Do young people still read books these days?

[happymasksalesman]

It doesn't help that overall the language, math, physical skills, etc of all school levels have been constantly lowering(where I live), partially because of bad parenting, lowering standards in schools, and successive bad governments(from both political spectrums).

Well there is some words to turn exams to online with moblie and far teaching people.
I think they are goods but seriously!only time we were safe from random teachers thoughts! In past they say "sleep soon to wake up early" they say it still but can they stop sending home works in 1 am? This become so annoying and enemy of sleep! Are they work for netflix or what?(note: Netflix's owner said our only enemy is people sleep now!)

 

[Grumpy_Old_Man]

Well there is some words to turn exams to online with moblie and far teaching people.
I think they are goods but seriously!only time we were safe from random teachers thoughts! In past they say "sleep soon to wake up early" they say it still but can they stop sending home works in 1 am? This become so annoying and enemy of sleep! Are they work for netflix or what?(note: Netflix's owner said our only enemy is people sleep now!)

You can study online, but for that you need both a motivated student, willing to do research on its own and a teacher that can ignite the "passion for learning", considering a lot of teachers are what I call "textbook teachers"(repeat what i say, with no critical thought), is rather hard to motivate anyone.

 

[happymasksalesman]

textbook teachers

Well i heard this from a teacher "we want to cancel class. We know he reading from some paper on his briefcase which he put it on table.
We try it out from window and he said"oh where is my ....well we finish class right now! THANKS FOR PARTICIPATING!"

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

Yessss there is few books i wanna read in the future

Fiction/entertainment/literature : Ingenious Gentleman Don Quixote of La Mancha , WarCraft: rise of the horde , day of the dragon , the last guardian , lord of the clans , rise of the lich king , Lords of the rings books , the Greek literature stuff like the odyssey and the iliad , final fantasy 2 novel (maybe i learn Japanese and translate it myself cuz no version other than Japanese one exists)

Poltical/real life books: the communist manifesto , mein kempf.

Arabic books: صحيح بخاري ، رسالة الغفران

 

[EthyLongHair]

i believe younger generations begin to slowly drift away from literature, but literature doesnt end at novels and such. Manga and comics are also literature, which younger kids are more prone to reading. but yea, i guess younger generations are slowly losing the interest to read books since they can watch videos or TV shows to entertain themselves. the thing is, you ought to be put into the world of books to start having the urge to pick one up. my old man used to keep telling me to read books, and he would make me stay in front of him and ask me to summerize what i have read. we had this schedule on summer breaks: i would come to his work in the morning, read a bit until lunch. we would go to the biig supermarket in front of his work that used to make sandwiches in the middle of the shop and get two sandwiches. we would eat that and walk a bit (he worked near the sea so we would sit there and look at it) then walk back to his work and i would lay on his leather couch and keep reading. we would go home together on his car and the road would take a bit so we would speak about what i read that day. i used to think "i wish i was at home where i could play games instead of being forced to read" but now i kinda wish we could do that again. if he hadnt made me read books so much, i wouldnt be me. i kinda miss that schedule honestly. thanks old man for all you have done for me, love ya pops!! <3

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honestly this post made me want to appreciate my family more and maybe post about them on my profile lol, i was a lucky kid

 

[jiyuuboyetsvi]

im 28 and just finished rereading one of my favourite books, is that considered young? ;w;
(its not, im reminded of my mortality every day via social media LMAO)

 

[Android 18]

Poltical/real life books: the communist manifesto , mein kempf.

Lmfao not Mein Kampf.....

 

[Ikagura]

Young is vague, to someone in their 50's if you're 30 you're still fairly young. It's quite relative.

Maybe we should go for age groups but then again I can hardly see many reading books that aren't mandatory for school (if there are still some)...

Manga and comics are also literature

That's a bit of a debate there:

I can somewhat understand the "literary" aspect of Seinens and Graphic novels but most of the time superhero comics and shonens are more about showing action than talking.

I'd even argue that books that have a lot of dialogues are also easier to read than the "descriptive" ones.

Sadly school isn't really helping people to want to read as the classics are either boring to them (I remember how many are getting fed up by Shakespeare simply because of how many classes are taken to analyse his text) or that some are against it because of social inequalities or when parents are not fully speaking the country's language (I read that in middle and lower class households reading books is less present and for parents that cannot fully read english it's making it harder for the student to get help when reading).

Text analysis is interesting to understand some of the classics but it's also boring as you're spending more time on the same page rather than reading the full thing.

You can study online, but for that you need both a motivated student, willing to do research on its own and a teacher that can ignite the "passion for learning", considering a lot of teachers are what I call "textbook teachers"(repeat what i say, with no critical thought), is rather hard to motivate anyone.

I think I kinda understand why some teachers are being textbook one rather than trying to bother themselves when the salary will be the same regardless. Some can just not handle troublesome students and they're not paid a lot nor have learnt how to handle them...

 

[Grumpy_Old_Man]

I think I kinda understand why some teachers are being textbook one rather than trying to bother themselves when the salary will be the same regardless. Some can just not handle troublesome students and they're not paid a lot nor have learnt how to handle them...

Good point... Money is an important factor, with teacher salaries you can barely make a living, much less if you have a family to maintain. You have long hours(between 9 to 11), unmotivated kids, parents and students that often get violent, because you give their "perfect kid" some bad grade or a citation for violence(Blades are common here and occasionally firearms).
Another problem in my land is that teachers are often stimulating violence and absenteeism, by promoting certain political views. Drug cartels aren't helping much, I think.

 

[Android 18]

That's a bit of a debate there:

I can somewhat understand the "literary" aspect of Seinens and Graphic novels but most of the time superhero comics and shonens are more about showing action than talking.

I'd even argue that books that have a lot of dialogues are also easier to read than the "descriptive" ones.

Yeah, comics/manga/etc are more 'onboarding' texts on the journey to literacy rather than literature and/of themselves. They're unquestionably art, but they are a small step on the journey that we are supposed to take towards adult, mature, complex texts that actively encourage cultural development - we are not meant to simply hang out with these books forever as we age and become more mature people.

 

[Fray Guillermo]

No idea, I don't know young people, all my friends are already over 30 or approaching

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

Lmfao not Mein Kampf.....

Getting to know what ramblings an insane man and his idealogy that will reshape the world and Europe is interesting what's wrong with reading such things?

 

[MasterEn]

Getting to know what ramblings an insane man and his idealogy that will reshape the world and Europe is interesting what's wrong with reading such things?

nothing. but some people think that another one of him will rise up if exposed to such things. considering how weirdly stupid and/or naive humans can be, it is an argument that has some merit.

 

[Fray Guillermo]

Getting to know what ramblings an insane man and his idealogy that will reshape the world and Europe is interesting what's wrong with reading such things?

Nothing wrong, it's an important piece of history, although I've no interest in reading it and have been told that it's quite rambly and repetitive

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

nothing. but some people think that another one of him will rise up if exposed to such things. considering how weirdly stupid and/or naive humans can be, it is an argument that has some merit.

The dangers are understood i think the idealogy is based off wrong basis anyway , also I don't have the speaking capabilities of adolf so i can't rally people behind me even IF i wanted to.

In my opinion reading what these people thought was the truth is interesting cuz you get to see why they did what they did and how they justified it , helps us understand it thus we can prevent it and help others from not falling for it way better than making everyone think they can't be as evil as adolf or won't follow him if they were German around that time.

 

[MasterEn]

The dangers are understood i think the idealogy is based off wrong basis anyway , also I don't have the speaking capabilities of adolf so i can't rally people behind me even IF i wanted to.

In my opinion reading what these people thought was the truth is interesting cuz you get to see why they did what they did and how they justified it , helps us understand it thus we can prevent it and help others from not falling for it way better than making everyone think they can't be as evil as adolf or won't follow him if they were German around that time.

it is a good idea to understand what happened in the past. a fun fact that i learned about adolf is that he wanted to be a painter, but apparently wasn't good at it.
i suspect that this is what might have triggered the "anything can be art" stuff that people still use today.
unfortunately, from what i've seen and heard lately, no one would have much success in deterring people from unintentionally following those who would willingly spread evil and despair across the world.
i think it would be best to let this small arc of this thread end. going further into politics would most likely get this thread closed.

 

[Android 18]

Getting to know what ramblings an insane man and his idealogy that will reshape the world and Europe is interesting what's wrong with reading such things?

The thing with Mein Kampf is that there is little to gain from reading it in full, outside of close academic study - the key tenets of Hitler are very clear and obvious from the first three pages, with little new information OR prose, as he was infamously a poor writer from both intellectual and creative lenses. You would become far smarter after reading a selection of passages with a good teacher than you would be after reading the entire book: the book is an incoherent collection of rambling and ravings that are not only highly repetitive, they become actively useless to read after a while because you’re seeing the manifesto of syphilis and meth addiction. In short, to understand the guy you can pretty much take the previous 80 years of commentary at face value - much more is to be gained from reading commentary on him & Nazism than Mein Kampf.

I think a lot of people get this idea that in order to be smart and cultured, they have to read every historically important work they’ve ever heard of. That is not the case. Being smart and literate is also about being selective with what you take in, and choosing when it is better to take in the body of criticism about a topic rather than engaging with the root work. Selectivity is a foundation of creativity!