What is your views related to Pirating?

[nonotz]

hold off your horses, Luffy... not that kind of pirating

i mean about software / games / movies / music /others piracy
where do you draw the line ?

do you paid that winrar that you used for 10+ years?
are you cruising the high seas of torrents ?
do you only support indie devs?
do you purchase everything legally and pirates nothing?
what do you do with items not available in your area? or no longer supported (e.g. retro games)

feel free to ramble below but please respect others' opinion

If buying is not owning then pirating is not stealing - Unknown

Piracy doesn't hurt an artist unless the artist puts out a bad album - Eminem

Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem - Gabe Newell

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Moderation note: To discuss specific issues within the "piracy vs preservation" of video games and other things around that debate, the most appropriate thread is this one.

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[Yousef]

I’M GONNA KING OF THE PIRATES- oh you mean the other kind of pirating. I guess I’m kinda neutral on it.

 

[kingofdragons]

When the world is a fair and just place I'll stop pirating.

 

[nonotz]

I’M GONNA KING OF THE PIRATES- oh you mean the other kind of pirating. I guess I’m kinda neutral on it.

Gol D Roger is that you?
but where is "Neutral" ?

When the world is a fair and just place I'll stop pirating.

One day...

 

[Waffles's iconWaffles]

I pirate the things they won't let me buy.

 

[Yousef]

Gol D Roger is that you?
but where is "Neutral" ?


One day...

Neutral is.. where I hid the One Piece!
Neutral is just not having a strong stance on it. I’ve pirated games that got delisted from steam (Deadpool, Strong Bad) and that’s it.

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I pirate the things they won't let me buy.

Huh, we do think alike.

 

[fake-kun]

If I were against it, I wouldn't be here, now, would I?

 

[Dskittlz]

 

[spectresfrommercury]

i do that shit to anime all the time lol

 

[Poltergeist]

do you paid that winrar that you used for 10+ years?

I didn't use winrar for 10+ years, I was always a 7zip kinda person.

are you cruising the high seas of torrents ?

There's a button called The Repo, this is why we're all here in the first place.

do you only support indie devs?

Not only, but I like the idea of supporting indie devs. I have purchased quite a bit of indie games on online services.

do you purchase everything legally and pirates nothing?

I pirate a lot, I also buy a lot.

what do you do with items not available in your area? or no longer supported (e.g. retro games)

Pirate them of course, what else to do?

 

[Scum Of Orion]

Piracy is ultimately the least harmful form of theft. People who pirate deliberately over any other option were never likely customers in the first place.
And with the enshitification of so many services such as streaming and the idea of ownership being openly questioned by companies who only want to sell licenses to play that they can pull, piracy becomes more and more preferable to supporting those industries.
So much stuff is lost media now, never to be released, or puled from store shelves just to be repackaged later.
Much as I'd like to own every game I play, when the orignal version is locked behind massive paywalls, can be taken away from me at any time, or just straight up unavailable at all piracy becomes less and less an issue.
so overall, neutral and I don't question it happening at all anymore.

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i do that shit to anime all the time lol

I'll be damned to hell before I pay crunchyroll for shit

 

[Yousef]

We have enough pirates here to find the one piece

 

[nonotz]

I figure I used to own many games physically that I don't now, and I can't just walk into a retro game store with a smile on my face ready to drop 500 dollars on a SNES cartridge or equivalent. If I've got a peg leg for notions like that so be it. Even 60-70 dollars on a modern game is often wild to me. I can't make the purchase unless I'm sure the game is up my alley.

the price of physical retro games is just ridiculous, i want to collect but the price is too damn high

i do that shit to anime all the time lol

well accessibility is a problem for animes

Piracy is my get go nowadays,i stopped buying stuff in late 2000s because taking care of the cd was not reliable(stopped buying games at PS2 gen),taking more space and getting expensive,i do not consider buying digital nowadays too,though i did buy a modded Xbox360 on that period just to play some games like Ninety Nine Nights,Nier,Enchanted Arms,Blue Dragon and something like Lost Odyssey,Eternal Sonata over that times because X360 emulation was still on infancy back then(run very bad and unplayable)

did you sell all your physical or do you still have them ?

I believe in financially rewarding people who offer something of value to me. I pirate games when there's dumb things getting in between me and what I want, like some intrusive DRM, or a delisting. If they won't accept money for it, I won't give it to them.

I pirated PowerSlave for Sega Saturn because there's no way to legally own it without giving your money to greedy middlemen on eBay. When Nightdive released the remastered port on Steam, I bought it day one at full price.

Meanwhile, I bought Mass Effect: Legendary Edition on Steam when it released, and I regret it. Pirates get a much better experience with that game than the suckers who gave EA their money, like any game that has that dumb EA launcher.

Some people have a very cavalier attitude towards piracy, as in they pirate everything, even if they can pay for it. I don't do this myself, but I'm no narc. I can't blame anyone for it, especially when I made the mistake of giving EA my money. Gross.

EA can eat shit.. i have no love for EA

 

[RageBurner]

The scummier the company, the more glee I feel in sailing the seas.

 

[Xyra]

I pirate things I can't afford meaning everything from my music to my movies

It is what it is

 

[ATenderLad]

I know it's wrong, and would never violate the rights of the owners of any intellectual property I didn't own.

Also, everyone in this thread sent a DM to assure me they were joking. It was a huge relief, I was so worried about having to involve the proper authorities.

 

[VampireLord1024VampireLord1024's icon]

I guess it's fine?

 

[Lime]

Where I live everyone does it, I've even had teachers at school give ebooks that are marked as coming from Z-library.

If you ask me the whole concept of "IP" only exists nowadays so that rich people can treat characters and other fictional things as property to be bought and sold, it has nothing to do with protecting artists anymore, if it ever even did. It's easy to see why most people don't want to bother with it.

 

[Teone]

Moderation note:

Most of the messages originally here were focusing on the debate around video game piracy and preservation, but this is the General Discussion section, which is intended to anything but gaming. Since we already had a previous thread in the general Gaming section that turned itself into a debate on "digital vs physical + piracy vs preservation", we moved the messages here to there, making a stronger single thread.

In short, there was a thread initially for one thing, turned into other thing and now we moved gaming comments from here to there.

Where I live everyone does it, I've even had teachers at school give ebooks that are marked as coming from Z-library.

It's the same here in Brazil. I only had one teacher once that was full of pretentiousness around it, refusing to share knowledgement "because of copyright", when actually he was just a lazy teacher that didn't want to deal with computers and digital files.

 

[Yukyon]

Piracy has always been around me since I was a kid. in México when I was little it was and still is very common to come across people that sell piracy from cds to ps2 games.
In my case we used to go to a flea market after Sunday mass to get our groceries, and while we were there we bought movies or og xbox discs.
It was impossible to come across a ps1, ps2 or Xbox that wasn't modded to accept disc copies.

I did stop pirating stuff (mostly) when Netflix came around and I started earning money, Since what I used to pirate was stuff I couldn't get before.

So, now I just sail the seas when there is something that certain companies make no effort on offering anymore

 

[ObscureJigglypuff]

I have no views because both of my eyes have an eye patch.

DO YOU SEE MY PIRATE SPIRIT, AYE?

 

[Lee__Kanker]

It's better than sex

 

[Blamhammer]

I can't remember the book author's name but they said something like "if your country has a gdp per capita less than $10000 then go ahead and pirate my book".
World Bank

Uhh, maybe bump that figure upto $20000 instead? Idk how ecomomics work, it's all just numbers prancing about on those big screens causing everyone within their viewing distance to suffer high blood pressure.

 

[Deleted member 884]

"God" bless it.

 

[Tonberry]

i mean about software / games / movies / music /others piracy
where do you draw the line ?

I'm ambivalent towards it in general, and it's more a means to an end than anything else.

Sometimes I buy stuff, sometimes I pirate stuff. But I usually pirate old stuff/stuff I already own someplace else/retro things that are near-impossible to get. I rarely pirate new games because it's usually too much of a hassle to keep them updated wtc, and I mostly play games on console anyway.
I try to buy games I like made by tiny teams, because it feels like the money goes to the individuals more than, say, pirating an Ubisoft or Nintendo game, but I generally make a point not to make a big deal out of it so it doesn't look like I'm doing it grandstand or whatever.

My dad is a TV enthusiast as much as I am a games enthusiast so I can generally watch any show/movie I want on one of the billion streaming services he uses, and the very few anime shows I watch are usually able to be streamed from some shady site or other.