Genesis Ecco the dolphin 1 and 2 getting remastered, ecco the dolphin 3 announced.

[Badseed]

But why? in over 50 years I have never met one person who likes Ecco. Why is that, because the games suck

 

[Zerohour2k12]

Neat!
I still have the Fixed and Enhance Edition. It's still available here!

 

[trickybus]

Alright, I never played Ecco; do I wait for the remaster or rawdog the OG?

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

But why? in over 50 years I have never met one person who likes Ecco. Why is that, because the games suck

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The game doesn't suck, it's just really hard.

Furthermore personal experience doesn't systematically makes it true. I mean a game could be good but niche so not meeting anybody who loves it and the intrinsic quality of said game aren't necessarily means they're correlated (nor that it implies a causality between the two).

 

[Segadude113]

But why? in over 50 years I have never met one person who likes Ecco. Why is that, because the games suck

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i like em. Play them long enough and you just go into the zone. Solving level puzzles is easy after that.

 

[Badseed]

i like em. Play them long enough and you just go into the zone. Solving level puzzles is easy after that.

Sorry friends, but you lost me at shooting sonar at clams

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Sorry friends, but you lost me at shooting sonar at clams

Dolphins use sonars, what's the surprise?

And to be honest the major issue is mostly air management and how some missions are hard.

I think if Ecco had 50% more Air Meter it would've been much more bearable.

 

[Badseed]

Dolphins use sonars, what's the surprise?

And to be honest the major issue is mostly air management and how some missions are hard.

I think if Ecco had 50% more Air Meter it would've been much more bearable.

Let me rephrase: shooting anything at clams is not really on my top 3, wait not even top 100 things i want to be doing in a game. Come on why doesn't Sega "remaster" something good instead like: Phantasy Star IV or Shining Force?

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Let me rephrase: shooting anything at clams is not really on my top 3, wait not even top 100 things I want to be doing in a game.

Doing farm work isn't something I absolutely want to do in games I play yet games such as Stardew Valley are still popular. Video games aren't all about doing the same thing (or else the medium would get boring).

You're not interested in shooting at clams with a sonar, fine but some people actually like that. Same with anything else in the tons of different games we get (from fishing to shooting at aliens).

Come on why doesn't Sega "remaster" something good instead like: Phantasy Star IV or Shining Force?

According to Gematsu:

Remastered versions of the Genesis games Ecco the Dolphin and Ecco: The Tides of Time are in the works from series creator Ed Annunziata, he announced in an Xbox Wire interview. Once those are complete, Annunziata will begin work on a new, third game in the series.

“Me and the entire original team are going to remaster the original Ecco the Dolphin and [Ecco: The] Tides of Time games,” Annunziata said. “Then we will make a new, third game with contemporary play and GPU sensibilities. Stay tuned to eccothedolphin.com.”

The website features a countdown ending on April 25, 2026 at 9:00 a.m. PT / 12:00 p.m. ET.

Further information was not announced.

so I'm assuming that it wasn't Sega's decision to do those remasters but the original dev with Sega only being the publisher.

Furthermore, a remaster can also fix the bigger flaws of older games because Phantasy Star IV still stands well on its own (while Phantasy Star I on the Switch really benefited from getting a proper dungeon map).

 

[Leon]

Let me rephrase: shooting anything at clams is not really on my top 3, wait not even top 100 things i want to be doing in a game. Come on why doesn't Sega "remaster" something good instead like: Phantasy Star IV or Shining Force?

Be glad i've grown out of my 20's dirty jokes mindset or your "shooting at clams" comment would have had a far different meaning.

so I'm assuming that it wasn't Sega's decision to do those remasters but the original dev with Sega only being the publisher.

Furthermore, a remaster can also fix the bigger flaws of older games because Phantasy Star IV still stands well on its own (while Phantasy Star I on the Switch really benefited from getting a proper dungeon map).

Sega was not the creator of the ecco games, they published them and helped with the funding, but they were developed by novocade i believe their name was, the creator of the series eventually bought the rights for the game hence why we're here now.

As for phantasy star 4, i actually disagree, 4 didn't need a dungeon map, 2 however could definitely use one.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Sega was not the creator of the ecco games, they published them and helped with the funding, but they were developed by novocade i believe their name was, the creator of the series eventually bought the rights for the game hence why we're here now.

So yeah, it's like how Monster Boy was created without the need of Sega to approve it.

As for phantasy star 4, I actually disagree, 4 didn't need a dungeon map, 2 however could definitely use one.

The ideal is them restoring the cancelled elements from Phantasy Star CD or even the first person dungeons (like in that mock-up from a magazine)

And maybe glitch fixing as well as experience optimisation.

 

[Badseed]

Be glad i've grown out of my 20's dirty jokes mindset or your "shooting at clams" comment would have had a far different meaning.


Sega was not the creator of the ecco games, they published them and helped with the funding, but they were developed by novocade i believe their name was, the creator of the series eventually bought the rights for the game hence why we're here now.

As for phantasy star 4, i actually disagree, 4 didn't need a dungeon map, 2 however could definitely use one.

its funny you say that, thats what i was totally thinking when i typed "shooting at clams".

 

[Szataniarz]

Briefly played the DC version, maybe now it's a good time to replay it.

 

[Leon]

So yeah, it's like how Monster Boy was created without the need of Sega to approve it.


The ideal is them restoring the cancelled elements from Phantasy Star CD or even the first person dungeons (like in that mock-up from a magazine)
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And maybe glitch fixing as well as experience optimisation.

The real problems are A, could they, and B would it have a pc version without denuvo as phantasy star is not big enough in the west to survive denuvo, i have severe doubts the current sega could even make a good take on the original games at this point since they seem to have completely forgotten them.
As for denuvo it's pretty much guaranteed so it would fail on pc, meaning it would have to rely on console sales to succeed, the problem with that is of course that consoles are slowly dying and have been over the last decade and unless things change soon, might become too barren to even make such a game a success.

Said this before but phantasy star 4 was my favorite game for over 20 years only finally being beaten by ys 8, so it's not like i want either of these to be right but let's not kid ourselves, the current sega is not the sega of a decade ago let alone 30 years ago.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

The real problems are A, could they, and B would it have a pc version without denuvo as phantasy star is not big enough in the west to survive denuvo, i have severe doubts the current sega could even make a good take on the original games at this point since they seem to have completely forgotten them.

I don't see the point of Denuvo on indie and smaller games.

But seeing New Genesis I do agree that Sega has lost sight about what to do with the franchise.

the current sega is not the sega of a decade ago let alone 30 years ago.

Or even the one from the Dreamcast era either.

 

[C-MS]

Briefly played the DC version, maybe now it's a good time to replay it.

I saw that in a video. So, that means they are doing a 4th game or what if there was already a Ecco game for the Dreamcast?

Editado:

I was looking in the Repo to confirm what I say and they even ported that third game to the PS2, and there is even a Ecco Jr. game for the Mega Drive! That means the new game will be 5! Did Sega forget their story so hard!?

 

[strawberry29]

omg the way my jaw dropped...