Final Fantasy Megathread

[jon2]

The FF series had peaked by X

It was pushing its luck by the time of X-2

The last hurrah was XII and its offshoots in the Tactics category (which made it successful due to a new series + nostalgia bait)

After that it all came crumbling down

 

[Dyne]

Seems I agree with most people in this thread: I prefer the old ones and its not even close. The last one I actually completed was XII.
It seems SquareEnix has just decided Final Fantasy is an Action RPG series now.
Personally I think their "HD 2D" games like Octopath Traveler and Triangle Strategy are better than any Final Fantasy after XII

 

[iamthemilkman]

Old. Didn't care for the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy or anything that came after.

 

[bjork]

I haven't played any after XII and haven't finished any after IX, so I guess I'll say old, but mostly from lack of experience with the newer ones.

 

[Deleted member 660650]

What is a soul in games? Which games in the series are old for you, and which are new? I don't know, maybe even FF4 is new for you, because it's not a turn-based anymore. So many questions about this post...

Instead let's talk about what is love and hope the babies won't hurt us no more lol.

 

[χKai]

I like mine so old they still use the original fan translation.

 

[Morgan Katarn]

I prefer old not maybe becuse of nostalgia and they where good games. But honestly it´s like Square lost their touch. Well "they did kind of well with 16 I quit enjoyed 16 allot even with it being easy as hell.

But honestly it´s soooo damn strange FF13, 13-2, 15 are not final fantasy rely it´s like does games lost the magic and and uniqeness the older game haves also FF13 combat is stupid.

But thee strange part is FF14 manage to capture that feel and magic FF1-10 have and that what so damn strange their main line game just all final fantasy feel but not their mmo.

Im sorry but it´s so hard to explain what I mean.

 

[MasterEn]

the old games are better overall. better characters, better graphics, better music, better stories and themes.

 

[Deleted member 660650]

I prefer old not maybe becuse of nostalgia and they where good games. But honestly it´s like Square lost their touch. Well "they did kind of well with 16 I quit enjoyed 16 allot even with it being easy as hell.

But honestly it´s soooo damn strange FF13, 13-2, 15 are not final fantasy rely it´s like does games lost the magic and and uniqeness the older game haves also FF13 combat is stupid.

But thee strange part is FF14 manage to capture that feel and magic FF1-10 have and that what so damn strange their main line game just all final fantasy feel but not their mmo.

Im sorry but it´s so hard to explain what I mean.

It's true that Square lost its touch especially after it became Square Enix but the real deterioration happened since around 2010 when they relied on action games a lot and got too Americanized. Now it's like Americans developing these new Japanese games in general, not a Japanese and they go further on nonsense censors by reaching new lows (Do you know you cannot type the name of the character "Morgana" in Persona 5 The Phantom X because they banned any word like "morg" that has a negative meaning? lol). As a person who is so away from America and Japan and no fan of any of these culture what I think is for wrong way to ensure profit Americans start to produce games like Japanese and Japanese try to do the same by trying to produce American games but thus they both lose their identity and as a result their games are reduced to their empty shells. Now the combat system of FF games doesn't make sense (either make it full turn-based or real-time lol) and then non-Japanese try to produce turn-based games that's more like real time with stop feature that would be more fitting if it was an action game. Perhaps the most recent BS is quick time events in supposed turn based game lol. Imagine you are bad at action games but you are forced with quick time events that's even harder for action gamers lol. And when you prefer to relax and think by playing turn based games the new fake turn based hybrids gets so nonsense the game goes on but you have to wait for action points to act lol. These days video game industry is so confused like a headless chicken lol.

 

[Morgan Katarn]

Yeah man I can only agree with you on that and it´s sad allot of Japanese games has becomes so brainwashed with dei and American culture in general I honestly started to look forward more to chines games than Japanese games. Im not kidding China has started making for me at least rely good fun games. Black myth wokong. Genshin, Wuthering waves "man 2.2 patch the story had me crying and feel very invested.
Also south Korea has done allot of nice games as well.

 

[JoueurCitoyen]

As most people here: old Final Fantasy (I-VI). But I liked FFXIII and LOVED Lightning Returns: FFXIII. FFXVI is the only one I did not play at launch, I feel like this is not for me anymore!

 

[Deleted member 660650]

Yeah man I can only agree with you on that and it´s sad allot of Japanese games has becomes so brainwashed with dei and American culture in general I honestly started to look forward more to chines games than Japanese games. Im not kidding China has started making for me at least rely good fun games. Black myth wokong. Genshin, Wuthering waves "man 2.2 patch the story had me crying and feel very invested.
Also south Korea has done allot of nice games as well.

For a decade I rely on indie developers while 99% AAA games are what I spam "ignore" on Steam anymore lol. I dig out good old games from before 90s just to discover decent "new" games to play while I lost hope in video game industry after PS2-era. Only rare exceptions here and there and most games are rubbish no way in hell I would even play them if they had paid money for it lol.

 

[Cantarella]

As for summary:

>skip cutscene

To be fair 7 is complex now because of all those additional games as well, But most of the series has had pretty zany plots, even when they generally retained a more serious tone.

Trying to summarise any of them is going to be difficult. I feel the issue is more that the later stories grew in scope and lost their character. These stories aren't forgettable cus they're complex they're forgettable cus they're typically bland as shit.

I'm only talking about the original game. There's a difference between not being able to summarize a story and attempting to summarize things and getting a lot ass-backwards. It's a little different now that superfans have been talking about the game for multiple decades and a lot of this info is, y'know, archived, but for a long time, and now, you saw much of the latter online with regards to 7 because of all the unreliable narrators and how some key info is revealed in a rather casual away. Maybe we could call it deceptively simple?

And I feel I'd have to disagree about summarizing most of them. Like, few except superfans are gonna be able to remember everything, I think that most people who played 9 (until they have to remember the last 5%) and 10, and V, and 4, and 6, and 1, and [dies of age] are going to be able to remember the general shape of the game. They probably don't remember anything as each of these games have a fair amount of fluff, but that's different from getting tricked by the game or something like 8 where dudes are just gonna be totally lost.

In any case, it's a moot point because the actual complaint people have seems to be in regards to stories just being poorly told, not how complex they are or aren't.

 

[Deleted member 660650]

>skip cutscene




I'm only talking about the original game. There's a difference between not being able to summarize a story and attempting to summarize things and getting a lot ass-backwards. It's a little different now that superfans have been talking about the game for multiple decades and a lot of this info is, y'know, archived, but for a long time, and now, you saw much of the latter online with regards to 7 because of all the unreliable narrators and how some key info is revealed in a rather casual away. Maybe we could call it deceptively simple?

And I feel I'd have to disagree about summarizing most of them. Like, few except superfans are gonna be able to remember everything, I think that most people who played 9 (until they have to remember the last 5%) and 10, and V, and 4, and 6, and 1, and [dies of age] are going to be able to remember the general shape of the game. They probably don't remember anything as each of these games have a fair amount of fluff, but that's different from getting tricked by the game or something like 8 where dudes are just gonna be totally lost.

In any case, it's a moot point because the actual complaint people have seems to be in regards to stories just being poorly told, not how complex they are or aren't.

Honestly FF7 has so funny nonsense story I cannot forget it. My brain believes FF7 is so meme-worthy BS I should remember lol. On the other hand I replayed FF6 a lot but the game is so complex I keep forgetting which is a good thing because every time I forget the game I can experience the game again without having to beat my head on the wall until I even forget my name lol.

 

[Graw]

I like all of them up to IX except for VIII. I didn't like X or XII. X was extremely disappointing after IX and I found XII boring and quit halfway through and never finished it. I haven't played any of the later games. V is my all time favourite FF game though and I've replayed it a bunch of times over the years. The job system is just a ton of fun and I prefer the story to the edgier over dramatic games that came later.

 

[Raud]

I like The old ganes better, I kinda enjoy games post 2010 like Type 0 or The musical games on 3DS, The old ones hace some games I don't like that much, like II Or VIII but I still find some enjoyment in those.

 

[Mopeybloke]

I prefer the old ones, especially 7, 9, 6 and 12 on certain days.

You have to wonder what is there to like in the new ones. They have little in common. They don't use the same battle systems, ability systems, story is unrelated.

 

[elbanano]

Didn't play all FF games, what I can tell you is that I loved FF6 and kinda hated FF7, I played both long after their release date so I had no nostalgia glasses, FF6 gameplay, story and art made me love it, then we have FF7 whose world was annoying to explore and I hated moving through each place with a prerendered background, which did look phenomenal and at times had very interesting camera angles, but navigating them was painful and not always knew I could interact with something or that there was an entrance somewhere.

Also played FF1 (charming and long enough), FF2 (boring af, loved the pirate girl tho) and FF5 (almost cried with Galuf's death, but man I hate grinding in this game, glad FF6 wasn't this grindy afair).

Some day I will play FF9, it looks so nice, already have it on Steam.

 

[Deleted member 58254]

i want to clap tifa's cheeks

 

[TropicalFreeze3499]

i want to clap tifa's cheeks

Join the line, buddy.

 

[Strategist Strategist]

Join the line, buddy.
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[JusaikiJusaiki's icon]

Is FF7 remake what we wanted?

I've had a hard time swallowing whatever Square enix threw our way since FF15, Yeah the company ran into pumps in the past but it wasn't as bad as this (well if you count the ff movie then that might be a lil different) I just can't understand how this company work anymore, I'm not gonna rant about their business plan so I'll stay on point, i didn't enjoy ff7r and I can't even go past the first 10 hrs of rebirth, I hate the multiverse I'm not a big fan of how the game carry itself and I hate the "revision" who asked for this ? And who likes it? I'm asking genuinely what is so great about ff7r ? Because either I'm stupid or I'm crazy, I'm all for new ideas but not the way they are doing it, I even kinda liked FF12 even tho the hell that game went thru but you can at least see the vision, but with 7R ? It's just a waste of time, i really wanna know what people think of the game if you played it did you like it ? Yes or no please explain with your reason and thoughts on the remake I'm ltrly beefing with a friend over it rn

 

[Nebulon_Galaxy]

All i wanted was FF7 and i got was Nomura meddling because he is willing to destroy all other franchises since Square caesar'd his baby Versus13 in broad daylight.

 

[Pearly]

Anyone that greatly enjoyed the compilation and just wanted more of that, but also a reimagining of the original game in that style is very happy with it.

Basically, long story short, everyone that loved advent children pretty much wanted the original game again but in that style, best they could offer at the time was crisis core and dirge of cerberus, of which I greatly enjoyed dirge, not so much crisis core.

With all that in mind, I am one of the many fans that wanted the advent children style remake of FF7, and we got that at last, so I absolutely adore these games far more than I ever could enjoy the original anymore.

These games are definitely not made for the fanatics of the OG game that hated the FF7 compilation, it's that simple.

Yes, I was there at the time, the hype for an advent children style remake is very real and most of us bought the two new games, anyone that hated compilation or worse completely ignored it, got blindsided by these games.

Also in all honesty, it's very much what FF7 would have been had it be made today anyway. The original was an N64 game that was switched over to the ps1 at some point during development thus giving it the N64 character models that are in the game.

Also Kazushige Nojima was one of the main writers for the original 7, but also advent children and the remake trilogy. This is pretty much just elements he's been adding since advent children and this new trilogy fits with that vision

 

[JusaikiJusaiki's icon]

What I'm trying to say is, FF7 Remake could've been a faithful remake—not FF7 2.0. What they're doing now might’ve worked better as a movie, maybe something like the Dragon Quest V movie. I did like some aspects, like how they gave the early characters more depth and expanded on their lives, but beyond that, nothing really made me interested in playing it. I went through hell to finish the Remake and couldn’t bring myself to replay it with the Intergrade expansion.

And when Rebirth came out, it completely turned me off—I don’t even want to see anything about FF7 anymore. I feel like Square reached their peak with the original FF7 and fell off hard with the Remake. I’ve seen people blaming the developers for Rebirth’s shortcomings, and then shifting the blame between Nomura and the writer, which is crazy to me.

I think Square could’ve done a lot of creative new things with Final Fantasy—or honestly, just created a new IP, since they've already sold two FF7 titles. All of this just makes me scared of what Dragon Quest XII might end up looking like