Do you think it's controversial/acceptable if someone decides not to spend any kind of money on games anymore?

[EmuCarnival]

 

[Jayonnaise6105]

I believe he got the Horny Trinity Edition, containing all 3 Gal Gun games for Switch. The edition is cool but it was only aimed for people who had the Nintendo console. I was tempted, but I already had them for PS4.

Yeah...you just remembered me that's the only game I am missing in the franchise. In my case it's almost the norm, as I use to get the PS4 version of all games, and here in Europe we have some stupid conflict against PS4 and only PS5 physical copies arrive, so I have to buy the games imported anyways. I hope to be able to buy it before end of year :(

Oh, that would make more sense then if it was a collector's edition! I just have the 3 Gal Gun games separately.

I hope you can get your physical copy soon!

 

[qw90700]

'Two Hours not being enough' is just sort of... greediness imo. Either you are into the game after two hours, or you aren't.

All of your examples of 'not wanting to gamble' or 'pirating a movie before going to the theater' is flat out stealing. Factually. You can justify it to yourself morally, but it doesn't change what you are doing. That's not a difference in opinion, it is you making an excuse for something you know is wrong.

You are acting as if you are better than everyone else, that your money is more important than everyone else's is so you deserve to pirate something first. If everyone had your attitude, games, movies, art in general would essentially cease to exist at the level they currently do because they wouldn't have the funding. It's fine for you to accept that fact and do it anyway, but it makes you part of the problem, like or not.

As I said, I too pirate. I do the same thing you do where I pirate games I'm not sure about and then buy them later if I want them enough to own a copy, but that doesn't mean it isn't wrong xD

I'm also not 'imposing morality'. The question was asked in the topic and I'm sharing my opinion. I didn't open a topic just to preach or report this site to Nintendo for a takedown or something xD. I also, at no point told people to STOP pirating. I just like people to understand the realities of what they are doing. You yourself admitted that you are a pirate regardless of the consequences to the industry. You've made your decision. 'It benefits me so I don't care.' It is a selfish decision, one that I to take part in, as I to am selfish. People tend to get butthurt when it is pointed out to them that they are, in fact, being selfish. They want the rewards without facing the reality of the situation, and when they are faced with the reality, they can either get upset by it, or embrace it. As you yourself admitted, you are a criminal! We all are here. It is what it is.

*continues to play bowling* lolol

 

[ShadowsofCreationAga]

*continues to play bowling* lolol

I need to see that freakin' movie man >.> Maybe I will pirate it!

 

[EmuCarnival]

Noooo!! don't pirate the vie! You'll hurt the super duper rich media industry!

 

[qw90700]

I need to see that freakin' movie man >.> Maybe I will pirate it!

Thanks to piracy I could watch and learn how good the movie is because the trailer wasn't enough so afterwards I bought the movie!!!

Piracy: 1,
"Piracy killing da industry": 0.
lolol

 

[MasterEn]

And by that I mean: don't buy on sale, don't buy indie games, don't play free-to-play games, don't save money to buy a game or are too poor and can't anyway. The person has the "means" to make any purchase and will continue playing/acquiring games, but won't spend a single cent on them whatsoever.

there's no reason to spend money on something if you don't find it interesting. i see no problem with someone skipping out on a game if they don't like it or it's not interesting to them.

 

[Jayonnaise6105]

Thanks to piracy I could watch and learn how good the movie because the trailer wasn't enough so afterwards I bought the movie!!!

Piracy: 1,
"Piracy killing da industry": 0.
lolol

A friend showed me the 2003 film Oldboy a while back and I went on to purchase it twice. Although, the first DVD release I bought was garbage!
You could hardly see anything with how poorly contrasted the lighting was. It was practically a black screen throughout the movie.
The Blu-Ray was much better though.
You don't always get a better product by paying for it, but I have definitely bought stuff after having experienced it for free.

 

[qw90700]

there's no reason to spend money on something if you don't find it interesting. i see no problem with someone skipping out on a game if they don't like it or it's not interesting to them.

And it's okay to steal whatever you want. Nothing is right or wrong unless you care to decide between one of them therefore sense of morality is just a mental hindrance of subjective BS!!!

For example once I stole Nintendo's building like I give a shit how "evil" it may be!!!:

lolol

 

[tuesday]

You should always steal video games.

Not because you want to play them but because it's cool as hell

 

[qw90700]

You don't always get a better product by paying for it, but I have definitely bought stuff after having experienced it for free.

Yep. After all people tend to pay for what they love so the best form of anti-piracy and making people pay for the product and service is offering so good shit people would be ashamed to use it for free and if they stole it they would go to the nearest church or something and repent for their sins!!! lolol

So I buy what I love but then if the product I stole turns out to be shit then I'm honestly glad for stealing it or even "damn it's so rubbish it didn't even worth stealing it!!!" and then so many free version of paid services like Spotify made me glad using them for free instead. You can't make money without making people think you deserve it!!

And then when Nintendo even sues some random people whose legal name is "Mario" so he wanted to name his supermarket "Super Mario" it makes me extra glad I never paid anything for any Nintendo shit because paying for Nintendo means they may spend your money to sue you and/or your loved ones!!!

In the end for me this topic is not even about sense of morality, it's all about spending money wisely and especially not feeding what may be harmful to you to avoid this ironic BS lol.

 

[nobitakun]

I believe in either side. There are games I will buy by just looking info and watching gameplays and playing demos if available, for instance Silent Hill F. There are other games I need to experience before investing money on them. If a developer does a poor job you may not see it on the demo, and you don't want to spoil yourself half of the game by watching a video, you want to play it by yourself. I don't care about opinions of people when money is involved, I don't care it has best critics and userbase is happy with it. So, what remains is to download the game and play it, for instance Stellar Blade or Expedition 33. If I find they are a fine product after playing them I will buy them.

And you can sa "if I already downloaded the game and finished it, it is meaningless to pay for it". That's not applicable for me, if I like something I will buy it if I am able, because the creator deserves my respect, the same way I keep my job for working the best I can or I get fired if I do shit.

 

[Jayonnaise6105]

I believe in either side. There are games I will buy by just looking info and watching gameplays and playing demos if available, for instance Silent Hill F. There are other games I need to experience before investing money on them. If a developer does a poor job you may not see it on the demo, and you don't want to spoil yourself half of the game by watching a video, you want to play it by yourself. I don't care about opinions of people when money is involved, I don't care it has best critics and userbase is happy with it. So, what remains is to download the game and play it, for instance Stellar Blade or Expedition 33. If I find they are a fine product after playing them I will buy them.

And you can sa "if I already downloaded the game and finished it, it is meaningless to pay for it". That's not applicable for me, if I like something I will buy it if I am able, because the creator deserves my respect, the same way I keep my job for working the best I can or I get fired if I do shit.

I replay some games a bunch of times, and have even bought some of my favourites multiple times over. That being said, I hardly ever buy a game at full price anymore. Even ones I'm really looking forward to.

 

[Clippy]

I replay some games a bunch of times, and have even bought some of my favourites multiple times over. That being said, I hardly ever buy a game at full price anymore. Even ones I'm really looking forward to.

 

[qw90700]

"if I already downloaded the game and finished it, it is meaningless to pay for it".

Well where companies fail to understand and care is if people buy a game they would wanna keep using it. So when Ubisoft removed The Crew 1 from library and on top of it they said "Games were never meant to be forever" and "Please delete the games we ask you to do" and whatnot BS it made people realize how "bad" online-forced nature of games are because they believe when they buy a game, despite it "exist" in their digital library it's like "buying a table" so you can use it "for a long time" but it actually means "paying for a license to use the product until you are not allowed to" that's pretty much like a movie ticket that has longer expiry date lol. So the nature of "if Steam had gone offline we are not legally obligated to supply you the game you can't access anymore" pushed to "We just don't want you to play this game anymore so we will remove the game from your library after it released 2 years ago and delete any copy of the file you have because otherwise will be stealing" BS.

So when the BS is like this, again this is not about sense of morality, this is when they feel entitled to waste your money it's when you gotta just stand up and stop paying for certain companies like Ubisoft and Nintendo who makes fun with customers just so their standards won't be the usual BS of legal ground for wasting your money by enforcing only low quality BS available to be bought for whatever can be sold by companies. If companies make people their bitch rest of the world will do the same too so gotta just put a big "hell no" before this "snake grows bigger".

Sure buy the game you want but at least avoid the companies that killing the industry that piracy cannot inflict that much damage to the industry lol. Naturally when you delete game from library you will lose huge amount of customers. You may still make profit but your profit would be way reduced than how much people who would decide not to buy the game because they pirated it. Also when companies BS piracy will naturally increase further. That's the way it's, but then Ubisoft and Nintendo would play the victim card ayy lmao. Naturally these companies are nothing with customers so as customers let's show them what "customer" means!!!!!!

 

[Jayonnaise6105]

Well where companies fail to understand and care is if people buy a game they would wanna keep using it. So when Ubisoft removed The Crew 1 from library and on top of it they said "Games were never meant to be forever" and "Please delete the games we ask you to do" and whatnot BS it made people realize how "bad" online-forced nature of games are because they believe when they buy a game, despite it "exist" in their digital library it's like "buying a table" so you can use it "for a long time" but it actually means "paying for a license to use the product until you are not allowed to" that's pretty much like a movie ticket that has longer expiry date lol. So the nature of "if Steam had gone offline we are not legally obligated to supply you the game you can't access anymore" pushed to "We just don't want you to play this game anymore so we will remove the game from your library after it released 2 years ago and delete any copy of the file you have because otherwise will be stealing" BS.

So when the BS is like this, again this is not about sense of morality, this is when they feel entitled to waste your money it's when you gotta just stand up and stop paying for certain companies like Ubisoft and Nintendo who makes fun with customers just so their standards won't be the usual BS of legal ground for wasting your money. If companies make people their bitch rest of the world will do the same too so gotta just put a big "hell no" before this "snake grows bigger".

Sure buy the game you want but at least avoid the companies that killing the industry that piracy cannot inflict that much damage to the industry lol. Naturally when you delete game from library you will lose huge amount of customers. You may still make profit but your profit would be way reduced that how much people who would decide not to buy the game because they pirated it. Also when companies BS piracy will naturally increase further. That's the way it's, but then Ubisoft and Nintendo would play the victim card ayy lmao. Naturally these companies are nothing with customers so as customers let's show them what "customer" means!!!!!! ::fire

The Ubisoft TOS that expects you to destroy physical game copies after they stop supporting the game is wild
A good number of the games I buy lately have been from eBay, so I'm really only supporting eBay and some of its sellers in that case. There are plenty of options to legally buy a game and never actually support the people who made it or companies that published it.

 

[nobitakun]

I replay some games a bunch of times, and have even bought some of my favourites multiple times over. That being said, I hardly ever buy a game at full price anymore. Even ones I'm really looking forward to.

I fail at that :(. I usually never buy games at full price unless I want to buy a specific Limited Edition or I sense the game will be rare in no time, in such case I check availability often until I see some stores have the game out of stock, then I get it for the price it currently has.

I despise videogame distribution system industry, because it is like playing a raffle, if you skip a game it may or not become out of stock then double its price from scalpers. I prefer to pay sometimes its full price than regret of not getting it ever, because that would be my fault. It happened a few times in the past with asian releases, specially with VITA.

When I was younger I used to get on my nerves if I couldn't get a game, but nowadays I don't really care, I just feel a little sad but life goes on.

 

[qw90700]

The Ubisoft TOS that expects you to destroy physical game copies after they stop supporting the game is wild
A good number of the games I buy lately have been from eBay, so I'm really only supporting eBay and some of its sellers in that case. There are plenty of options to legally buy a game and never actually support the people who made it or companies that published it.

For example I don't even buy the game I like in 2nd hand market if I really dislike the company. For example I dislike Capcom so I didn't even buy one of my favorite game Breath of Fire 4 any way possible, but just for "functional display" purpose I pirated the game and put it into a disc -> printed out a custom cover artwork for the game's case and put it instead because its original artwork is shit -> display the game among my "favorite ones" as a reminder for what kind of "another life" I lived via video games!!! For me thus is more "intimate" so yeah I tend to design custom artworks for my favorite games lol. And I see no point to waste money on disc games because they don't have "ok life span" for me especially because of how I live and where I live so it makes sense more for me to just go cheap and put the game into a disc for a "pointless functional placeholder".

 

[Jayonnaise6105]

I fail at that :(. I usually never buy games at full price unless I want to buy a specific Limited Edition or I sense the game will be rare in no time, in such case I check availability often until I see some stores have the game out of stock, then I get it for the price it currently has.

I despise videogame distribution system industry, because it is like playing a raffle, if you skip a game it may or not become out of stock then double its price from scalpers. I prefer to pay sometimes its full price than regret of not getting it ever, because that would be my fault. It happened a few times in the past with asian releases, specially with VITA.

When I was younger I used to get on my nerves if I couldn't get a game, but nowadays I don't really care, I just feel a little sad but life goes on.

I can understand the concern of scarcity and outrageous scalping prices. I have pre-ordered a game called Hotel Barcelona recently, mainly because I am concerned it will be one of those niche games that get scalped online if I do miss out on it.

 

[nobitakun]

I can understand the concern of scarcity and outrageous scalping prices. I have pre-ordered a game called Hotel Barcelona recently, mainly because I am concerned it will be one of those niche games that get scalped online if I do miss out on it.

Totally. If distributors and developers did their homework we would have games on demand printed by batches as a regular service, so once a year every game goes through an open process of 3 months and if it reaches like 5000 preorders or more, it is printed and released for the people who preordered it after, let's say, 3-6 months. And that could be done on any platform, but depending on its physical nature it would cost differently.

 

[thecrow2313]

Who spends money on games these days? Everything is on the internet if you know the source.

 

[χKai]

It's a pirate's life for me.

 

[Jayonnaise6105]

Totally. If distributors and developers did their homework we would have games on demand printed by batches as a regular service, so once a year every game goes through an open process of 3 months and if it reaches like 5000 preorders or more, it is printed and released for the people who preordered it after, let's say, 3-6 months. And that could be done on any platform, but depending on its physical nature it would cost differently.

That's why I have a love/hate relationship with Limited Run Games. They kind of do that, but only for like a month and then that's it. I missed out on one Shantae game through them and now it's well over $1000 on eBay! I appreciate the idea of a company that pushes for physical releases, but I think they're making the scalping situation worse overall.

 

[nobitakun]

That's why I have a love/hate relationship with Limited Run Games. They kind of do that, but only for like a month and then that's it. I missed out on one Shantae game through them and now it's well over $1000 on eBay! I appreciate the idea of a company that pushes for physical releases, but I think they're making the scalping situation worse overall.

Yes if they do like LRG. But my proposition is that a company like LRG would have contracts with major developers and get their permission to print on demand. It wouldn't be LRG to choose what and when, that would be the job of the users, and the distributor would be more than happy to print thousands of copies of dozens of games every year, and also the developers / owners of the game / IP. We would never end having copies with outrageous prices, as every year it would always be another chance to reprint the game, if the number of preorders is met.

 

[Jayonnaise6105]

Yes if they do like LRG. But my proposition is that a company like LRG would have contracts with major developers and get their permission to print on demand. It wouldn't be LRG to choose what and when, that would be the job of the users, and the distributor would be more than happy to print thousands of copies of dozens of games every year, and also the developers / owners of the game / IP. We would never end having copies with outrageous prices, as every year it would always be another chance to reprint the game, if the number of preorders is met.

Yeah, I can agree with that. I think some DVDs & Blu-Rays are print-on-demand, but even then I don't think it's that common.