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i know there are no pc 98 roms here but i ask anyway
if the title isn't clear enough: i'm looking for someone who can make a proper dump of an "obscure" pc 98 game

i can't do it myself because my emulation skills and the effort i'm willing to put into playing old games are limited to drag and drop load files and clicking on reset
 
Any PC (commodore, amiga and this) emulation is not as drag-and-drop as any console emulation. Usually the files are diskette dumps either as an image or as an folder.
I did make a setup for PC98 with my retroarch, it does need "bios" and such files for nekokai to work right, and games generally work as likely captured HDD installation "captures" in .hdi or PC98 diskette images in .fdi.

My-Abandonware or [Link removed] should have what you want to find, hopefully. Neo Kobe as far as I understand is the most "respected" source for PC88/98 platforms.
 
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Any PC (commodore, amiga and this) emulation is not as drag-and-drop as any console emulation. Usually the files are diskette dumps either as an image or as an folder.
I did make a setup for PC98 with my retroarch, it does need "bios" and such files for nekokai to work right, and games generally work as likely captured HDD installation "captures" in .hdi or PC98 diskette images in .fdi.

My-Abandonware or [Link removed] should have what you want to find, hopefully. Neo Kobe as far as I understand is the most "respected" source for PC88/98 platforms.
i use neko project 2 and already have the pc 98 games from the neo kobe collection

and they are in user friendly hdi/fdi format. just drag and drop the games into a game folder and load them wiht neko project 2, the hdi games are loadet in "Harddisk" and fdi go in fdd1 and fdd2 that's easy enough for me

here's a guide for anyone interested https://gang-fight.com/projects/98faq/

back to the topic:
the "obscure" game i can't run the easy way is this [Link removed]

its in hfe/scp format which is some real old crap and has no system files
means the uploader this [Link removed] didn't instal or "dump" the game on a disk first or something

so i ask again can someone do a proper dump of this game, one that runs on neko project 2?
 
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Have you tried DOSBox-X?

i did try using dosbox a long time ago but it was too much work around, it also looks like old crap...
i prefer neko project 2 its easy to use and i run the emulators on my win 10 laptop

all i need is a working/dumped system file. i know this much because a bro named "gd56223" already did it for this game from the same developer [Link removed]
been trying to contact him ever since...

by the way, i collect all kinds of old games no matter how "obscure" they are
 
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i did try using dosbox a long time ago but it was too much work around, it also looks like old crap...
i prefer neko project 2 its easy to use and i run the emulators on my win 10 laptop

all i need is a working/dumped system file. i know this much because a bro named "gd56223" already did it for this game from the same developer https://archive.org/details/oura-pc98
been trying to contact him ever since...

by the way, i collect all kinds of old games no matter how "obscure" they are
So, the issue is this game requires MS dos as jumping off point, much like amiga workbench is required by some games or MS-Dos is needed in general with IBM-PC's. There is no system files because the game d88 disks are not bootable. There is FAT12 partition, autoexec and other files on disk 1 and it does work. I myself have not used neko project 2 kai (and I try to use the one built into retroarch) much so I have no idea how to enable HDD right. Could not figure out how to make a HDI image how to install MSdos to it from 6.2 images nothing, but the game does work and goes into basic jumping off UI if you boot MSdos from A: and then swap disk 1 to A:. For me it likely messages about going to 2fdd mode as FD+HD is another mode (so, floppy + hard disk) and this stumped me as I am not sure can I just make an empty file name it HDI and hope for the best with neko project.
Only things on the menu were a message of some kind and userdisk format and likely some sort of instructions how the game could work from there but my japanese is way too basic to figure out what the instructions specifically are.

Still, I found a version of bootable msdos 5.X NEC image that boots fine in neko project II, and from that DOS interface jump to what you need to do. if you know japanese enough to figure it out, good, if not and you needed this game to boot easy; It ain't booting easy.

The dumps are not, as far as I can tell, not bad. There is no system files because there is no system files, that is just how it goes. Someone could make it easier by setting up FD+HD mode correctly with a HDI and setting up MS-Dos and then the game onto that drive for double legal infringement and make a ready made HDD image with DOS and the game installed. I assume the disks are still needed to some capacity but sorry, that is all I could gather from trying way too hard for something like this.
 
what you're saying is that the game somehow works with dosbox
did you also use this dosbox x? https://dosbox-x.com/

and for neko project i would need a "ready made HDD image with DOS and the game installed"
how much would i have to pay you to make one?
 
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what you're saying is that the game somehow works with dosbox
did you also use this dosbox x? https://dosbox-x.com/

and for neko project i would need a "ready made HDD image with DOS and the game installed"
how much would i have to pay you to make one?
I used Neko Project ii. I just booted it to dos. PC98, if you look into the name, is a PC, the first two letters give it away. PC98 uses some same stuff like x86 compatible processors (at first, likely NEC's own clone, I seen one myself in a Zenith once) and other NEC's own hardware, but it is PC, it has x86 CPU, and it has MS-DOS licensed. You do not need DosBox to run DOS, you just need DOS, but DOSbox like the name implies includes a likely open source reimplementation of MS-DOS. Older machines especially used to boot MS-DOS from a diskette and then when it is running you just swap discs you need to use as the OS resides in memory. Like said, I tried to figure out how to make Neko Project ii kai look like a FD+HD instead of 2FD but I could not get to that, I could not get DOS 6 installer or the game's own setups detect any HDD even if I tried to mount IDE1 and there someone who knows this stuff better or a good tutorial is needed, which was already a lot of work as is figuring out how to setup a smut game on Japanese computer platform entirely in Japanese. Like said, if you find one of those NEC MS-DOS disk images that is a booter, I found one for 5.0a-h by NEC for PC-9800 specifically.

TL;DR: You just can boot DOS on a PC98 and thus NekoProject, you just need DOS. I have to see if I can help you any more but like said I am unaware how to setup NekoProject and the language barrier is bit high trying to figure out how stuff works. Very unique, especially user discs that is very common in Japanese PC games throughout. I first managed to format the actual game images with it's setup which was fun. If you look at the box scan too, it says MS-DOS 2.11 Required (?) and likely something about the 2FD or FD+HD operation.

I also give up hard since I cannot make heads and tails what the emulator is doing. sometimes disk images I have not even inserted show up in B drive, sometimes FDD1 shows up as B sometimes FDD2 and so much more confusion in trying to figure out a usable PC thing with NekoKai.
This game is not easy to setup, if you are not willing to figure out or find a ready made HDD image with MS-DOS and everything then booting the game from the RIGHT A: drive path (for me, for whatever reason, the mounted HDD became A: drive so that broke everything I could attempt) - This game is very particular in how it is run and setup and it leans on the MS-DOS. It is not easy, I give up after I cannot make Neko Project itself function in any logical manner before there can be even an attempt, for some obscure smut game.
 
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ok so you need a hdd with dos on it
how about this "YAHDI" https://gang-fight.com/projects/98faq/#yahdi https://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=5463.0

and just to be clear: this dosbox x cant run the game or can it?
I dunno, likely it can. Nekoproject can too but it does not include a simulated MS-Dos environment, you bring that yourself like with a real PC98 from separate source. DosBox-X or whatever sounds like it can but I have not tested, all I can for sure say that the game requires MS-DOS 2.11 and that is even stated on the box, and the dump as far as can be seen is not incomplete, the d88 images seem to work fine with Neko Project II Kai if you boot from DOS. Mind you I have not used these emulators much at all before yesterday when I from whim tested out some stuff based on my initial assumption DOS might be required which was correct but I cannot do anything else since I do not read japanese that well.
 
i know there are no pc 98 roms here but i ask anyway
if the title isn't clear enough: i'm looking for someone who can make a proper dump of an "obscure" pc 98 game

i can't do it myself because my emulation skills and the effort i'm willing to put into playing old games are limited to drag and drop load files and clicking on reset
Which disk images need to be converted?
Here some info, HxC is a floppy disk drive emulator

MAME has a floppy disk tool "floptool"
.mfi is a mame floppy image

Regarding .scp
 
This dude post crap ton of PC-98 games sadly he honestly host his recent upload but if email him he gladly send you a zip of the game. Im glad becuse thanks to him I got the Slayer PC-98 by just emailing him. just google PC98 also archive org has allot.
 
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This dude post crap ton of PC-98 games sadly he honestly host his recent upload but if email him he gladly send you a zip of the game. Im glad becuse thanks to him I got the Slayer PC-98 by just emailing him.
Just the disk conversion alone is a major pain, command line based. Has to be an easier way batch file based.
 
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Which disk images need to be converted?
Here some info, HxC is a floppy disk drive emulator

MAME has a floppy disk tool "floptool"
.mfi is a mame floppy image

Regarding .scp
The issue was not a lack of proper dump. There is a NUMBER of different formats japanese PC platform enthusiasts use for real hardware and emulation, out of which d88 is one. The guy "who did not make a proper dump" made even SCP files that I could google and understand fast what they are about (basically something akin to domesday raw signal dumps from the medium). The issue is not even lack of proper dumps the issue is bepcak since the game is not a simple booter in a single file but a PC98 game that needs to run from MS-DOS, the dumps as far as I can tell are proper I just cannot figure out anything else about the game.
The D88's are fine, they just error with no system files error if attempting to run without MS-DOS and even when run from MS-DOS the game is quite particular how it should be run and I cannot make any high sense how it is supposed to go down since my Japanese is somewhat limited and retroarch neko project ii kai does not want to be entirely logical in it's operation for me. I think... Thought "yeah it needs MS-DOS you can go forward from there" is enough.
 
The issue was not a lack of proper dump. There is a NUMBER of different formats japanese PC platform enthusiasts use for real hardware and emulation, out of which d88 is one. The guy "who did not make a proper dump" made even SCP files that I could google and understand fast what they are about (basically something akin to domesday raw signal dumps from the medium). The issue is not even lack of proper dumps the issue is bepcak since the game is not a simple booter in a single file but a PC98 game that needs to run from MS-DOS, the dumps as far as I can tell are proper I just cannot figure out anything else about the game.
The D88's are fine, they just error with no system files error if attempting to run without MS-DOS and even when run from MS-DOS the game is quite particular how it should be run and I cannot make any high sense how it is supposed to go down since my Japanese is somewhat limited and retroarch neko project ii kai does not want to be entirely logical in it's operation for me. I think... Thought "yeah it needs MS-DOS you can go forward from there" is enough.
This exist

Also found this https://forums.atariage.com/topic/231835-a8rawconv-a-new-raw-disk-conversion-utility/
Checkout pages 14 & 15
 
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This exist

Also found this https://forums.atariage.com/topic/231835-a8rawconv-a-new-raw-disk-conversion-utility/
Checkout pages 14 & 15
It still is not an issue of the dump. The originally linked archive.org upload had several formats for the disks out of which d88, usable in most PC98 (also PC88) emulators and such. The dump is good, and there is no need for reconversion from the source, the issue is just needing MS-DOS to boot and play the game that is somewhat uncommon in NEC PC's. I just could not get through setup process because I do not know about PC98 platform and emulators enough to get them work logically, and some language barrier on top of it too. in General the game needs bit more "PC operation" to get running but the .d88 files are fine as far as I can tell, no need for reconversion from the SCP.
 
It still is not an issue of the dump. The originally linked archive.org upload had several formats for the disks out of which d88, usable in most PC98 (also PC88) emulators and such. The dump is good, and there is no need for reconversion from the source, the issue is just needing MS-DOS to boot and play the game that is somewhat uncommon in NEC PC's. I just could not get through setup process because I do not know about PC98 platform and emulators enough to get them work logically, and some language barrier on top of it too. in General the game needs bit more "PC operation" to get running but the .d88 files are fine as far as I can tell, no need for reconversion from the SCP.
Understood, OP needs to learn the commands & emulation process to execute the game. Either Dosbox-X or other libretro emulator
 
Understood, OP needs to learn the commands & emulation process to execute the game. Either Dosbox-X or other libretro emulator
Just DOS really. DOS booter for PC98, I found an image for 5.0 that worked fine is needed. There is not really other libretro emulators there, and I am not even sure if he is using one. Offered up even money if someone makes a HDD image file with the game installed and likely autoexecs it but I feel I did enough for game I am not personally interested in, but did learn slightly more about operating neko project if I ever do want to play rusty or something else.
 
Just DOS really. DOS booter for PC98, I found an image for 5.0 that worked fine is needed. There is not really other libretro emulators there, and I am not even sure if he is using one. Offered up even money if someone makes a HDD image file with the game installed and likely autoexecs it but I feel I did enough for game I am not personally interested in, but did learn slightly more about operating neko project if I ever do want to play rusty or something else.
 
Understood, OP needs to learn the commands & emulation process to execute the game. Either Dosbox-X or other libretro emulator
before i try dosbox again, i need a confirmation that the game actually works on dosbox x
like a in game screenshot or something

a step by step guide would be nice to
and i mean a simple and understandable guide
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by the way
Just DOS really. DOS booter for PC98, I found an image for 5.0 that worked fine is needed. There is not really other libretro emulators there, and I am not even sure if he is using one. Offered up even money if someone makes a HDD image file with the game installed and likely autoexecs it but I feel I did enough for game I am not personally interested in, but did learn slightly more about operating neko project if I ever do want to play rusty or something else.

these are the emulators i currently have theyre all easy to use
RMG: n64
Dolphin: CG, Wii
cemu: wiI u
Ryujinx: wiI u/ Switch
duckstation: ps1
PCSX2: ps2
rpcs3: ps3
ppsspp: psp
FinalBurn Neo: Neo Geo
flycast: dream cast
blastem: SEGA Genesis
snes9x: SNES
xemu: xbox

i also use neko project 2 for pc 98 games if that counts...
speaking of pc games i have a win7 pc and a win 10 laptop to
 
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i said i ned "a confirmation first like a in game screnshot"

and that site mentions the game needs to be HDI or FDD images not d88 or hfe/scp

i mean if it were hdi/fdd i could just use neko....
 
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i said i ned "a confirmation first like a in game screnshot"

and that site mentions the game needs to be HDI or FDD images not d88 or hfe/scp

i mean if it were hdi/fdd i could just use neko....
@RepoOnly Mentioned something about emailing someone, I don't know the specifics about that, DM him about that.
 
@RepoOnly Mentioned something about emailing someone, I don't know the specifics about that, DM him about that.
why? can't you take a screenshot or does the game not work on dosbox after all?

you do know what a screenshot is right?
something like this:
Screenshot - 2025_06_02 , 22_42_10.jpg

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Sumea can you post a screenshot to prove that you got the game running, because honestly i don't believe it

 
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