Anyone currently reading comics?

I've finished reading Batman the Dark Knight Returns, I really liked it (albeit some of the more "squarey"/"gridlike" pages but they're graphic novels after all).

Why is the animated movie version so hard to find?

I'm thinking about reading either Watchmen, The Last Ronin or Year One next.
 
I recently read Power Man and Iron Fist by David F. Walker and it's a really fun story with a lot of heart. I need to pick up Absolute Batman since I'm hearing great things about it. Also, I'm sure people mentioned it enough already but Skybound's Transformers is GREAT.
Side note to everyone who hasn't read it yet, please read IDW's Transformers More Than Meets The Eye (And later on Lost Light)
Side note side note, please also read Matt Fraction and David Aja's Hawkeye My Life as a Weapon if you haven't. It's legit some of the greatest modern day Marvel.

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I recently read Power Man and Iron Fist by David F. Walker and it's a really fun story with a lot of heart. I need to pick up Absolute Batman since I'm hearing great things about it. Also, I'm sure people mentioned it enough already but Skybound's Transformers is GREAT.
Side note to everyone who hasn't read it yet, please read IDW's Transformers More Than Meets The Eye (And later on Lost Light)
Side note side note, please also read Matt Fraction and David Aja's Hawkeye My Life as a Weapon if you haven't. It's legit some of the greatest modern day Marvel.

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I'll check out the hawkeye comic. I've seen some panels here and there and it sounds like a very nice read.

On my end, I've been reading all the post-krakoa X-Men stuff that's been releasing and I've been enjoying it thus far. There's some short series that I've liked more than others and some I've been putting aside until I have caught up with the rest, yes, but there's a series for everyone.

Probably one of my favourite ones is Nyx. I think it's doing a nice job of tackling the mutant situation post-krakoa from a more social point of view, kind of like Exceptional X-Men is doing too! While the main teams seem to focus on a bigger plot, it's cool to have something with such a different vibe happening too.
 
I've been reading all the post-krakoa X-Men stuff
I'm looking to read that after I finish New X-Men, I've heard it's some really good stuff.

I'll check out the hawkeye comic. I've seen some panels here and there and it sounds like a very nice read.
It's so much fun, I won't say anything so as not to spoil but trust me it's just a whole lot of fun from start to finish, and it's a pretty short and quick read. I loved it so much I bought it physically which I only do with my favourite comics. (It's a bit difficult to buy stuff like this where I live)
 
I'm looking to read that after I finish New X-Men, I've heard it's some really good stuff.


It's so much fun, I won't say anything so as not to spoil but trust me it's just a whole lot of fun from start to finish, and it's a pretty short and quick read. I loved it so much I bought it physically which I only do with my favourite comics. (It's a bit difficult to buy stuff like this where I live)
I'll report back when I've read it then haha.

Also, New X-men? The Grant Morrison ones, right? I love that series! It's so good I've thought about getting a physical copy, too, but... It's too big and expensive ?
 
I recently read Power Man and Iron Fist by David F. Walker and it's a really fun story with a lot of heart. I need to pick up Absolute Batman since I'm hearing great things about it. Also, I'm sure people mentioned it enough already but Skybound's Transformers is GREAT.
Side note to everyone who hasn't read it yet, please read IDW's Transformers More Than Meets The Eye (And later on Lost Light)
Side note side note, please also read Matt Fraction and David Aja's Hawkeye My Life as a Weapon if you haven't. It's legit some of the greatest modern day Marvel.

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Fraction and Aja's Hawkeye is so good I think they've retroactively obliterated the old version of the character, everyone just seems to agree it's better than the old Stan Lee carnival barker with his "Hop along, Tall Socks!" routine.

I agree so much about Power Man and Iron Fist, Greene's artwork was great, and it's the rare take on the characters that isn't completely drowning in uh...let's call it "The 70's by way of Quentin Tarantino".

(Absolute Batman is a blast so far, it's structured a fair bit like an action movie, but it's a hell of a fun movie.)
I'll check out the hawkeye comic. I've seen some panels here and there and it sounds like a very nice read.

On my end, I've been reading all the post-krakoa X-Men stuff that's been releasing and I've been enjoying it thus far. There's some short series that I've liked more than others and some I've been putting aside until I have caught up with the rest, yes, but there's a series for everyone.

Probably one of my favourite ones is Nyx. I think it's doing a nice job of tackling the mutant situation post-krakoa from a more social point of view, kind of like Exceptional X-Men is doing too! While the main teams seem to focus on a bigger plot, it's cool to have something with such a different vibe happening too.
You're absolutely right, NYX and Exceptional (and Sentinels, in my opinion) have a much more interesting take on post-krakoan life, the big teams have been awfully "business as usual", reminds me of the late 90's. (Uncanny being the exception, but I've always enjoyed Gail Simone's writing, and I love her Rogue.)

Yeah, pretty good honestly. Even though the art is... questionable a lot of the time, the story is really well written and interesting.
Ah, it's such a good run! Probably the most influential X-Men series too (after Claremont) and introduced some great lasting characters like Quentin Quire and Fantomex. Hope you have fun finishing it!
 
When the Krakoa run of X-Men started with House of X/Powers of X I was fully on board, I thought it was an incredible re-contextualization of the X-Men mythos and also a great time to hop on as a new reader. But as Hickman went hands-off on the follow-up books they got worse and worse, and the conclusion to the Krakoa era was a disaster (though I agree that it needed to end).

I haven't really kept up with the post-Krakoa books, but from what I've seen on Twitter and Youtube it doesn't look too promising. If there's a good current X-Men book please let me know though.
 
I've finished reading Batman the Dark Knight Returns, I really liked it (albeit some of the more "squarey"/"gridlike" pages but they're graphic novels after all).

Why is the animated movie version so hard to find?

I'm thinking about reading either Watchmen, The Last Ronin or Year One next.
So I've finished The Last Ronin two days ago and I think I'll either read The Killing Joke (for the first time in 15 years) or go for Watchmen.
 
Holy shit, Dylan Dog. Dude, I have a collection of these. This is my childhood. I'm still buying them as the years go by, I bought "...e cerene tornerai", "La magnifica creatura" and "Cose dell'altro mondo" a year ago. These comics are so underrated and so much fun. I have some Zagor, Alan Ford and Martin Mystery. I'm not as big of a fan of those as I am of Dylan Dog though, I've got so many Dylan Dog comics and I don't think I'll stop collecting them any time soon.
P.S. to anyone who's interested, Dark Horse had Dylan Dog outside of Italy for a while. I don't know if they ever did any of the fun episodic stuff or if they tried to do some kind of overarching plot somehow but they translated the actual Italian comics into English. If you're a fan of horror or just cheesy oldschool horror flicks read this. It doesn't matter where you start, all of the stories are usually 3 parters and are episodic where its kind of a villain of the week type of deal.
Another P.S. no I'm not Italian, I'm just fortunate Eastern Europe has translated like 90% of these comics.

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Holy shit, Dylan Dog. Dude, I have a collection of these. This is my childhood. I'm still buying them as the years go by, I bought "...e cerene tornerai", "La magnifica creatura" and "Cose dell'altro mondo" a year ago. These comics are so underrated and so much fun. I have some Zagor, Alan Ford and Martin Mystery. I'm not as big of a fan of those as I am of Dylan Dog though, I've got so many Dylan Dog comics and I don't think I'll stop collecting them any time soon.
P.S. to anyone who's interested, Dark Horse had Dylan Dog outside of Italy for a while. I don't know if they ever did any of the fun episodic stuff or if they tried to do some kind of overarching plot somehow but they translated the actual Italian comics into English. If you're a fan of horror or just cheesy oldschool horror flicks read this. It doesn't matter where you start, all of the stories are usually 3 parters and are episodic where its kind of a villain of the week type of deal.
Another P.S. no I'm not Italian, I'm just fortunate Eastern Europe has translated like 90% of these comics.

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Wow! I've never seen a foreigner who knows dylan dog let alone a fan!
How'd you find out about them in the first place? Some family member?

Aren't the covers sick?
I got a tall stack of em from my uncle
 
Wow! I've never seen a foreigner who knows dylan dog let alone a fan!
How'd you find out about them in the first place? Some family member?

Aren't the covers sick?
I got a tall stack of em from my uncle
When I was younger I asked my father to take me to a store to buy some comics. He took me to this book store his friend owned where they just kind of sold regular books but on the side had some comics.
Every single one was Sergio Bonelli stuff, and me being the kid that I was, immediately picked up Dylan Dog over anything else. My first ever one was "La piramide capovolta (2011)" and I immediately fell in love and little by little I've amassed a pretty decent collection.
Nowadays I know actual comic stores that sell specifically comics and my local one actually still stocks and updates them, among selling the usual mainstream Marvel, DC, Image etc. stuff.
The great thing about them nowadays is one of them costs like 2€, 4 at most depending on what you're buying and you're getting quite a lot of content for that price. Plus, nothing beats the paper they're printed on, I really dislike the glossy paper western comics are usually printed on.
But yeah the covers are really awesome and the art inside a lot of the time is great, I even keep up with Roberto Recchioni on Instagram, he's kind of like an Italian Kojima lol
 
When the Krakoa run of X-Men started with House of X/Powers of X I was fully on board, I thought it was an incredible re-contextualization of the X-Men mythos and also a great time to hop on as a new reader. But as Hickman went hands-off on the follow-up books they got worse and worse, and the conclusion to the Krakoa era was a disaster (though I agree that it needed to end).

I haven't really kept up with the post-Krakoa books, but from what I've seen on Twitter and Youtube it doesn't look too promising. If there's a good current X-Men book please let me know though.
Krakoa really went weird with the "Everyone you know is Mr. Sinister" plot. Hickman is really amazing at setting up a fun premise and setting, like I'd imagine he's an incredible DM if he plays TTRPG's, but it's rare that anyone capitalizes on it. Secret Wars and last years G.O.D.S. both setup these large sandboxes, for example, that no one else seemed eager to play in.

The post-Krakoan X-line feels *slow*. It's odd, what with Marvel launching a dozen or so new books; Normally that many new #1 issues go hand in hand with a new big event (like Krakoa had been) or they're aiming for a fresh new direction....which is kind of the case, but most of the books are directly talking about the fallout from Krakoa, the characters grappling with losing their home. Consequently, it doesn't feel like a clean break in a meaningful sense.

(Actually, I'm feeling a touch long-winded, apologies but here I go)

X-Men - Ryan Stegman provides exciting action layouts but the book feels completely adrift, this is the "core" team led by Cyclops, but writer Jed MacKay is struggling to make X-Men standout from what's come before. Pretty much recycled 90's plots and characterization so far. (I believe MacKay is *also* the Avengers writer currently, and I hate to be too negative but the guy hasn't turned out anything worth reading yet.)

X-Force - Maybe the worst of them so far, Forge builds a crystal ball of sorts that warns him of world-ending catastrophes, and if that sounds like Hickman's New Avengers dilemma, it is!...but with bland character writing, and a constant feeling that nothing matters. The big threats are uninteresting, and the stakes are "stop that thing, my gadget said it's bad". I really can't recommend this one less. (I do like the artist, Marcus To, but the character designs and uniforms are the definition of forgettable.)

X-Factor - I don't know what's going wrong on this one. Writer Mark Russel is responsible for The Flintstones, an incredibly funny comic, and several others besides. The guy's been hilarious and interesting on other books, but here he's doing a poor man's X-Statix knockoff. If you haven't read it, X-Statix was a mean little spin-off of X-Force, taking original characters and and killing and maiming theem for fame and fortune with a reality TV twist. For something that came out in 2001, it was pretty ahead of it's time! Today's X-Factor doesn't have nearly the ambition or satirical edge of it's inspiration, and feels like one more "new take" on Cyclop's brother Havok, who I swear gets a completely new personality every two years.

Dazzler - A mini-series that already wrapped up, not much to say here except they wrote out songs and musical performances for a comic book. I love it when music gets rolled into action to save the day, like Macross, but maybe it would have been better in a medium with sound?

NYX - This one's interesting, an inner city group of young mutants, headlined by Kamala Khan, that offers a more nuanced look at post-Krakoan life that your typical superhero shenganigans. NYX takes a harder look at racism than just "the robots are coming", but it's more than a little bogged down by continuity; we're talking character histories from New X-Men, the previous NYX, Mojo, the Morlocks...it might not be very accessible.

Phoenix - Jean Grey takes her phenomenal cosmic power on a cosmic road trip, being a fiery benevolent deity to planets she passes. This ones aiming to be a cosmic book of sorts, but so far it's just the trappings of space and Thanos-adjacent characters, there's nothing new or exciting. I hate that my main takeaway is "Cyclops gets to go moon-hopping with his scumbag space pirate dad, now it's Jean's turn", but that's exactly what the book feels like. We don't often see Jean interacting with her father-in-law, it feels like there should be a better story with more emotional stakes in here somewhere.

Wolverine - Writer Saladin Ahmed's telling a bit of a throwback story with Logan here, with the character retreating to Canada to cope with the end of Krakoa/all that crazy bullshit with Sabretooth recently. It's low key, but there's a new-ish character that's added some drama and given Logan someone to relate to and look after, actual emotional stakes. Really not half bad, I'm just worried the new villain they're building up to might be a bit....stupid. We'll see, I'm probably being paranoid.

Exceptional X-Men - Maybe the best slow burn of the bunch if they can stick a landing, Eve Ewing has focused this book on Kitty Pride and her need to get out of "the life." Her career as a superhero took a really murderous turn at the end of Krakoa, and she's done being an "out" mutant, as she can blend in. Naturally she can't help her better self getting involved for young mutants in her town though, and she steadily falls into a mentor role. There's been a lot of time spent getting invested in the characters and Kitty's new life, here's hoping there's some real sparks when the rug gets pulled.

Sentinels - This one's actually kinda great, much darker in tone than the other books. A group of experimental human cyborgs with Sentinel tech are working for the government to round up potentially dangerous mutants, criminals who'd been enjoying the protection of Krakoan amnesty. All of the lead characters are dying, the tech is extremely unsafe, and each issue has been a deep dive into a team member. Just a mini-series though, should be over shortly as it crosses over with....

Mystique - ...the much weaker book of the two. This one's a bit of a callback to Brian K. Vaughns solo series with Mystique as a secret agent for Xavier, but where that book had a sense of adventure and Vaughns excellent character writing, writer and artist Declan Shalvey has opted for grim, morose, and self-serious. One of the weakest books so far.

Uncanny X-Men - The strongest book so far! I'm always in the bag for Gail Simone's writing, and her Rogue and Gambit are fantastic here, anchoring a new team of sorts with four young new mutants. If X-Men is the professional team, this one's the "family", which has always been the kind of soap opera waters these characters have swum best in. Also, Gambit hustles a dragon god in like the second issue, which is the kind of nonsense I love in my comics.

Storm, Psylocke, Magik, Laura Kinney: Wolverine - Not enough issues to really make an opinion yet, but none of these characters have had a real standout solo book before, so hopes are high! My only complaint is Marvel setting that last book up to fail from the start, just call her Wolverine and make Logan's book Logan. People know who he is, how many people know Laura Kinney?

Not the highest batting average, just my opinions of course, but I figure half these books get cancelled within a year. That's comics though, new books almost never stick around, good or bad.


So I've finished The Last Ronin two days ago and I think I'll either read The Killing Joke (for the first time in 15 years) or go for Watchmen.
Never a bad time to read Watchmen, is this the first time?
 
Thank you so much for the fantastic write-up! Makes things a lot easier lol. Since then I've caught up on Uncanny X-Men and I agree that it's quite fun.
 
I have a deep love for X-men but I have not read any comics in a long time besides my copy of Sam and Max Surfin' The Highway which is just a collection of Steve Purcell's various small scale comics centered around the titular characters. I really feel they(the comic industry giants) need to move in a different direction than the way they have been for the past well; forever. They should take notes from the Manga industry in the specifics of genre diversity and allowing a series to end in finality. New projects with new prospects and aspirations and all that.
 
I mostly read manga ( and by mostly, I mean 99%) but I'm halfway done reading the comic series Bone and it's a masterpiece
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The Killing Joke, a great classic.

I had Joker: The Man Who Laugh as a bonus story which was nice to read as well because I like some serial killing detective stories.

I really like the Judge Dredd style used and Moore is really that good of a writer. I'll need to re-read The Watchmen.
 
Just curious if there's anything folks are reading and enjoying right now, DC's All In...initiative, I guess you call it, has been pretty decent. The standouts of course being the Absolute Batman/Wonder Woman/Superman books, and The Question: All Along the Watchtower had a really interesting debut.

Dark Horse just had a title wrap up called Helen of Wnydhorn, by the creative team from Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow. The artwork is achingly gorgeous, and fits perfectly with a book telling a story that alternates between gothic and pulp fantasy.

There's also a new Star Trek: Lower Decks ongoing series from Ryan North, of Squirrel Girl fame. It was a funny first issue, and should help fill the void when the series ends in a couple weeks, best modern Star Trek and it's not even close.

There's an Image ongoing called The Power Fantasy, and it's so far shaping up to be another fantastic series by Kieron Gillen (along with Caspar Wijngaard, who I believe was his partner on the Doctor Aphra series, one of the best additions to Star Wars). I've never read anything of Gillen's I haven't fallen in love with. I was recently gifted the first trade paperback for his "D&D Jumanji" series, DIE, and ran out to buy the rest the second I finished.

Marvel's post Krakoa X-Men launch has been pretty mild, with the exception of Gail Simone's Uncanny X-Men. Marvel's most interesting right now though is probably The Immortal Thor by Al Ewing, the best Thor book since Jason Aaron's Thor: God of Thunder run.

That's all I got off the top of my head, anyone reading? (Comics, I mean read books too, the library will just give them to you.)
I used to grab and read some misc. comics in my youth, but I never gravitated towards them. I do have a group of friend that are obsessed with X-Men comics, so I hear from them once in a while.
New X-Men turned me off completly with the character of Magik. Allow me to transcribe my real time reaction to my friend's explanation:
-Hey friend! Who's this Magik character that's new to X-Men?
-Oh, she's Colossus sister!
-Hey that's cool, I like Colossus, what else?
-She has the power to create portals.
-I see... Like a Nightcrawler, but without the instant transmission.
-Yeah sorta, she got separated from Colossus after she acidentaly created a portal that she didn't know where it went to.
-Right, so she got lost and had to find her way home, so that's the excuse they use as to why Colossus never mentioned her, no problem I can get behind it.
-Yes, but not before she had to become the queen of the demon realm.
-...The what?
-Yeah so the portal took her to this sorta demon realm where she had to fight for her life and survive, wich in turn gave her these sick demonic powers that-
-Ok, s-slow down.
- -And she has this huge sword she uses to cut people in half and these dark demonic powers to-
-Demonic powers? Isn't she a mutant already?
- -And with enough energy she can unleash the Dark Child, wich is her demonic form due to living in the demon realm for so long... Any more questions, Hikari?
-...Are we still talking about X-Men?
 
I used to grab and read some misc. comics in my youth, but I never gravitated towards them. I do have a group of friend that are obsessed with X-Men comics, so I hear from them once in a while.
New X-Men turned me off completly with the character of Magik. Allow me to transcribe my real time reaction to my friend's explanation:
-Hey friend! Who's this Magik character that's new to X-Men?
-Oh, she's Colossus sister!
-Hey that's cool, I like Colossus, what else?
-She has the power to create portals.
-I see... Like a Nightcrawler, but without the instant transmission.
-Yeah sorta, she got separated from Colossus after she acidentaly created a portal that she didn't know where it went to.
-Right, so she got lost and had to find her way home, so that's the excuse they use as to why Colossus never mentioned her, no problem I can get behind it.
-Yes, but not before she had to become the queen of the demon realm.
-...The what?
-Yeah so the portal took her to this sorta demon realm where she had to fight for her life and survive, wich in turn gave her these sick demonic powers that-
-Ok, s-slow down.
- -And she has this huge sword she uses to cut people in half and these dark demonic powers to-
-Demonic powers? Isn't she a mutant already?
- -And with enough energy she can unleash the Dark Child, wich is her demonic form due to living in the demon realm for so long... Any more questions, Hikari?
-...Are we still talking about X-Men?
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Oh the lore from some of the Claremont X-Men days of the 80's is damned impenetrable, and Magik/Illyana was maybe the worst part. She was Colossus's kid sister who made portals on The New Mutants, then she got a four part mini-series where she was trapped in Limbo and taught soul magic by Belasco (*a* satan but not *the* Satan), and an alt-history Storm and Shadowcat teach her other magic and how to fight. Fast-forward to the 90's and she outright dies to the Legacy virus, which I've always taken to be a metaphor for AIDS. Skip ahead about thirteen years and she's back as the Queen of Limbo, and returns to Earth as a mortal again (sort of, it's comics) after some shenanigans in New X-Men, which were an intentional callback to The New Mutants from twenty years prior...




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Yeah, no, my eyes are crossing on their own, it's a mutiny in my skull. The fun part though? Starting around 2012 or so, she got a redesign in her current black (occasionally with yellow/gold) outfit with a conspicuously larger Soulsword, and she's exploded in popularity ever since. Does the story of a young survivor, hardened by a childhood of exploitation, find a more receptive audience in the modern day? Does the giant blazing sword grab more attention in a world where manga is the premiere mode of graphic novel? Maybe the boots and leather, paired with a personality that screams "I'll kill you, worm", like a mutant dominatrix?

Hell, I don't know, maybe all of the above. She *is* pretty great though, the X-Men have always had the best female characters in comics and Magik is no exception.






The first issue of her new book is pretty interesting, with Magik getting involved with a Lovecraftian entity sealed in Juneau, Alaska, and some kind of prophecy involving mutants. Gibberish, but it might be a fun gibberish, I'll keep reading. Also, there's a gun-slinging crow devil out to free Not-Cthulu.

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Yes. More. Thank You. (The color work by Arthur Hesli is particularly eye-grabbing too, the various sigils and magic effects pop with a neon intensity.)
 
and some kind of prophecy involving mutants.
Yeah that's another small point of contigency for me, I personally miss the days where the mutants where a goverment experiment, the whole works of putting chemicals in the foods in the 50s and what not, not some form of super race prophetised in the days of old (excluding Apocalypse, I think he's pretty cool and made sense the way they wrote him). Call me cynic, but I think the new runs of X-Men lost the plot of what made X-Men unique, and they are constantly trying to light up that spark that made them work, but I digress...
 
Yeah that's another small point of contigency for me, I personally miss the days where the mutants where a goverment experiment, the whole works of putting chemicals in the foods in the 50s and what not, not some form of super race prophetised in the days of old (excluding Apocalypse, I think he's pretty cool and made sense the way they wrote him). Call me cynic, but I think the new runs of X-Men lost the plot of what made X-Men unique, and they are constantly trying to light up that spark that made them work, but I digress...
It's probably all relative to when you grew up reading them, in the 80's they bounced between space opera and incursions from hell, wall to wall epic plots; the 90's leaned more pop science, with a particular love of time travel. I want to say the origin you're talking about is from the Ultimate timeline in the 00's, which is slowly making a return right now, while the mainline continuity spiraled out of Grant Morrison's X-Men, with a more radical look at being a racial minority in the Marvel Universe. (Morrison did incorporate some of the WW2 experiment angle into mutants though, making Weapon X "Weapon 10", in a line of anti-mutant experiments going back to Captain America and the super-soldier program...actually, he might have inspired the Ultimate universe origins, I can't remember which came first now.)

It is kinda weird when they get particularly mystic, like Magik or whenever Storm is an actual witch. They already have fantastical powers, when they start flinging spells as well it feels like a hat on a hat! I think Magik and Pixie are some of the only characters I don't mind dabbling in the dark arts, and they've had years of stories setting that up.
 
It's probably all relative to when you grew up reading them
I was born in '03, so I guess that fits the bill.
It is kinda weird when they get particularly mystic, like Magik or whenever Storm is an actual witch. They already have fantastical powers, when they start flinging spells as well it feels like a hat on a hat! I think Magik and Pixie are some of the only characters I don't mind dabbling in the dark arts, and they've had years of stories setting that up.
Honestly, that's my main problem. It feels like they are double dipping with the whole mystical stuff on X-Men, like I get it that it's the Marvel universe where norse gods and sorceresses exist, but like you said X-Men exist on the universe with their on struggles, with analogies to racism, wars, inhuman experiments and all, ironically making them the most human squad on marvel comics, their struggle is very real and bordelining on torture sometimes by how horrific the fate for many of them end up being, so bringing in this magical aspect just... "infantalizes" their struggle (it's not the correct word, but I couldn't find a better replacement for it). I don't hate modern comics, I just can't see the appeal anymore, maybe the teens reading them can but I'll be honest, I'm 21 soon 22 and I already went through my grundge phase, so the whole dark and opressive atmosphere doesn't hit for me anymore, maybe I'm getting to old for this shit...
 
Honestly, that's my main problem. It feels like they are double dipping with the whole mystical stuff on X-Men, like I get it that it's the Marvel universe where norse gods and sorceresses exist, but like you said X-Men exist on the universe with their on struggles, with analogies to racism, wars, inhuman experiments and all, ironically making them the most human squad on marvel comics, their struggle is very real and bordelining on torture sometimes by how horrific the fate for many of them end up being, so bringing in this magical aspect just... "infantalizes" their struggle (it's not the correct word, but I couldn't find a better replacement for it). I don't hate modern comics, I just can't see the appeal anymore, maybe the teens reading them can but I'll be honest, I'm 21 soon 22 and I already went through my grundge phase, so the whole dark and opressive atmosphere doesn't hit for me anymore, maybe I'm getting to old for this shit...
I get what you mean, Wolverine hunting down the Nazi who tortured Magneto as a child in one comic, and next week being Papa Bear to a group of teen mutants on an adventure in space can be...jarring. That being said, one of the fun things about comic books is taking characters and mixing them into different genres; the X-Men fight racial injustice, yeah, but they can have more than just the struggle.

The 80's especially saw Chris Claremont jumping around all over the place, like the Dark Phoenix saga, where an empowered Jean Grey sheds her high school sweetheart persona and threatens everyone around her with a metaphor for her sexuality; or the first major arc of The New Mutants, a horror story about a demonic bear tied to Dani Moonstar's Native American roots menacing her and the other teenagers. (Kind of the inspiration for that terrible movie from a few years back, I promise the book was better.) Even better, Claremont kept a constant soap opera vibe throughout the main X-books, with love triangles and doomed romances keeping the audience invested in Marvel's best selling book of the decade. (Actually, the relaunch of the main X-Men series, X-Men #1 is still the best selling single issue of a comic book in history. People love their soaps!)

If anything, I think it's a shame that the current line-up is so....standard superhero? I think the Krakoa era kicked off so, uh, sexually liberated, that their afraid to really start up some new sordid romance.

(I also fell out of comics for some years at like the same age you are now, and didn't pick them back up for awhile, so I totally get that. Also, reading this over, I think I'm mostly rambling? I'm old, I do that, thanks for reading.)
 

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