"X is now as old as Y when X was new"

[Ikagura Ikagura]

I love that kind of comparison because it shows how time goes on. (Same goes for "more time separates X from Y than Y from today").

Do you have good examples for that?

 

[RETRO-VETRO RETRO-VETRO]

Yes! I love those too, they’re like little time paradoxes. They make history feel alive and weirdly personal

 

[bjork]

You mean like "the release of Ghostbusters to today is the a longer amount of time from the end of World War II to the release of Ghostbusters"

 

[Segadude113]

Twilight Princess is now over 20 years old. When it released back then, the original NES Zelda was 20 years old.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Yes! I love those too, they’re like little time paradoxes. They make history feel alive and weirdly personal

Same. The more common example was: "the time between the pyramids of Gizeh and Cleopatra is more than her and the iPhone."

You mean like "the release of Ghostbusters to today is the a longer amount of time from the end of World War II to the release of Ghostbusters"

I've checked and well... You're right! 40+ years separates events between each others.

Twilight Princess is now over 20 years old. When it released back then, the original NES Zelda was 20 years old.

It feels weird to know that The Legend of Zelda was merely two decades old when Twilight Princess was release whereas Twilight Princess still holds up as a very modern looking video game even to this day.

 

[RETRO-VETRO RETRO-VETRO]

Same. The more common example was: "the time between the pyramids of Gizeh and Cleopatra is more than her and the iPhone."


I've checked and well... You're right! 40+ years separates events between each others.


It feels weird to know that The Legend of Zelda was merely two decades old when Twilight Princess was release whereas Twilight Princess still holds up as a very modern looking video game even to this day.

That’s a classic and powerful comparison. It highlights how our perception of “ancient” can be misleading. The Pyramids of Giza were built around 2500 BCE, while Cleopatra lived around 30 BCE. That’s a gap of over 2,400 years. In contrast, Cleopatra lived just over 2,000 years ago, meaning she’s closer in time to us today than to the construction of the pyramids.

These kinds of comparisons are useful because they reframe historical timelines in ways that challenge intuition. They show how vast certain periods really are, and how recent others feel by contrast. It’s a great way to make history feel more tangible.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Bubble Fiction: Boom or Bust is a time travelling comedy movie about a woman going from 2006 to 1990 to try finding her mother back (and preventing the economic bubble collapse from happening as well). Now the era portrayed as the "present" in the movie is now as retro as the era they had perceived as retro to them.

That’s a classic and powerful comparison. It highlights how our perception of “ancient” can be misleading. The Pyramids of Giza were built around 2500 BCE, while Cleopatra lived around 30 BCE. That’s a gap of over 2,400 years. In contrast, Cleopatra lived just over 2,000 years ago, meaning she’s closer in time to us today than to the construction of the pyramids.

These kinds of comparisons are useful because they reframe historical timelines in ways that challenge intuition. They show how vast certain periods really are, and how recent others feel by contrast. It’s a great way to make history feel more tangible.

Ancient Egypt is quite vague when you see how many dynasties came and went. Same with China and even the Roman Empire having many different periods.

 

[RETRO-VETRO RETRO-VETRO]

Bubble Fiction: Boom or Bust is a time travelling comedy movie about a woman going from 2006 to 1990 to try finding her mother back (and preventing the economic bubble collapse from happening as well). Now the era portrayed as the "present" in the movie is now as retro as the era they had perceived as retro to them.
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Ancient Egypt is quite vague when you see how many dynasties came and went. Same with China and even the Roman Empire having many different periods.

Absolutely. When people say “Ancient Egypt,” they’re often referring to a span of over 3,000 years from the early dynastic period around 3100 BCE to the fall of the Ptolemaic dynasty in 30 BCE. That’s longer than most modern nations have existed.

Same with China, between the Xia, Shang, Zhou, Qin, Han, and so on, it’s a vast timeline with major shifts in culture, governance, and technology. And the Roman Empire went from Republic to Imperial to Byzantine, each with its own identity.

It’s fascinating how we compress these massive, complex histories into single labels. Makes those time comparisons even more mind-bending.

 

[Miles Miles]

The Xbox 360 is now 20 years old. The NES was 20 years old when the 360 came out.

 

[RETRO-VETRO RETRO-VETRO]

The Xbox 360 is now 20 years old. The NES was 20 years old when the 360 came out.

Oh, how time flies.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Absolutely. When people say “Ancient Egypt,” they’re often referring to a span of over 3,000 years from the early dynastic period around 3100 BCE to the fall of the Ptolemaic dynasty in 30 BCE. That’s longer than most modern nations have existed.

Same with China, between the Xia, Shang, Zhou, Qin, Han, and so on, it’s a vast timeline with major shifts in culture, governance, and technology. And the Roman Empire went from Republic to Imperial to Byzantine, each with its own identity.

It’s fascinating how we compress these massive, complex histories into single labels. Makes those time comparisons even more mind-bending.

And I just noticed that the quite popular Three Kingdoms era of China is merely a small episode in the history of the country...

I am aware that we're simplifying a lot of ancient civilizations (me first) but I think it's more for the sake of making it clearer to people than someone talking about Song.

I'd love to talk more about more civilizations and ancient history but I may digress a bit too far from the subject.

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The Xbox 360 is now 20 years old. The NES was 20 years old when the 360 came out.

The Xbox 360 really jumpstarted modern gaming in its current state back then. Sure we got some drafts with the PS2 era introducing internet and modern controls for games but this is where it started for good with hard drive, downloadable content and more accessible internet along with a player profile having achievements and voice talk.

 

[RETRO-VETRO RETRO-VETRO]

And I just noticed that the quite popular Three Kingdoms era of China is merely a small episode in the history of the country...
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I am aware that we're simplifying a lot of ancient civilizations (me first) but I think it's more for the sake of making it clearer to people than someone talking about Song.

I'd love to talk more about more civilizations and ancient history but I may digress a bit too far from the subject.

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The Xbox 360 really jumpstarted modern gaming in its current state back then. Sure we got some drafts with the PS2 era introducing internet and modern controls for games but this is where it started for good with hard drive, downloadable content and more accessible internet along with a player profile having achievements and voice talk.

the Three Kingdoms era gets a lot of attention thanks to Romance of the Three Kingdoms and all the pop culture adaptations, but in the grand sweep of Chinese history, it’s surprisingly brief. That timeline really puts things in perspective.

And yeah, simplifying is often necessary when introducing people to ancient civilizations. It’s easier to say “Ancient Egypt” or “Imperial China” than to dive into the nuances of the Song or the Ptolemaic period right away. But once you zoom in, the complexity is incredible.

If you ever feel like digressing into other civilizations or historical rabbit holes, I’m all in. There’s so much to uncover from the Hittites to the Maurya Empire to the Olmecs. History’s full of underrated chapters.

 

[Turbo Kid]

You could argue that the Dreamcast already knew what modern gaming would look like. High resolution, internet, handheld gimmickry with VMUs, Sega was always ahead of the curve.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

You could argue that the Dreamcast already knew what modern gaming would look like. High resolution, internet, handheld gimmickry with VMUs, Sega was always ahead of the curve.

I wouldn't call 480i HD and the VMU were a bit too underused by devs yet I do agree that the Internet solely made it ahead of the curve. The original Xbox was also a natural extension of that console back when it was released.

On a side note it reminds me of that years old meme that made me feel old as well:

 

[qw90700]

Wow.

So 2 years ago PS2 was as old as Atari 2600 when PS2 was new!!!

Woooooooooooooooowwwww.

lolol

 

[Turbo Kid]

While I don't like being reminded of my age LOL, I do feel very fortunate to have lived through the majority of the video game industry's life cycle. I played NES games, ColecoVision games, and Atari 2600 games in the 80s. I have watched this industry grow up and have grown up alongside it. Something that no one today can say about other mediums like cinema. Hell, gaming and I both went through our rebellious, attitude filled teen years in the 90s with Sega basically having that be their brand LOL and even Sony doing it with Crash Bandicoot commercials where he's calling out Mario LOL.

 

[RETRO-VETRO RETRO-VETRO]

Wow.

So 2 years ago PS2 was as old as Atari 2600 when PS2 was new!!!

Woooooooooooooooowwwww.

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lolol

It's indeed, crazy!

 

[qw90700]

While I don't like being reminded of my age LOL, I do feel very fortunate to have lived through the majority of the video game industry's life cycle. I played NES games, ColecoVision games, and Atari 2600 games in the 80s. I have watched this industry grow up and have grown up alongside it. Something that no one today can say about other mediums like cinema. Hell, gaming and I both went through our rebellious, attitude filled teen years in the 90s with Sega basically having that be their brand LOL and even Sony doing it with Crash Bandicoot commercials where he's calling out Mario LOL.

I honestly feel sorry for everyone who was born especially after 2007, what a BS world they grow up in!!!! lolol

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Wow.

So 2 years ago PS2 was as old as Atari 2600 when PS2 was new!!!

Woooooooooooooooowwwww.

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lolol

The technological gap was massive.

 

[Yousef Yousef]

too many examples of this that not a lot stand out in my opinion.
I guess maybe Ace Attorney would be worth a mention, but that franchise was already a late boomer overseas, due to taking 5 years to localize its first game, then another 5 years to release it on new platforms, and another 5 to put it on steam. Ace Attorney is simultaneously very old and very fresh which is kinda bizarre to contemplate.

 

[Clippy]

I think my favorite of these is that GTA Vice City is older now than 1986 was when it came out.

 

[bjork]

I honestly feel sorry for everyone who was born especially after 2007, what a BS world they grow up in!!!! lolol

Things started going off the rails once people born in the 90s could talk

 

[Yousef Yousef]

Things started going off the rails once people born in the 90s could talk

As someone with two siblings born in the 90s this is true.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

I think my favorite of these is that GTA Vice City is older now than 1986 was when it came out.

Now that one hurts.

It has the same feelings as

 

[Segadude113]

As someone with two siblings born in the 90s this is true.

my sister was born a few days after Sonic 1 released. I was born in '89, a few days after Osamu Tezuka died.