What is the best version of Final Fantasy IV?

  • SNES

    Votes: 16 26.7%
  • PSOne

    Votes: 8 13.3%
  • GBA

    Votes: 17 28.3%
  • PSP

    Votes: 20 33.3%
  • Nintendo DS

    Votes: 16 26.7%
  • PC (FFIV 3D remake)

    Votes: 4 6.7%
  • Pixel Remaster

    Votes: 10 16.7%

  • Total voters
    60
Just a quick Final Fantasy Tactics Appreciation post from me....

First time playing this game and stuck on the elmdore lucavi fight, fans lie this game is ball busting hard, i felt bad at first for grinding and min maxing, but you really need level 99 and complex setups to beat this game without stress and praying to rng, anyway it's a good game, better than modern ones
 
Ummm lol. It does take some rng luck, but you can definitvely beat Elmdor without a lvl 99 party. You need a hasted dual wielding Ninja Ramza and some other busted party members. You also need status protection against charm from the dancer girls. The biggest determining factor is if the RNG decides to cooperate and Rafa gets out of the way. I'm not sure if you are talking about the rooftop fight or the one inside the building, but they both are beatable with the right equipment/party.
 
Enemies level up with you (similar to FF8) which makes the game challenging throughout. I remember the auto potion ability being a life saver throughout this game. This is one of, if not thee best game ive played in terms of gameplay which at times can be very tricky, especially during boss fights as your character arrangement before the battle matters GREATLY. I actually defeated the final boss with all my characters dead minus 1 and killed the boss when his magic spell damaged him because i was right next to him therefore killing himself. Played the ps1 version and looking forward to the enhanced psp release
 
In Final fantasy tactics on PSP enemies get highest level you have at your party. Yep it make the game do freaky hard but if you get an orator in start of game you can get high level enemies to your party. It is so useful on emulators.
But in consoles......"you've met the trouble fate,haven't you?"
Gba version is a piece of cake and it had some OP skills.
 
The first time I played this I had a hard time defeating Wiegraf in his Lucavi form (I didn't expect he would transform lol). The difficulty spike that time surprised me as I had to restart my whole save file from the beginning because I screwed up saving. But just like batman with enough preptime you can overcome any battle in this game.
 
The first time I played this I had a hard time defeating Wiegraf in his Lucavi form (I didn't expect he would transform lol). The difficulty spike that time surprised me as I had to restart my whole save file from the beginning because I screwed up saving. But just like batman with enough preptime you can overcome any battle in this game.

Yeah Wiegraf is one of those moments in gaming where you learn the value of having multiple save files. As those castles with 3 inescapable battles are an easy way to soft lock yourself.
 
Kinda sad though. I think the tactics games of final fantasy are the only game that's not ported to pc yet.
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Yeah Wiegraf is one of those moments in gaming where you learn the value of having multiple save files. As those castles with 3 inescapable battles are an easy way to soft lock yourself.
And the reason why I learned to find a walkthrough. :LOL::LOL::LOL:
 
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Archers are your best friends. Makes the game so much easier. I recommend Front Mission 3, and Tactics Ogre after tactics, which I consider the 2 greatest SRPGS of all time, above tactics. If you want more after those 3, check out Vandal Hearts 1.
 
Is there anyway to play Final Fantasy Tactics S. I believe this game was released only for mobile in 2013. Is there anyway to play it today?
 
Archers are your best friends. Makes the game so much easier. I recommend Front Mission 3, and Tactics Ogre after tactics, which I consider the 2 greatest SRPGS of all time, above tactics. If you want more after those 3, check out Vandal Hearts 1.
Best class in hard one. But become useless against who knows arrow block
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Is there anyway to play Final Fantasy Tactics S. I believe this game was released only for mobile in 2013. Is there anyway to play it today?
Can you right would name. When I search it lion wars come.
 
first time playing this game and stuck on the elmdore lucavi fight, fans lie this game is ball busting hard, i felt bad at first for grinding and min maxing, but you really need level 99 and complex setups to beat this game without stress and praying to rng, anyway it's a good game, better than modern ones
Naw you don't need all that. Just use 'yell' and have a fast team over a beefy team any day. You gotta be careful leading up to Limberry Castle. Many of us had to restart our entire playthroughs lol
 
Naw you don't need all that. Just use 'yell' and have a fast team over a beefy team any day. You gotta be careful leading up to Limberry Castle. Many of us had to restart our entire playthroughs lol
I heard about restarting whole play but I never seen it.
one reason I rather to play GBA FFT is this game was so good you can level up so quick and get best jobs fast.
 
Final Fantasy Tactics is more of a slow-burn but with a much deeper payoff once you learn to adapt to its systems. It takes a while but the AHA moment makes it ALLL worthwhile! Also the payoff to the story is truly masterful as well. So many gut-punches in this game and they are all wonderful. (maybe I'm a masochist?)
 
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On FF3(I only played the 3d remake btw for clarification's sake), I thinks that its the worst of the mainline ff games that I have played (1-5, 13 trilogy, and 15, and I'm also gonna say that I've played the first Bravely Default as well because its relevant to this discussion)

of the Job based games, FF1 is more unique in that you are locked into your jobs for the entire playthrough and both ff5 and bravely default do a job change system better by making every job more or less unique in some way. Out of the 22 jobs in the game (23 in the remake because it adds freelancer), 8 are just upgraded versions of previous jobs making them redundant, and 2 of those eight make all other jobs redundant, and then the red mage job is rendered useless by sage as well. Finally there is scholar, which only exists because of a gimmick for one boss in the entire game. so that's 7 out of the 22 jobs that are completely useless by the end of the game, oh and sage and ninja still outclass most of the other ones except for maybe black belt.

The gameplay is very gimmicky, in this dungeon you have to shrink down which makes physically classes useless, in this dungeon you have to turn into frogs which makes it just plain awful, in this dungeon you have to fight the boss 3 times, for this boss battle you have to use scholar, for this boss battle you have to use dragoon, etc. It leaves no room for experimentation, which is in my opinion half the point of the job based final fantasy games, for example in bravely default i tried a strategy where i used the move that attacks with your defense and double equipped shields and turned my characters into ICBMs, and in FF5, I beat the final boss with a party of all red mages plus the fact that the mimic class exists in that game as well, and even in FF2 i made guy a white mage/monk hybrid and Ricard into a pseudo Dark Knight. FF3 would never let you do anything like that, you have to use what the game s wants you to, when the game wants you to, it misses the point of a job/class system: to experiment.

And lastly the story is nothing special, it just feels like a different draft of FF1's story, though I do have one good thing to say here, when you leave the floating continent for the first time and see how big the world is compared to it and that it just looks like one town on the world map, and that up to this point you were just a big fish in a small pond, is probably one of my favorite story moments in the franchise from what I have played. But, that belies the problem as well, its the only memorable moment from that game, all the other ff games have multiple memorable story scenes or moments that stick with you, where i can barely remember the general outline of ff3's story and will probably completely forget it in a couple years

Overall I would go as far to say FF3, regardless of the version you are playing, is just a worse version of FF1. I genuinely think that it could be skipped by someone wanting to playthrough all the mainline ff games and they would lose nothing overall despite the one moment where you leave the floating continent for the first time
 
Good post. I've only played like 45 minutes of III's 3D remake but it's something (along with I and II) I'll eventually get to just for completion's sake.
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I am a slave to this accursed franchise
 
@Pandaprewmaster325 @MasterEn @Mopeybloke @Strategist

On FF3(I only played the 3d remake btw for clarification's sake), I thinks that its the worst of the mainline ff games that I have played (1-5, 13 trilogy, and 15, and I'm also gonna say that I've played the first Bravely Default as well because its relevant to this discussion)

of the Job based games, FF1 is more unique in that you are locked into your jobs for the entire playthrough and both ff5 and bravely default do a job change system better by making every job more or less unique in some way. Out of the 22 jobs in the game (23 in the remake because it adds freelancer), 8 are just upgraded versions of previous jobs making them redundant, and 2 of those eight make all other jobs redundant, and then the red mage job is rendered useless by sage as well. Finally there is scholar, which only exists because of a gimmick for one boss in the entire game. so that's 7 out of the 22 jobs that are completely useless by the end of the game, oh and sage and ninja still outclass most of the other ones except for maybe black belt.

The gameplay is very gimmicky, in this dungeon you have to shrink down which makes physically classes useless, in this dungeon you have to turn into frogs which makes it just plain awful, in this dungeon you have to fight the boss 3 times, for this boss battle you have to use scholar, for this boss battle you have to use dragoon, etc. It leaves no room for experimentation, which is in my opinion half the point of the job based final fantasy games, for example in bravely default i tried a strategy where i used the move that attacks with your defense and double equipped shields and turned my characters into ICBMs, and in FF5, I beat the final boss with a party of all red mages plus the fact that the mimic class exists in that game as well, and even in FF2 i made guy a white mage/monk hybrid and Ricard into a pseudo Dark Knight. FF3 would never let you do anything like that, you have to use what the game s wants you to, when the game wants you to, it misses the point of a job/class system: to experiment.

And lastly the story is nothing special, it just feels like a different draft of FF1's story, though I do have one good thing to say here, when you leave the floating continent for the first time and see how big the world is compared to it and that it just looks like one town on the world map, and that up to this point you were just a big fish in a small pond, is probably one of my favorite story moments in the franchise from what I have played. But, that belies the problem as well, its the only memorable moment from that game, all the other ff games have multiple memorable story scenes or moments that stick with you, where i can barely remember the general outline of ff3's story and will probably completely forget it in a couple years

Overall I would go as far to say FF3, regardless of the version you are playing, is just a worse version of FF1. I genuinely think that it could be skipped by someone wanting to playthrough all the mainline ff games and they would lose nothing overall despite the one moment where you leave the floating continent for the first time
yep. this is all true. i could argue the ds version is just as bad as the nes version due to the onion knight class being locked behind the mognet along with the job exclusive weapons and gear and the training dungeon where you can get elixirs and onion knight gear. 45 hours into the game, level 60, and due to the absurd difficulty bonus that they gave to the late game bosses, it's nearly impossible to beat the final boss without extreme luck.
the psp version sets the extra content to unlock as you play through the game, which makes it a better choice to playthrough.
i will say that it is good for ff3 to exist, since it lays out the job system which is vastly improved upon in 5, tactics, tactics advance 1 and 2, 10-2 and 12's zodiac version. it bears the brunt of the imperfections and flaws which would have hurt the later instalments if it was held back from implementing them so early on.
that and some drawings that i made are based on a couple of classes from the game that i added to my art galleries on deviantart and newgrounds; a couple of which are some of my favorite drawings that i made so far. so, ff3 is a necessary evil to have in the franchise, a painful route on the journey to better games.
 
FF3 is the definition of a halfway point between 1 and 5. You're not locked into your jobs like 1, but it's not as flexible as 5's Job System.
 
Trust me you don't want to play this utter piece of garbage called Final Fantasy franchise its a stain on humanity.

I don't know how people keep playing and buying this trash it sold 200 million copies by now like HOW???

Like the games are do bad.... The first game is a mess of a code trying to be a game

The second game tries to have a story but it fails misreably

The third game is a failed attempt at trying to fix the first game by adding a job system like they cant even get the name right instead of calling it classes they call it jobs like????

The fourth is a disaster and argubly the biggest disaster since WW2 that befell humanity like it doesn't even have a mini map...

The fifth game tries to fix the gameplay by adding the job should be called class system but it ends up being a mesh mash of poorly coded and balanced abilities and a story so forgetabble that it gets swept under the rug all the time

The sixith game has the worst villian ever written like he is a clown and he is a bad one he cant even do jokes right he is literally a useless worthless pile of colored meat.

The seventh game is even a worse disaster than the 6th it cant even load the overworld until near 8 hours of gameplay and not to mention magic is restricted by colored balls that fail at adding anything gameplay wise , not to mention the poorly made limit breaks that were first introduced in this game it removes any challenge.

The eigth game is a half assed piss poor attempt at romance driven game literally unplayable.

The ninth game has you play as an annoying insufferable monkey who keeps simping over a dumb princess who doesnt even like him.

And if you thought this torment ends boy wait until you play Final Fantasy tactics its the combination of all of the above but made 10 times worse with 1998 game of thrones kid friendly version , and a gameplay so bad it makes you sigh everytime you play it like they tried to mix strategy with RPG and add their shit job system and what you end up is this unholy piece of awful game.

Oh and it doesnt end here the protags are made with worst qualities in any human the 4th game has you play as a war criminal with self image issues , the 6th game has you play as a green haired teenage girl like WHO IN HIS RIGHT MIND THOUGHT MAKING YOU PLAY AS A GREEN HAIRED TEENAGE GIRL IS A GOOD IDEA????? Oh she also doesnt know jack shit and has self esteem issues the whole game , the 7th game has you play a delelu loser who larps as a elite soldier he is so useless his lover dies in front of his eyes and he does nothing , the 8th game has you play as an autistic kid.

I been playing for near 7/8 months these games not because i like them i just want to see will they ever get good but they never do , i know this asshole IRL who thinks square (the ones behind this mess) are master craftsmen who create the best RPGs ever , he is just that stupid that he thinks these games are worth anything..... More than belonging to the trash.

They cant even get the charcters right the dude in the poster of the first game is supposed to be this stupid warrior guy and its been near 40 years and despite all the remakes and re-releases they still cant draw his armor correctly to be in line with the cover art like do you expect them to a good game if they cant even fix this detail???

Everytime i finished one of these games i tear up not because i loved the game and finished a great adventure no because i figure i had the strength to go through these piles of trash and sink 50 hours in each one.

Everytime i beat one i end up feeling empty afterwards not because i beaten a great game but because i know i wasted another month playing a series with games that never get good but i keep expecting them to do like an idiot....

Everytime i beat one of the Final Fantasy games i get the urge to jump from the window so i can forget the memory about me playing this heresy.... All in all never play Final Fantasy trust me it will make your life worse.
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Trust me you don't want to play this utter piece of garbage called Final Fantasy franchise its a stain on humanity.

I don't know how people keep playing and buying this trash it sold 200 million copies by now like HOW???

Like the games are do bad.... The first game is a mess of a code trying to be a game

The second game tries to have a story but it fails misreably

The third game is a failed attempt at trying to fix the first game by adding a job system like they cant even get the name right instead of calling it classes they call it jobs like????

The fourth is a disaster and argubly the biggest disaster since WW2 that befell humanity like it doesn't even have a mini map...

The fifth game tries to fix the gameplay by adding the job should be called class system but it ends up being a mesh mash of poorly coded and balanced abilities and a story so forgetabble that it gets swept under the rug all the time

The sixith game has the worst villian ever written like he is a clown and he is a bad one he cant even do jokes right he is literally a useless worthless pile of colored meat.

The seventh game is even a worse disaster than the 6th it cant even load the overworld until near 8 hours of gameplay and not to mention magic is restricted by colored balls that fail at adding anything gameplay wise , not to mention the poorly made limit breaks that were first introduced in this game it removes any challenge.

The eigth game is a half assed piss poor attempt at romance driven game literally unplayable.

The ninth game has you play as an annoying insufferable monkey who keeps simping over a dumb princess who doesnt even like him.

And if you thought this torment ends boy wait until you play Final Fantasy tactics its the combination of all of the above but made 10 times worse with 1998 game of thrones kid friendly version , and a gameplay so bad it makes you sigh everytime you play it like they tried to mix strategy with RPG and add their shit job system and what you end up is this unholy piece of awful game.

Oh and it doesnt end here the protags are made with worst qualities in any human the 4th game has you play as a war criminal with self image issues , the 6th game has you play as a green haired teenage girl like WHO IN HIS RIGHT MIND THOUGHT MAKING YOU PLAY AS A GREEN HAIRED TEENAGE GIRL IS A GOOD IDEA????? Oh she also doesnt know jack shit and has self esteem issues the whole game , the 7th game has you play a delelu loser who larps as a elite soldier he is so useless his lover dies in front of his eyes and he does nothing , the 8th game has you play as an autistic kid.

I been playing for near 7/8 months these games not because i like them i just want to see will they ever get good but they never do , i know this asshole IRL who thinks square (the ones behind this mess) are master craftsmen who create the best RPGs ever , he is just that stupid that he thinks these games are worth anything..... More than belonging to the trash.

They cant even get the charcters right the dude in the poster of the first game is supposed to be this stupid warrior guy and its been near 40 years and despite all the remakes and re-releases they still cant draw his armor correctly to be in line with the cover art like do you expect them to a good game if they cant even fix this detail???

Everytime i finished one of these games i tear up not because i loved the game and finished a great adventure no because i figure i had the strength to go through these piles of trash and sink 50 hours in each one.

Everytime i beat one i end up feeling empty afterwards not because i beaten a great game but because i know i wasted another month playing a series with games that never get good but i keep expecting them to do like an idiot....

Everytime i beat one of the Final Fantasy games i get the urge to jump from the window so i can forget the memory about me playing this heresy.... All in all never play Final Fantasy trust me it will make your life worse.

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