700+ modern games reviewed. 40% already dead. 15% fan preserved. 2% dev preserved.

[_oBSOLEte_]

Realistically speaking, they have very obvious reasons to not just pull away games like that, and as matter of fact most delisted games on GOG are still available for download for people who bought then before they got delisted. With this I am not saying that GOG is perfect and shouldn't be criticized, I think they have a lot to improve like including the original isos and previous versions.

Realistically speaking, companies that are *legally* bound to keep their data available for twenty years in serious industries are already struggling with their backups. And they're regularly audited for that by government agencies.

GOG sells videogame to impulse buyers ready to accept everything. If they ever close and tell us to get the installers, I dont even expect the servers to be able to handle the load.

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Yeah, the lack of transparent information really gets me.

The list is a spreadsheet readily accessible in the video description...

SKG- Dead Game List.xlsx

docs.google.com

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Yeah, the lack of transparent information really gets me. What platforms are these games on? When is "modern"? Did the games even have audiences, or did like three people play most of them because of how oversaturated the market is? Are these examples cherrypicked? Did Valo copy and paste that from elsewhere, or are they just that furious that they decided to veer off-topic?

If you're going to post a statistic like that, posting a video and deciding that's all the information you need isn't helpful for discussion. Most people won't even watch it. Those who did still lack a lot of information. He mentions a list, but did any of us even read it? It's 700 games. That's a *lot*. Quotes from it are very helpful in propegating conversation, because otherwise we end up with arguments about GoG and have nothing else to go off of.

700 games is a grain of sand compared to the entire Steam library.

 

[_oBSOLEte_]

700 games is a grain of sand compared to the entire Steam library.

Yes, good point! Popular games already struggling for being preserved. Now imagine for games no one even cares about... XD

 

[Hourai]

The list is a spreadsheet readily accessible in the video description...

SKG- Dead Game List.xlsx

docs.google.com

If you're going to post a statistic like that, posting a video and deciding that's all the information you need isn't helpful for discussion. Most people won't even watch it. Those who did still lack a lot of information. He mentions a list, but did any of us even read it? It's 700 games. That's a *lot*. Quotes from it are very helpful in propegating conversation, because otherwise we end up with arguments about GoG and have nothing else to go off of.

The second half of what I said still stands. While yes, this is something I agree with, there isn't really anything that would've persuaded me if I believed otherwise. I only watched the video because I cared about talking about why more information was needed; I wouldn't have touched it otherwise.

Admittedly, this is an issue that stems from the channel owner. A chunk of data that I'd imagine nobody who viewed this thread did more than glance at doesn't really hold any weight until it's used. And because they were the one who brought it up, the burden of proof is on them. Not someone who sees large gaps in the information provided and points it out. Because I assure you, people who side with the corporations will see the lack of that as the same as having none whatsoever.

 

[_oBSOLEte_]

The second half of what I said still stands. While yes, this is something I agree with, there isn't really anything that would've persuaded me if I believed otherwise. I only watched the video because I cared about talking about why more information was needed; I wouldn't have touched it otherwise.

Admittedly, this is an issue that stems from the channel owner. A chunk of data that I'd imagine nobody who viewed this thread did more than glance at doesn't really hold any weight until it's used. And because they were the one who brought it up, the burden of proof is on them. Not someone who sees large gaps in the information provided and points it out. Because I assure you, people who side with the corporations will see the lack of that as the same as having none whatsoever.

Oh so you found the link at last... Now moving goal posts? What additionnal proof do you need? Each game is detailed and there are sources to confirm if it's dead or at risk.

It's a collaborative spreadsheet and they're going to make a wiki out of it in june. They're well aware they wont win any popularity contest by speaking some truth in the ears of fanbois with stockholm syndrome, those have buried their head in the sand long ago.

The data is presented as is and I personally find it really useful. Just filtering the fan-preserved titles, I'm almost tempted to play some FFXI (with retroachievements) or Warhammer Online, now that I know there's no publisher bullshit that could annihilate my serverside savefile.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

In the better world we could all still legally buy most video games, even those that stopped being supported and having the ability to use p2p servers.

Even console games with online and a solo mode aren't immune to that either.

Yeah, the lack of transparent information really gets me. What platforms are these games on? When is "modern"? Did the games even have audiences, or did like three people play most of them because of how oversaturated the market is? Are these examples cherrypicked? Did Valo copy and paste that from elsewhere, or are they just that furious that they decided to veer off-topic?

If you're going to post a statistic like that, posting a video and deciding that's all the information you need isn't helpful for discussion. Most people won't even watch it. Those who did still lack a lot of information. He mentions a list, but did any of us even read it? It's 700 games. That's a *lot*. Quotes from it are very helpful in propegating conversation, because otherwise we end up with arguments about GoG and have nothing else to go off of.

I cannot blame if a semi obscure online game from the 90's - early 00's got their support stopped.

 

[_oBSOLEte_]

I cannot blame if a semi obscure online game from the 90's - early 00's got their support stopped.

I dont think you know what "support" means. Dead games are games you cant *play* anymore. It's not just "support".

But we got your point. You don't see a problem with some old games being rendered unusable. Lucky you, IkaRuga (with the R in the middle), had no online component except maybe some leaderboards...

If I may ask... If it's not a problem for you, then why post here in this thread?