Why not bring back Drum n' Bass & Jungle back to Video Games

[VodkaEnergee]

Some older games and some new, have D'n'B or Jungle Tracks. Racing games are a good genre for this. Still to this day DnB, Jungle and House music are mainly found Underground. Meaning you have to go out of your way to find them. Folk still make them, they may even pop up at random on Youtube.

There are plenty of unknown Developers on places like Twitter, or Youtube. If these old to new tracks are known more. There could be a Video Game Sound Revolution. People still talk about those old tracks in the older video games. The right music Changes and Influences a ton of things. Who knows what such tracks may awaken in others, to inspire them to make.

Hope this thread can help inspire new sounds, and through those sounds, great projects and so on.

Kerri Chandler is a good start for House Music. Frankie Knuckles?

M-Beat. Good Looking Records. DJ Krust's Do You Love Me. 4Hero and their old name Tom & Jerry, for some Drum n' Bass.

Or for something different. The Artist: Goldie. His album: Timeless (1995) Goldie also stared in James Bond's The World is not enough, as Mister Bullion. Some may know him from there.

One artist is LTJ Bukem. here is a playlist of some mixes:

Here is other places for some Tracks:
https://www.ravetapepacks.com/

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS2GxYE2O9RiJy2PLkIZIMg2iisbNlM-W

Some of these can even be found on Archive org. Or youtube. Could search on Discogs and Last.fm to discover more.

 

[OmegaKatanaXIII]

I remember some games that have it like Ape Escape it fit the times well and it helped elevate the game with its catchy tunes.

 

[MrFabulous]

Tracks like this are constantly getting used for Youtube videos/mixes or anything else that's video game related, there has to be some sort of demand for it for novelty alone but I still don't see any new devs going for it. Even those faux-retro PC games very minimalist electronic soundtracks, or try to make everything sound like Doom.

I always used to think of this as 'demo disc music' and it's so cool how the entire video game culture of that period was interwoven with it.

 

[VodkaEnergee]

Tracks like this are constantly getting used for Youtube videos/mixes or anything else that's video game related, there has to be some sort of demand for it for novelty alone but I still don't see any new devs going for it. Even those faux-retro PC games very minimalist electronic soundtracks, or try to make everything sound like Doom.

I always used to think of this as 'demo disc music' and it's so cool how the entire video game culture of that period was interwoven with it.

Do you recall Media such as Dreamcast Magazines:

Reason I ask is because of another Question. Do you think that bringing things back, such the Video Linked, along with Physical Demo Disc like old Pizza Hut ones? Ps2 ones, even? Do you think this would bring back more value and reason to certain physical media? Some people still like playing the Demos even though having the full game. Maybe the Demo has specific things or an aesthetic to it. This could be used to even gain interest in older games. Think how many handhelds and whatnot, there are now. What're your thoughts on this

Also for your initial comment. If there was some kind of push, because many do not really know of these kinds of underground sounds, or bother to dig. So if that, there would not be much of a demand due to the not much knowing. Do you think it will have a major influence on Game Sound, among other things? I ask because usually when some are introduced to such sounds, they love it and their entire Musical Ear is matured, changed.

Lastly. Do you think that this Comment Topic, along with my initial post would be good for to be an Individual Thread, and threads here on this forum? If so, Would you be interested in help spreading expansions of thought like this. I try to bring certain Topics to this Forum. What are your and others who may see this, thoughts on this

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I remember some games that have it like Ape Escape it fit the times well and it helped elevate the game with its catchy tunes.

The post for MrFabulous was originally for You, but since the user mentioned Demos, I thought it was more fitting. Though your thoughts on this would be great as a whole, as well.

 

[kitestar]

They sure seem alive and well in rhythm games, last time I recall DDR or iidx still had that in spades

 

[VodkaEnergee]

They sure seem alive and well in rhythm games, last time I recall DDR or iidx still had that in spades

What are your thoughts on the Migration of these Sounds to other Game Genres? Like what I gave for examples, for example. Not just for Rhythm specific games. Considering the comments above. Do you think it would benefit in a major way, on a multitude of levels as a whole?

 

[Ikagura]

I do agree but sadly it was the zeitgest of the turn of the millennium.

 

[VodkaEnergee]

I do agree but sadly it was the zeitgest of the turn of the millennium.

It is not sad at all. That spirit and mood is still quite very alive. It is just back to what it was before. Underground. Things always rise then lower. This is the natural cycle of things. All that is required is more attention, push, passion, remembrance and awareness. Younger and Current Generations may not be as aware to such Sounds. People are only going to move off of what they know. Just because ones forgot or don't talk about things. Doesn't mean things have changed. Such the saying, "Some things change, some things stay the same." The Youth's job is to keep the Older up to date. The Older's job is to remind and introduce the Youth to things before them, so not to forget, negatively repeat, and to also build upon aka Quality of life changes. Which is why it is imperative to reintroduce such things.

An example is if what you say is true, then remakes and remasters would fail, because what is attempted to be brought back, only works in its original run. This also applies to all other things, no matter how rebranded or reinvented. If applying that Spirit and Mood. It is about how you go about it, first.

What are your further thoughts on all of this

 

[dropsmegamega]

They sure seem alive and well in rhythm games, last time I recall DDR or iidx still had that in spades

not really, they only have then because they still keep songs from their ps2 era, but most new stuff sounds nothing like jungle/dnb of late 90s early 00s, principally iidx which is obsessed with being modern

 

[VodkaEnergee]

not really, they only have then because they still keep songs from their ps2 era, but most new stuff sounds nothing like jungle/dnb of late 90s early 00s, principally iidx which is obsessed with being modern

Taking into account the previous things written above. What are your thoughts, and how would you go about trying to reintroduce such sounds, to Current, Older and Younger Generations? As well how do you think it should go, to be reintroduced. Both indie (Meaning more in the hands of the people to influence), and corporate. I say and feel this is one of many major things that should be seriously and deeply talked about.

The Entity known as Music runs so deep that it heals and has effects on organs, among other things, including minds. Emotions, too. Because once one is open on an emotionally level, they can be manipulated like a puppet.

Again. What are your further thoughts on all of this, here, as a whole

 

[monochromeorange]

3 words 1 number: street fighter 3rd strike.

 

[Derpmanandhisamazingfrens]

I do miss those, now that I think about it :/

 

[VodkaEnergee]

3 words 1 number: street fighter 3rd strike.

I do miss those, now that I think about it :/

On the topic of Sounds, to go off track from jungle and dnb a little. Consider other artist like Tommy Guerrero, Pete Rock, J Dilla, 1969 Brazilian Octopus Album, Azymuth, Cal Tjader, Marcos Valle, Pino D'Angio, Fela Kuti, Jeff Lorber, Roy Ayers for some examples. What game genre's do you think could benefit from such sounds? If one may think that is odd, just think of examples like the Bully Soundtrack: Vendetta Preps. That is a remix of Michael Jackson's Billy Jean. Or the DBZ Budokai 3 Original Soundtrack.

 

[dropsmegamega]

Taking into account the previous things written above. What are your thoughts, and how would you go about trying to reintroduce such sounds, to Current, Older and Younger Generations? As well how do you think it should go, to be reintroduced. Both indie (Meaning more in the hands of the people to influence), and corporate. I say and feel this is one of many major things that should be seriously and deeply talked about.

The Entity known as Music runs so deep that it heals and has effects on organs, among other things, including minds. Emotions, too. Because once one is open on an emotionally level, they can be manipulated like a puppet.

Again. What are your further thoughts on all of this, here, as a whole

Has a music genre ever fallen into obscurity and then revived? And I mean actually revived as it was before, instead of a modern take? It probably has happened, but it seems so unlikely to me in this day and age.

Music industry in general loves to look "modern" and the "new". At some point japanese producers downright abandoned the old sample albums that were essential to genres like dnb because their quality is too low for modern standards (or at least they think so). Indie scene has revived interest (and sometimes corporates are influenced by indie), but its either a novelty retro thing or some weird mix of breakcore, vocaloid and other internet culture things.

 

[Saint_c]

Drum and Bass is still around but it's just more uncommon these days compared to the 90's/00's. Bomberman Hero is a great snapshot of it's era and one of my favorite OSTs. Here's two of my favorite mixes.

 

[C-Puff]

Just adding that my favourite person that makes mixes of this genre on youtube is a DJ called Pizza Hotline. And I know they make their own music as well in the same genre. I know my youtube is catered specifically to the kinds of things I click on and listen to (meaning I get fed more of them) but I do feel the popularity of youtube mix videos are doing a good service of spreading awareness of music genres like this. And I think the more popular it gets as a sort of retro-throwback style, the more likely it'll be to be used in games again. Much like the retro PS1 look is popular with indie devs.

I know for a fact ThorHighHeels on youtube makes PS1 inspired music which he's done for a friend's indie game. So there is definitely a market for these things. And it has its popularity. One that I think is growing to a certain degree but again, my youtube algorithm makes me bias into thinking it's more popular than it might be.

But it shouldn't get too popular too quickly or the same thing will happen to it that happened to seapunk.

 

[Tsukomasi]

I agree when it comes to major games!
Indie games (especially those with old Y2K vibes) are pretty good at keeping that classic Soichi Terada sort of feel around, like VIVIDLOPE for example:

It's definitely an issue with some long running series losing their identity musically for sure though. I think the best example for me is the Super Monkey Ball series. The first few games have a blend of that old school, arcadey techno and electronic stuff, whereas the new titles go for a really boring and forgettable style of music that doesn't stick out much to me...

 

[Ikagura]

I got that game on PC and Switch. Really a good game.

Crossniq+ is also similar.