2004 might be the greatest year in all of gaming in terms of titles ,prove me wrong

[dmoc545]

its either that or 2007
here's a good chunk of the big hits:
tony hawk undeground 2,gran turismo 4,gta san andreas,half life 2,halo 2,mgs3,ninja gaiden,pokemon gen 1 remakes and emerald,pikmin 2,prince of persia:warrior within,world of warcraft,far cry,fable,katamari,monster hunter,red dead revolver,crash twinsanity,kh chain of memories,spiderman 2,star wars battlefront,paper mario thousand year door,sly 2,jak 3,ratchet and clank up your arsenal,def jam,tekken 5,dead or alive ultimate,sims 2,wwe smackdown vs raw and so on

 

[moon200218]

Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man

 

[MegaDrive1987]

The year I left secondary school and yes some SUPERB games came out that year, Burnout 3: Takedown being one of them!

 

[Fietto!]

2002 was cool too!

 

[Naltic]

Man, let's just be honest with ourselves here. Any early 2000s year is better than anything that is being released nowadays. Like, it was just peak game after peak game, no matter the year.

 

[dmoc545]

Man, let's just be honest with ourselves here. Any early 2000s year is better than anything that is being released nowadays. Like, it was just peak game after peak game, no matter the year.

bro for all the problems i have with people romanticzing old media and old times and just making nostalgia post especially to shit on modern media u just gotta admit that 6th and 7th gen gaming was the best period of the industry for many reasons,many things that nowdays are gone were either still a thing or got big in it,its when platformers were still big and fps games during their golden age,the industry was being pushed in so many ways,like much much more.

 

[Princess Viola]

I raise you 1998:
Ocarina of Time, Half-Life, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, StarCraft, Banjo Kazooie, Baldur's Gate, Sonic Adventure (in Japan), Spyro the Dragon, F-Zero X, Parasite Eve, Fallout 2, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Pokémon Red/Blue (in North America), the list goes on.

 

[MegaDrive1987]

I raise you 1998:
Ocarina of Time, Half-Life, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, StarCraft, Banjo Kazooie, Baldur's Gate, Sonic Adventure (in Japan), Spyro the Dragon, F-Zero X, Parasite Eve, Fallout 2, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Pokémon Red/Blue (in North America), the list goes on.

Good call, I remember 1998 VERY well because of RE2, 1999 was when we got Pokemon Red/Blue here in the UK.

 

[PhaseJump]

1989 was a huge year.

New hardware that changed the landscape forever, and new game releases that were some of the greatest ever made.


Sega Genesis and Game Boy both have become leading contemporary homebrew platforms, still getting new games commercially packaged and sold for them.

 

[gastd]

Yes, it was a good year for gaming but not necessarily the best.

 

[dmoc545]

I raise you 1998:
Ocarina of Time, Half-Life, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, StarCraft, Banjo Kazooie, Baldur's Gate, Sonic Adventure (in Japan), Spyro the Dragon, F-Zero X, Parasite Eve, Fallout 2, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Pokémon Red/Blue (in North America), the list goes on.

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1989 was a huge year.

New hardware that changed the landscape forever, and new game releases that were some of the greatest ever made.


Sega Genesis and Game Boy both have become leading contemporary homebrew platforms, still getting new games commercially packaged and sold for them.

im talking titles purely,not hardware and such

 

[SeventhSon]

SNES - USA

1991
Super Mario World

That's it. That's all you need.

 

[dmoc545]

SNES - USA

1991
Super Mario World

That's it. That's all you need.

dude,is that iron maiden in ur pfp?

 

[Lokgamer]

It depends of who you ask. For example of all the games you mention, for me only Ninja Gaiden and Prince of Persia Warrior Within worth it.

 

[JellyjamLu]

all the years mentioned here already are the kind of magic we shall never witness again in gaming.

 

[ProfessorFrog]

It had a lot of disappointments, but it's because my tastes were always little bit more developed than average. I just had played much more games that most people. So i wasn't easily impressed.

- HL2 was just plain, worse gameplay that HL1. Psi Ops already did physics and more interesting too.
- San Andreas was interesting for the amount of content, but it's gameplay was basic and clunky, and it's characters goofy. Those used to a higher quality (see FFX for example) probably weren't too impressed with the story and characters. I never finished the game because it just wasn't good enough.
- Prince of persia warrior within was alright, but i liked sands of time better
- Halo 2 bored me and i never finished it. It's gameplay just isn't interesting enough. Why? Because HL1 and UT99 were much faster and more technical to play.
- UT2004 was kind of a disappointment. It did not course correct how UT2003 didn't fully deliver. And instead it chose to do vehicles and war-like battles which diluted the gameplay. A big disappointment.
- World of warcraft caused a lot of damage to gaming. With downgraded gameplay to hide the network delays. The artstyle is one of my most hated.
- MGS3 snake eater was of course very good for it's story and presentation, but the forest gameplay just didn't feel as good as the indoors urban gameplay of MGS1 and 2. The menuing was also so slow that you'd avoid changing camo or items. Besides the main story, there was little extra content or collectables, for the 3rd time in the series.
- Minish Cap was decent, but just not good enough. Not enough items, and the goofy wind waker style wasn't really needed either.
- Metroid prime 2 was another metroid game that didn't deliver metroid in 3d, but just did something else.
- Fart Cry didn't really do anything with gameplay that hadn't been done before, the weapons were boring.
- burnout 3 was fantastic of course, but not enough to keep 2004 anywhere near the best year of gaming with the above fuck-ups.

 

[JustLooking456]

Not a year has gone by without at least a few good games being released.

But yes, back then there was just so much peak. 2004 is for sure one of the best years in gaming for me, simply because of Paper Mario TTYD. I played that game into the ground.

 

[Aldia Aldia]

2010 is slept on far too much.
From the top of my mind, it had:

New Vegas
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Just Cause 2
Red Dead Redemption
Call of Duty Black Ops
Sonic Colors
Halo Reach

 

[ProfessorFrog]

I think 2004 was impressive for a certain type of player. Players that like man-stuff that you'd not get laughed at by your male friends.
Stuff with cars, fist fighting, guns and military shit.

That's what i see mostly in 2004. While these things had been done before in videogames, it always had a more grain of salt presentation. It was about fun, and playing pretend.

 

[JellyjamLu]

I had a lot of disappointments, but it's because my tastes are a little bit more developed, and they always were.

- HL2 was just plain, worse gameplay that HL1. Psi Ops already did physics and more interesting too.
- San Andreas was interesting for the amount of content, but it's gameplay was basic and clunky, and it's characters goofy. Those used to a higher quality (see FFX for example) probably weren't too impressed with the story and characters. I never finished the game because it just wasn't good enough.

- Halo 2 bored me and i never finished it. It's gameplay just isn't interesting enough. Why? Because HL1 and UT99 were much faster and more technical to play.

- MGS3 snake eater was of course very good for it's story and presentation, but the forest gameplay just didn't feel as good as the indoors urban gameplay of MGS1 and 2. The menuing was also so slow that you'd avoid changing camo or items. Besides the main story, there was little extra content or collectables, for the 3rd time in the series.

^ These three points you mentioned here I agree with, not played the others in your list, but from experience, Yeah...

HL2 got kinda boring for me once you get to Nova Prospekt, the prison... dang what a drop off point, not had the energy to go back. it was quite dull. (It's a solid game, but i can already sense the later half decline)

Halo 2 is pretty good but most of the arbiter levels are kinda boring tbh. second half of the game also suffers from being much weaker too, once you had the fill of Cairo Station, Outskirts and Metropolis, pretty big decline.

I know someone who swears MGS3 is the best, good he has a fav and all, but in no way does it hold a candle to 1 & 2. imo, 2 being the overall show stopper for me.

I guess the areas in 3 are meh, especially the mountain ranges and the facilities, dressing up as a scientist and wandering through the hallways, also the later one with Raikov, Oh and the entire escort mission at the end.
(Much prefer the one with Emma in 2, whilst not great either, at least I can do swimming, spraying bugs and the sniper bit in between the initial escort itself)

 

[Sheepy765]

Any year that involves the releases of games that I love is a good year for gaming. Like 2012 saw the release of big games like:
- Alan Wake
- Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
- Mass Effect 3
- Warriors Orochi 3
- Bioshock 2
- Rhythm Thief
I could go on

 

[ProfessorFrog]

^ These three points you mentioned here I agree with, not played the others in your list, but from experience, Yeah...

HL2 got kinda boring for me once you get to Nova Prospekt, the prison... dang what a drop off point, not had the energy to go back. it was quite dull. (It's a solid game, but i can already sense the later half decline)

Halo 2 is pretty good but most of the arbiter levels are kinda boring tbh. second half of the game also suffers from being much weaker too, once you had the fill of Cairo Station, Outskirts and Metropolis, pretty big decline.

I know someone who swears MGS3 is the best, good he has a fav and all, but in no way does it hold a candle to 1 & 2. imo, 2 being the overall show stopper for me.

I guess the areas in 3 are meh, especially the mountain ranges and the facilities, dressing up as a scientist and wandering through the hallways, also the later one with Raikov, Oh and the entire escort mission at the end.
(Much prefer the one with Emma in 2, whilst not great either, at least I can do swimming, spraying bugs and the sniper bit in between the initial escort itself)

the mountain and urban areas in 3 are the highlights for me. Because they do what mgs1 and 2 do. Maybe not as good as mgs 1 and 2, but it's better than the forest areas imo.

i don't think halo2 has a particular drop in quality. It just wasn't interesting enough for another game. buncha military hoohaa stuff just doesn't interest me

 

[NotReallyHere]

I was in my own peak gaming years in the mid 90s, so I'll always have a soft spot for that era. And while it is hard to choose just one year (as 95-98 really blurs together, when I look back on it) I've always been pretty partial to 1996.

Just off the top of my head, the N64 launched, so we finally got our hands on Super Mario 64! And the launch window lineup had some of my personal all-time favorites on the console, like Wave Race 64 and Shadows of the Empire.

The PS1 was also really starting to kick it into gear. We got the original Resident Evil and Crash Bandicoot, among others.

On the PC side, we got Diablo and Red Alert. And I'm sure there's countless others I'm forgetting...

 

[dmoc545]

It had a lot of disappointments, but it's because my tastes were always little bit more developed than average. I just had played much more games that most people. So i wasn't easily impressed.

- HL2 was just plain, worse gameplay that HL1. Psi Ops already did physics and more interesting too.
- San Andreas was interesting for the amount of content, but it's gameplay was basic and clunky, and it's characters goofy. Those used to a higher quality (see FFX for example) probably weren't too impressed with the story and characters. I never finished the game because it just wasn't good enough.
- Prince of persia warrior within was alright, but i liked sands of time better
- Halo 2 bored me and i never finished it. It's gameplay just isn't interesting enough. Why? Because HL1 and UT99 were much faster and more technical to play.
- UT2004 was kind of a disappointment. It did not course correct how UT2003 didn't fully deliver. And instead it chose to do vehicles and war-like battles which diluted the gameplay. A big disappointment.
- World of warcraft caused a lot of damage to gaming. With downgraded gameplay to hide the network delays. The artstyle is one of my most hated.
- MGS3 snake eater was of course very good for it's story and presentation, but the forest gameplay just didn't feel as good as the indoors urban gameplay of MGS1 and 2. The menuing was also so slow that you'd avoid changing camo or items. Besides the main story, there was little extra content or collectables, for the 3rd time in the series.
- Minish Cap was decent, but just not good enough. Not enough items, and the goofy wind waker style wasn't really needed either.
- Metroid prime 2 was another metroid game that didn't deliver metroid in 3d, but just did something else.
- Fart Cry didn't really do anything with gameplay that hadn't been done before, the weapons were boring.
- burnout 3 was fantastic of course, but not enough to keep 2004 anywhere near the best year of gaming with the above fuck-ups.

with the psi ops thing,both games used the havok physics engine,but the thing that made hl2's phsyics so advanced was that valve made changes to the havok physics engine and tweaked it and i played psi ops and hl2 and im telling it does not compare imo,its still impressive and ahead of hl2 but like games like jumping flash and wolfeinstein,it doesnt take away credit from the game that popularized and or redfined it,mario 64 wasnt the first,doom wasnt the first,and hl2 wasnt the first but they still were the ones that defined it the most and popularized it and that should be remembered,so does psi ops,jumping flash and wolf cuz they also matter,also hl2 i would say is more strategy with the physics engine and freedom,hl1 was strategy that was diff and is more also speed chaotic

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It had a lot of disappointments, but it's because my tastes were always little bit more developed than average. I just had played much more games that most people. So i wasn't easily impressed.

- HL2 was just plain, worse gameplay that HL1. Psi Ops already did physics and more interesting too.
- San Andreas was interesting for the amount of content, but it's gameplay was basic and clunky, and it's characters goofy. Those used to a higher quality (see FFX for example) probably weren't too impressed with the story and characters. I never finished the game because it just wasn't good enough.
- Prince of persia warrior within was alright, but i liked sands of time better
- Halo 2 bored me and i never finished it. It's gameplay just isn't interesting enough. Why? Because HL1 and UT99 were much faster and more technical to play.
- UT2004 was kind of a disappointment. It did not course correct how UT2003 didn't fully deliver. And instead it chose to do vehicles and war-like battles which diluted the gameplay. A big disappointment.
- World of warcraft caused a lot of damage to gaming. With downgraded gameplay to hide the network delays. The artstyle is one of my most hated.
- MGS3 snake eater was of course very good for it's story and presentation, but the forest gameplay just didn't feel as good as the indoors urban gameplay of MGS1 and 2. The menuing was also so slow that you'd avoid changing camo or items. Besides the main story, there was little extra content or collectables, for the 3rd time in the series.
- Minish Cap was decent, but just not good enough. Not enough items, and the goofy wind waker style wasn't really needed either.
- Metroid prime 2 was another metroid game that didn't deliver metroid in 3d, but just did something else.
- Fart Cry didn't really do anything with gameplay that hadn't been done before, the weapons were boring.
- burnout 3 was fantastic of course, but not enough to keep 2004 anywhere near the best year of gaming with the above fuck-ups.

wait,sand andreas characters goofy? and? they still great characters,cj,ten penny,big smoke,cesar,wu and so on man,the story is genuinely one of the best,up there with 4 imo and i love both games to death,they my two fav gta games

 

[ProfessorFrog]

with the psi ops thing,both games used the havok physics engine,but the thing that made hl2's phsyics so advanced was that valve made changes to the havok physics engine and tweaked it and i played psi ops and hl2 and im telling it does not compare imo,its still impressive and ahead of hl2 but like games like jumping flash and wolfeinstein,it doesnt take away credit from the game that popularized and or redfined it,mario 64 wasnt the first,doom wasnt the first,and hl2 wasnt the first but they still were the ones that defined it the most and popularized it and that should be remembered,so does psi ops,jumping flash and wolf cuz they also matter,also hl2 i would say is more strategy with the physics engine and freedom,hl1 was strategy that was diff and is more also speed chaotic

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wait,sand andreas characters goofy? and? they still great characters,cj,ten penny,big smoke,cesar,wu and so on man,the story is genuinely one of the best,up there with 4 imo and i love both games to death,they my two fav gta games

PSI OPS
I don't mean HL2 doesn't deserve some credit, but they pretty much took it from psi ops. Yes they probably improved it a little, but that doesn't mean it should get credit for creating havok physics.

But, that wasn't specifically my point. It's just that while people were getting enthusiastic about the physics, i looked at it, and didn't feel as much excitement from that. Because it had already been done, and more fun and interesting because of the psi powers, and how you use it during combat.

SAN ANDREAS
What i mean by goofy is that the characters move in a cartoony exaggerated way, and they aren't pretty like you'd see in some other big titles of it's time.
There's just a big quality difference in the style. Yes, it has a "realistic" coloring and proportion style, but that doesn't mean it looks good.

I understand technically it was impressive, but as a player that doesn't mean anything to me.

I respect san andreas the most for introducing air control on car driving.