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[LaserMoose]

Nintendo is completely out of touch. They will have a rude awakening trying to compete with Playstation and XBOX as if Switch 2 is the next gen console, all the while the steam deck exists.
RIP Iwata

While I'm in agreement that they're out of touch, the comparisons between Xbox, Playstation and N does not appear to be very applicable anymore. A hybrid system compared to a home console doesn't make much sense if they're meant for two different demographics. It's why the Switch was consistently called a "second system," as many owned both a PS4 and a Switch, or a PC and a Switch.

Xbox has marketed itself towards users looking to play games using the Game Pass service. I'm not so sure if the console games on Xbox are too interesting for your Pokémon or Mario players.

Playstation have been pushing their more story-oriented, big budgeted experience games (modern GoW, Last of Us) which don't seem to appeal to the Switch's main family demographic, either.

 

[cjl8336]

the switch 2 will be guaranteed to fail in accordance with the Law of Windows Versions
gamecube - failed
wii - successful
wii u - failed
switch - successful

 

[Krazy Kat]

Wii u failed because it didn't get proper ads, most of the common adult only see wii u is another addons for the wii
it should be named Wii 2 instead of wii u

if switch is named switch u it will definetely failed, without proper upgrade of the processor and the graphics it will be failed

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maybe a handheld android?

retroid pocket 5 is just enough for the android and retro gaming right now

 

[Zerpina]

You can buy 27 kilograms (59.5 pounds) of potatoes, and start a potato party.

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You know, not to be a contrarian or anything, but I feel like everyone says this type of thing every time Nintendo announces a new console, and then it sticks around because people love Pokemon and it ends up getting a bunch of games.
I remember when the Wii U was surely the end of Nintendo as a hardware manufacturer, and more recently when the Switch was proof they were out of touch.
They survived the N64 and Gamecube back-to-back, I'm sure they will survive a less-successful follow-up to a console that made them literally more money than they knew what to do with.

While I get the sentiment that Nintendo has historically bounced back from less than stellar consoles, I think it’s important to recognize that the video game landscape is constantly evolving, and the challenges they face today are different from those of the past.

The sheer competition in the gaming market is more intense now than ever, Nintendo can’t rely solely on its legacy titles like Pokémon to carry them through. The gaming audience has diversified, and many gamers now are looking for more advanced hardware and an expansive library of third-party support, which has often been a struggle for Nintendo.
Nintendo’s future will hinge not just on its franchises but also on its ability to adapt . Relying on nostalgia may not be enough to ensure survival

Don't get me wrong, I am no fan of the big three locked-down OS machines

Not what I had in mind. I was thinking of those tiny Beelink mini PCs.

Those are really good. I don't know about the Beelink, but if you aren't looking for console-bound games, they are fine. Just make sure you know what you can and can't run on them. They, like a laptop, have limits. Though mini PCs are basically little packages of TNT nowadays and do well as <shudders>, Windows desktops, or even Batocera machines. Hell, I have an old USFF Dell OptiPlex 7010 here now (a pair was given to me), and it will run with the i7 and 8 GB of DDR3 (1600 MHz, mind you), PS2/DC up to 1080p with a lot of upscaling and tweaks turned up. The Wii is doable if you don't mind the native resolution (you can do some anti-aliasing, 4x I think), and it runs fine.

 

[longestseason]

They survived the N64 and Gamecube back-to-back, I'm sure they will survive a less-successful follow-up to a console that made them literally more money than they knew what to do with.

They survived because they always had a plan b: their handhelds. They don't have a plan b in case their home console flops anymore, but it's fine. They're gonna be fine. The Switch 2 is gonna sell well.

 

[Zerpina]

They survived because they always had a plan b: their handhelds. They don't have a plan b in case their home console flops anymore, but it's fine. They're gonna be fine. The Switch 2 is gonna sell well.

Yeah, they can't rely on handhelds as much anymore, seeing as the home console is the handheld as well.

 

[AlbinoDerpsheep]

Yeah, they can't rely on handhelds as much anymore, seeing as the home console is the handheld as well.
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And there's a new PC handheld coming out every month it seems. The Switch isn't the only device in its niche anymore. You'll see new ones all the time if you're subscribed to ETA Prime.

 

[Zerpina]

And there's a new PC handheld coming out every month it seems. The Switch isn't the only device in its niche anymore. You'll see new ones all the time if you're subscribed to ETA Prime.

You know I used to watch ETA Prime all the time when he did actual low cost budget stuff. Then all the sponsors rolled in, and now most of the time his "low cost" stuff is $300 plus, which is rent/food money for the month for some people. I know the guy have to make a living, and I don't dislike ETA. But now and again, I wish he would do a throwback $50 budget system again

 

[longestseason]

The Switch isn't the only device in its niche anymore.

That's true, however I don't think Nintendo would ever see this as an issue. They have the only game console in the market right now with actual console exclusive games. You know Mario Kart World is NEVER leaving the Switch 2. You can't say the same thing about any other platform.

 

[Krazy Kat]

Yeah, they can't rely on handhelds as much anymore, seeing as the home console is the handheld as well.
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there's a lot of competitor on handheld but none of them have the exclusive game like nintendo do, upgrade the specs and the graphics and have tons of library of games with its backward compatibility it will sells well on the market making sony cry and regret their decision for not keeping their exclusive games

 

[PurpleShoes]

While I get the sentiment that Nintendo has historically bounced back from less than stellar consoles, I think it’s important to recognize that the video game landscape is constantly evolving, and the challenges they face today are different from those of the past.

The sheer competition in the gaming market is more intense now than ever, Nintendo can’t rely solely on its legacy titles like Pokémon to carry them through. The gaming audience has diversified, and many gamers now are looking for more advanced hardware and an expansive library of third-party support, which has often been a struggle for Nintendo.
Nintendo’s future will hinge not just on its franchises but also on its ability to adapt . Relying on nostalgia may not be enough to ensure survival

Don't get me wrong, I am no fan of the big three locked-down OS machines

I think, from high up in gaming internet discourse it's easy to feel like THE PEOPLE ARE WISING UP TO NINTENDO, but I've known quite a few people who haven't heard from the Internet Outrage Machine™, and are unflapped in their excitement. This is not counting the three middle-aged line cooks I work with who only care about the new nintendo. I really doubt they're three of a kind.
I'm very much of the opinion that there are no good or bad pieces of media, so I guess I don't really buy any system being without merit. You personally may not get the appeal, but I'm sure the people who do indeed pick one up, the kids to be raised on Switch 2, the diehards will all find much to its merit. Idk, something just feels unscientific to me to assume that any given thing exists solely on nostalgia.

They survived because they always had a plan b: their handhelds. They don't have a plan b in case their home console flops anymore, but it's fine. They're gonna be fine. The Switch 2 is gonna sell well.

No product has an install-base of zero. The Gizmondo did pretty decent financially with literally less than fifty games to its name. My beloved overpriced, underpowered niche Playdate has a pretty devoted community developing off-the-wall RPGs and Shmups for it. Even if you fail to conceive of Nintendo Devotees, surely a decent chunk of average consumers will buy it just based on the laws of probability, no? I'm sorry, I just find it so inconceivable that Nintendo capsizes from this as a few have suggested in these threads. I also kind of object to the eagerness for this outcome a lot seem to have.
Like, we all agree SEGA leaving the Hardware market and nearly going bankrupt was bad for game diversity, right? Lamenting the gone-too-soon dreamcast. Even if you're a Lvl 10 S++ tier gamer who's smarter than those filthy casuals on their consoles, wouldn't you be kind of bummed for all those disappointed by it?

 

[Krazy Kat]

Sega death because it was late arriving to the market, i'm sorry for saying this Sega dreamcast console model are very obsolate compared to the ps2 and it only sells the graphics not the fun.

to be frank lets talk about home console past ps4 era most of the games aren't made for group people sharing on one screen the game selection is limited to fighting game or sport genre only. on the 2000-2012 era i've had very best memories when it come christmas and holiday, most our relatives and friends come to our house playing bomberman, smackdown, gauntlet etc there's also a dare to the losers imagine 8 people with ps multitap addons, playing at the same time and share the same tv. Nowdays we play game seperately fornite, genshin impact connected to the internet booooriing without real life interaction

switch and wii on other hand is able and have plenty selection for a group game that is why it is called family console where everyone, every age, every gender could play, the game control is also simple

 

[Antilocal123]

Weed.

 

[longestseason]

No product has an install-base of zero. The Gizmondo did pretty decent financially with literally less than fifty games to its name. My beloved overpriced, underpowered niche Playdate has a pretty devoted community developing off-the-wall RPGs and Shmups for it. Even if you fail to conceive of Nintendo Devotees, surely a decent chunk of average consumers will buy it just based on the laws of probability, no? I'm sorry, I just find it so inconceivable that Nintendo capsizes from this as a few have suggested in these threads. I also kind of object to the eagerness for this outcome a lot seem to have.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. Nintendo has the strongest branding in the game industry in my opinion, and their fans are gonna buy anything from them as long as it has their logo on it.

 

[Duke_11037]

Miyoo a30 sucks, really. I have one it's among the few THE handheld I regret to have bought.

My favorite is the RG ARC-D with its 4 inch screen. It's dual boot with android/linux but I removed android to install the Rocknix (linux based CFW). I don't like android and the linux stock OS is OK but Rocknix is better.

First I ever bought is the Powkiddy v90, it's great with the triforce CFW https://github.com/TriForceX/MiyooCFW, but it's not powerful and you must shutdown the OS before shutting down the machine with the power button otherwise you get prompted with a "disk check" at reboot, and the bigger your SD card is the longer the disk check will last. Also, it's not based on retroarch, it's working with standalone emulators. You can run some PSX games like Dino Crisis for instance, but forget about tekken 3 and Command & Conquer, it's too demanding for that machine. Also, it runs on BL-5C battery (Nokia phone battery) which can be changed accessed easily but again it's only good at running anything below 6th gen consoles and few 6th gen console games.

It's highly customizable with TriForce CFW

IMO it's among the best handhelds you can have for $30/40, but nowadays you might as well go for the Miyoo Mini Plus (not tested) for roughly the same price tag.

If youre gonna get a clamshell you might as well get a rgxxsp. More firmware support, more powerful, and as someone who's owned both the build quality is wayy better.

 

[jul]

If youre gonna get a clamshell you might as well get a rgxxsp. More firmware support, more powerful, and as someone who's owned both the build quality is wayy better.

You mean RG35XXSP. I have it also, it's not bad but much heavier than the v90 for example, much more powerful also and more expensive evidently, it's not in the same category while both are clamshells. Screen isn't bad but tends to be a tad too much on the red side of the color spectrum if memory serves. Also, it tends to get hot, it's a bit annoying, not much but it's not a good feeling unless you live in Groenland I guess. It reminds you that it's working hard to deliver, sort of. And finally, it's "clicky" buttons make noise, that's probably the most annoying part, even the D-PAD is clicky, I don't like that.

I have this RG35XXSP, the v90 of course, the RG353M, RG353PS, the a30 as already mentioned above, the RGNano, the GKD pixel, the GKD Bubble and a RG ARC-D...

If I had to keep only one it would be the ARC-D. 99% of the time I play on this one, the 4inch display makes a world of a difference. If I had to keep only 2 it would be RG ARC-D and the GKD pixel. If Only 3, RG ARC-D, GKD pixel, and v90.

And If I had to throw one in the dumpster it would be the a30. It's mostly ugly and feels like it's going to break, you can feel you can twist it sideways.

RG Nano is great, great stock OS, great everything, but fails at anything above tekken 2 and the screen ratio 1:1 isn't a great idea, at all. The GKD PIxel is a much better machine IMO, but the stock OS is a disaster, CFW is mandatory.

 

[Opapete]

Playstation have been pushing their more story-oriented, big budgeted experience games (modern GoW, Last of Us) which don't seem to appeal to the Switch's main family demographic, either.

Honestly, Sony's Playstation had a shot at becoming the new family console with the PS4 and the whole Wii U situation, but even back then, almost all of their games were low energy, low stakes, high investment type of games, meanwhile comparing to Nintendo, their games are much more of a wide spectrum with something like Warioware being high energy, no stakes, low investment and stuff like Xenoblade being low energy, medium stakes, high investment. Sony really had no system sellers they made on their own up until Gran Turismo, basically everything that sold systems was made by third parties.

Gran Turismo as a series can be summed up as high energy, medium stakes, medium investment and lots of the other Sony made games were medium energy, low stakes, low investment. Skipping ahead 2 generations of gaming, Sony bought Naughty Dog a decade ago and now need a zombie game for the PS3. The result was the game that later on tarnished Naughty Dog's and Sony's reputation, The Last of Us. It very much is low energy, low stakes, high investment, which isn't the actual issue, the issue is that Sony was smelling Gran Turismo style money, and decided that now would be the time to make all their games like that. It did not work. To be fair, God of War 2016 was good, but they then dropped the ball with Ragnarok hard.

But I intentionally left out the PS2. For a very good reason even, it is because that was the time when Sony was more like Nintendo in terms of putting out all kinds of games which ranged wildly in terms of energy, stakes and investment. The PS4 only continued the road Sony was going down on, they didn't budge in the slightest, which ment that their one shot at dethroning Nintendo for good was gone and won't be coming back until at least the next console generation. (the PS5 has no games and is about as expensive as Switch 2, PS5 Pro is just a more powerful PS5 and the price of it is E3 2006 levels of stupid)

Just saying, Sony doesn't want to appeal to Playstation fans as well, possibly because they can't, Metal Gear Solid is a Konami IP, Ridge Racer is a Namco (now Bandai Namco) IP, same with Ace Combat, same with Grand Theft Auto, same with Need for Speed, same with Burnout, same with God Hand, same with Time Crisis, and I could make this list even longer. They legally can't make these games, which are unfortunately for Sony, the games people associate with Playstation during it's golden days. It's over and done for, the times of third party exclusives are never coming back like it used to be the case. The only attachmental IP Sony still keeps alive is Gran Turismo, which has floundered about since the PS4 and GT7 only made fans more upset at both Kazunori and Sony.

I'm just saying, Sony doesn't know their own audience, how are they going to appeal to Nintendo's audience lmao

Edit: mistook E3 2005 with E3 2006, had to correct in order for the comparison to actually work

 

[Duke_11037]

You mean RG35XXSP. I have it also, it's not bad but much heavier than the v90 for example, much more powerful also and more expensive evidently, it's not in the same category while both are clamshells. Screen isn't bad but tends to be a tad too much on the red side of the color spectrum if memory serves. Also, it tends to get hot, it's a bit annoying, not much but it's not a good feeling unless you live in Groenland I guess. It reminds you that it's working hard to deliver, sort of. And finally, it's "clicky" buttons make noise, that's probably the most annoying part, even the D-PAD is clicky, I don't like that.

I have this RG35XXSP, the v90 of course, the RG353M, RG353PS, the a30 as already mentioned above, the RGNano, the GKD pixel, the GKD Bubble and a RG ARC-D...

If I had to keep only one it would be the ARC-D. 99% of the time I play on this one, the 4inch display makes a world of a difference. If I had to keep only 2 it would be RG ARC-D and the GKD pixel. If Only 3, RG ARC-D, GKD pixel, and v90.

And If I had to throw one in the dumpster it would be the a30. It's mostly ugly and feels like it's going to break, you can feel you can twist it sideways.

RG Nano is great, great stock OS, great everything, but fails at anything above tekken 2 and the screen ratio 1:1 isn't a great idea, at all. The GKD PIxel is a much better machine IMO, but the stock OS is a disaster, CFW is mandatory.

It's not that more expensive compared to the v90, snagged mine for about 50 dollars. I think the screen is lower quality in general because somehow specs of dust got stuff in the LCD?? I personally like the dpad it reminds me of the dsi one, which I do prefer. I only have two horizontal handhelds, q90 and r36h. The q90 died on me one day soooo there goes that one. I would recommend the r36h if they lower the price similar to the r36h, 25-35 which is amazing for something that can go up to psp and Dreamcast (struggles on more intensive games).

 

[moonbits]

you could go visit another state, have a nice vacation.

 

[popckorn]

I call him Wall-E.
He is my fren.
He cool.
:3

I use it more than my PS4, lol.
But it is because It is also a FLAC Audio Player with a good amplifier.

 

[PurpleShoes]

Weed.

I'd argue you're in Hash territory for $80