in the series.
i think i would almost go as far as to say arkanoid is the best nes game. ever.

FF4 is better than FF6 in a lot of ways, I don't think that is that hot of a take.

I think it is pretty even between FF7/FF8 and FF9. I think FF9 is the best game overall of the PS1 generation but I prefer the theme/aesthetic/story of FF7.

Arkanoid? The brick breaking game? Now that is a hot take. I like it.

 

[Lee__Kanker]

4=good
10=good
7 = you lack an imagination that can't function without some grounding in the current day and you like basic bitches. [aka tifa.] {does not apply as much if you like aerith or cissnei}

 

[MasterEn]

FF4 is better than FF6 in a lot of ways, I don't think that is that hot of a take.

I think it is pretty even between FF7/FF8 and FF9. I think FF9 is the best game overall of the PS1 generation but I prefer the theme/aesthetic/story of FF7.

Arkanoid? The brick breaking game? Now that is a hot take. I like it.

i can't stop play arkanoid. have you seen the what the final boss is? you would not expect it no matter how much time that you have to guess. story is mid at best in ff7. it's only good because of crisis core. the superior installment.

 

[Lee__Kanker]

i think i would almost go as far as to say arkanoid is the best nes game. ever.

The best rpg on ps1 is Koudelka

 

[MasterEn]

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i don't know how to feel about her. i had too much trouble recruiting her to want to even use her. so you're safe.
for now.

 

[Lee__Kanker]

i don't know how to feel about her. i had too much trouble recruiting her to want to even use her. so you're safe.
for now.

You shouldve guessed what chick I liked from whats under my username

 

[MasterEn]

You shouldve guessed what chick I liked from whats under my username

she's a tomboy?

 

[Lee__Kanker]

she's a tomboy?

Yep

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[MasterEn]

Yep

...k.
i used her once and then never again. i guess having to redo her encounter about 15 times left a sour taste in my mouth.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

And here I was defending Lee and he turns out to be a Yuffie fan.

Just kidding, kind of.

 

[Lee__Kanker]

...k.
i used her once and then never again. i guess having to redo her encounter about 15 times left a sour taste in my mouth.

Wait until she steals your shit

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And here I was defending Lee and he turns out to be a Yuffie fan.

Just kidding, kind of.

I never hide my preferences

 

[MasterEn]

And here I was defending Lee and he turns out to be a Yuffie fan.

Just kidding, kind of.

does she actually take materia from you when you fail her recruitment encounter or was that just bullshit?

 

[Lee__Kanker]

does she actually take materia from you when you fail her recruitment encounter or was that just bullshit?

Later in the story

 

[MasterEn]

Later in the story

when exactly does that happen? been a couple of decades since my one playthrough.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

I never hide my preferences

Some people like Dr. Pepper, some people like girls who can't properly button their pants. There's space for all kinds in the world.

I'm just being silly in case it wasn't obvious.