What is your views related to Pirating?

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hold off your horses, Luffy... not that kind of pirating

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i mean about software / games / movies / music /others piracy
where do you draw the line ?

do you paid that winrar that you used for 10+ years?
are you cruising the high seas of torrents ?
do you only support indie devs?
do you purchase everything legally and pirates nothing?
what do you do with items not available in your area? or no longer supported (e.g. retro games)

feel free to ramble below but please respect others' opinion

If buying is not owning then pirating is not stealing - Unknown
Piracy doesn't hurt an artist unless the artist puts out a bad album - Eminem
Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem - Gabe Newell
 
I’M GONNA KING OF THE PIRATES- oh you mean the other kind of pirating. I guess I’m kinda neutral on it.
 
Gol D Roger is that you?
but where is "Neutral" ?


One day...
Neutral is.. where I hid the One Piece!
Neutral is just not having a strong stance on it. I’ve pirated games that got delisted from steam (Deadpool, Strong Bad) and that’s it.
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I pirate the things they won't let me buy.
Huh, we do think alike.
 
I figure I used to own many games physically that I don't now, and I can't just walk into a retro game store with a smile on my face ready to drop 500 dollars on a SNES cartridge or equivalent. If I've got a peg leg for notions like that so be it. Even 60-70 dollars on a modern game is often wild to me. I can't make the purchase unless I'm sure the game is up my alley.
 
Piracy is my get go nowadays,i stopped buying stuff in late 2000s because taking care of the cd was not reliable(stopped buying games at PS2 gen),taking more space and getting expensive,i do not consider buying digital nowadays too,though i did buy a modded Xbox360 on that period just to play some games like Ninety Nine Nights,Nier,Enchanted Arms,Blue Dragon and something like Lost Odyssey,Eternal Sonata over that times because X360 emulation was still on infancy back then(run very bad and unplayable)
 
I believe in financially rewarding people who offer something of value to me. I pirate games when there's dumb things getting in between me and what I want, like some intrusive DRM, or a delisting. If they won't accept money for it, I won't give it to them.

I pirated PowerSlave for Sega Saturn because there's no way to legally own it without giving your money to greedy middlemen on eBay. When Nightdive released the remastered port on Steam, I bought it day one at full price.

Meanwhile, I bought Mass Effect: Legendary Edition on Steam when it released, and I regret it. Pirates get a much better experience with that game than the suckers who gave EA their money, like any game that has that dumb EA launcher.

Some people have a very cavalier attitude towards piracy, as in they pirate everything, even if they can pay for it. I don't do this myself, but I'm no narc. I can't blame anyone for it, especially when I made the mistake of giving EA my money. Gross.
 
I used to buy all of my games, but nowadays i need to know if i like a game before deciding on a purchase, and most games don't offer demos, so a bit of what big corporations call piracy is needed every now and then.
 
do you paid that winrar that you used for 10+ years?
I didn't use winrar for 10+ years, I was always a 7zip kinda person.
are you cruising the high seas of torrents ?
There's a button called The Repo, this is why we're all here in the first place. ::biggrin
do you only support indie devs?
Not only, but I like the idea of supporting indie devs. I have purchased quite a bit of indie games on online services.
do you purchase everything legally and pirates nothing?
I pirate a lot, I also buy a lot.
what do you do with items not available in your area? or no longer supported (e.g. retro games)
Pirate them of course, what else to do?
 
Piracy is ultimately the least harmful form of theft. People who pirate deliberately over any other option were never likely customers in the first place.
And with the enshitification of so many services such as streaming and the idea of ownership being openly questioned by companies who only want to sell licenses to play that they can pull, piracy becomes more and more preferable to supporting those industries.
So much stuff is lost media now, never to be released, or puled from store shelves just to be repackaged later.
Much as I'd like to own every game I play, when the orignal version is locked behind massive paywalls, can be taken away from me at any time, or just straight up unavailable at all piracy becomes less and less an issue.
so overall, neutral and I don't question it happening at all anymore.
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i do that shit to anime all the time lol
I'll be damned to hell before I pay crunchyroll for shit
 
I figure I used to own many games physically that I don't now, and I can't just walk into a retro game store with a smile on my face ready to drop 500 dollars on a SNES cartridge or equivalent. If I've got a peg leg for notions like that so be it. Even 60-70 dollars on a modern game is often wild to me. I can't make the purchase unless I'm sure the game is up my alley.

the price of physical retro games is just ridiculous, i want to collect but the price is too damn high

i do that shit to anime all the time lol
well accessibility is a problem for animes

Piracy is my get go nowadays,i stopped buying stuff in late 2000s because taking care of the cd was not reliable(stopped buying games at PS2 gen),taking more space and getting expensive,i do not consider buying digital nowadays too,though i did buy a modded Xbox360 on that period just to play some games like Ninety Nine Nights,Nier,Enchanted Arms,Blue Dragon and something like Lost Odyssey,Eternal Sonata over that times because X360 emulation was still on infancy back then(run very bad and unplayable)
did you sell all your physical or do you still have them ?

I believe in financially rewarding people who offer something of value to me. I pirate games when there's dumb things getting in between me and what I want, like some intrusive DRM, or a delisting. If they won't accept money for it, I won't give it to them.

I pirated PowerSlave for Sega Saturn because there's no way to legally own it without giving your money to greedy middlemen on eBay. When Nightdive released the remastered port on Steam, I bought it day one at full price.

Meanwhile, I bought Mass Effect: Legendary Edition on Steam when it released, and I regret it. Pirates get a much better experience with that game than the suckers who gave EA their money, like any game that has that dumb EA launcher.

Some people have a very cavalier attitude towards piracy, as in they pirate everything, even if they can pay for it. I don't do this myself, but I'm no narc. I can't blame anyone for it, especially when I made the mistake of giving EA my money. Gross.

EA can eat shit.. i have no love for EA
 
I know it's wrong, and would never violate the rights of the owners of any intellectual property I didn't own.

Also, everyone in this thread sent a DM to assure me they were joking. It was a huge relief, I was so worried about having to involve the proper authorities.
 
I am always pirating these abandonware games and films, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it??????

But I don't bother pirating new games because if its a very good game I want to use my friends copy for steam achievements support it and if not I won't bother DL'ing 100+gb for a mid game when I have a backlog with hundreds of better games
 
Friendly reminder that piracy not only doesn't thwart profits (since people who wouldn't be able to pirate wouldn't buy anyway) but can in fact boost sales via word of mouth and so on. There's a study conducted by the EU that proves this and the only reason we actually have said study is because the German Party of Pirates wouldn't let it get buried by the corrupt eurocrat bastards. I'll attach it for anyone who's bored enough to give it a read. I won't since the file is too large apparently. Google EU piracy displacement study and I'm sure you'll find it.

Other than that, if you can support a game dev who made a game you like, do so! Spread the word too! They won't be able to make more games otherwise.
 

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