The Waifu Phenomenon

Yeah since normally people with real Autism don't go around and brag about it since its more a handicap for many and not something awesome like Hollywood makes it out to be with super abilities.

At least this is as far as my knowledge goes and it must be really annoying for you when so many people who are obviously not Autistic proclaiming to be Autistic for cloud like oh I love collecting butteflies I am so Autistic look or hey I am really invested into some Video Game lore so Autistic...

with that Logic I also would be autistic but I don't claim that since I never tested it and I am not keen on doing so either.

People need to learn being invested into something or being quirky is not = Autistic.
Absolutely. Autism is misrepresented as a superpower in media but in my experience it impairs far more than it empowers. Yes, it makes you prone to obsessive levels of interest in very specific things, and you can develop an abnormally high skill level in those areas, but it also makes you oversensitive in ways you can't control (like bright lights and loud noises) and socially retards you. I've been in more situations than I can count where someone got mad at me for not reading their mind. Apparently everyone else "just knows" and I'm an asshole for not "just knowing." Probably a factor in why I don't keep friends for long. It causes problems in my relationship too, because again, I'm not a mind reader. Or perhaps more accurately, I lack social instincts that others seem to innately possess which allow them to draw conclusions from non-verbal clues. I have to pay really close attention and try really hard to pick up on that kind of stuff because it's so alien to me. Can't people just communicate directly instead of all this body language and subtext shit? I guess not.
 
I often thought it was mostly done as a meme than seriously.

Characters often get their own fanbase and there are even ratings done (like in shonen Jump to see which is the most popular).
 
Absolutely. Autism is misrepresented as a superpower in media but in my experience it impairs far more than it empowers. Yes, it makes you prone to obsessive levels of interest in very specific things, and you can develop an abnormally high skill level in those areas, but it also makes you oversensitive in ways you can't control (like bright lights and loud noises) and socially retards you. I've been in more situations than I can count where someone got mad at me for not reading their mind. Apparently everyone else "just knows" and I'm an asshole for not "just knowing." Probably a factor in why I don't keep friends for long. It causes problems in my relationship too, because again, I'm not a mind reader. Or perhaps more accurately, I lack social instincts that others seem to innately possess which allow them to draw conclusions from non-verbal clues. I have to pay really close attention and try really hard to pick up on that kind of stuff because it's so alien to me. Can't people just communicate directly instead of all this body language and subtext shit? I guess not.
Not even sure If I would fault Autism for that since I am not that socially adapt myself as a Introvert
when I make contact I can hold bad conversations since I am not used to it either talking barely anything since I don't know any good topic or I talk to much to the point of annoyance.

I used to not filter my opinion around people about many topics including Politics (Which I won't bring up here) and it ended up with that person simply not inviting me again..ever before that I drunk coffee with him a couple of times but he told my ma not me directly that I am to political and that also in the open.
He could at least have told me in Person.

And as many other things its another one Hollywood misrepresents.
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I often thought it was mostly done as a meme than seriously.

Characters often get their own fanbase and there are even ratings done (like in shonen Jump to see which is the most popular).
So many things online appear like a Meme with the people can't seriously believe that or be like that..but then you come to the conclusion wait what they are fucking serious ???
 
Not even sure If I would fault Autism for that since I am not that socially adapt myself as a Introvert
when I make contact I can hold bad conversations since I am not used to it either talking barely anything since I don't know any good topic or I talk to much to the point of annoyance.

I used to not filter my opinion around people about many topics including Politics (Which I won't bring up here) and it ended up with that person simply not inviting me again..ever before that I drunk coffee with him a couple of times but he told my ma not me directly that I am to political and that also in the open.
He could at least have told me in Person.

And as many other things its another one Hollywood misrepresents.
I suppose the line between autistic and socially awkward introvert is thin. Or, at least there's a lot of overlap. In any case, that sucks, man. There are plenty of people I disagree with politically who I still love and accept the way they are. My grandma is always complaining about [redacted] but even though I disagree I wouldn't change her. In fact, most of my extended family hates [redacted] and it annoys me but I know I can't change their minds. You should be able to be honest about your opinions with the people in your life without losing them. Of course, I'm in the minority with that opinion; many people on both sides seem perfectly content to tear their families apart over differences in opinion.
 
I suppose the line between autistic and socially awkward introvert is thin. Or, at least there's a lot of overlap. In any case, that sucks, man. There are plenty of people I disagree with politically who I still love and accept the way they are. My grandma is always complaining about [redacted] but even though I disagree I wouldn't change her. In fact, most of my extended family hates [redacted] and it annoys me but I know I can't change their minds. You should be able to be honest about your opinions with the people in your life without losing them. Of course, I'm in the minority with that opinion; many people on both sides seem perfectly content to tear their families apart over differences in opinion.
Well you grandma is right I also hate [redacted] they are stealing our jobs
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but jokes aside yes Disagrements even Political once should not tear up families sadly it does nowadays far to often,
everything has become far to charged nowadays.
 
Despite being a fan of anime (even THAT kind of anime) I don't understand the trend of choosing a "waifu" and becoming emotionally attached to that character. Some people get a body pillow of that character and "cuddle it passionately." Some people choose this over a real relationship with a real woman. There are plenty of female anime characters I *like,* but I accept them as fictional and feel no desire to go that route.
As someone who got a body pillow and a character sheet for it (this is refferred too as a dakimakura in the actual channels) I use it because it actually supports my body and helps me sleep. I don't actually put much thought in the character that I am supposed to be hugging, it's just more comfortable looking at a character then a literal pillow.

I don't have a waifu or a husbando, and I don't chase relationships up in real life because I literally don't want one. Relationships ask me to compromise or come to a cost to find a sort of peace with that person. This is not something I want. I'm incredibly stubborn and completely unwilling to compromise for anyone - hence I prefer the bachelor life.
 
As someone who got a body pillow and a character sheet for it (this is refferred too as a dakimakura in the actual channels) I use it because it actually supports my body and helps me sleep. I don't actually put much thought in the character that I am supposed to be hugging, it's just more comfortable looking at a character then a literal pillow.

I don't have a waifu or a husbando, and I don't chase relationships up in real life because I literally don't want one. Relationships ask me to compromise or come to a cost to find a sort of peace with that person. This is not something I want. I'm incredibly stubborn and completely unwilling to compromise for anyone - hence I prefer the bachelor life.
I guess the question is, do you fuck the body pillow? O_o

I don't think I would count you as what I'm talking about since you don't seem to be trying to fill an emotional void in your life with a fictional character. It sounds like you just prefer being single, and that's fine.
 
I guess the question is, do you fuck the body pillow? O_o
I don't even really have a sexual drive lol, so that's definitely out of the question ::eggmanlaugh
Though I have seen people modify their body pillow for that purpose.
 
I don't even really have a sexual drive lol, so that's definitely out of the question ::eggmanlaugh
Though I have seen people modify their body pillow for that purpose.
Yeah, see, I was pretty sure that was a thing and now you're confirming it for me. I've read anonymous posts about it and stuff, and I just couldn't fill in the blanks between liking anime and fucking a waifu pillow. It seemed like a bit of a stretch. Maybe it's just rarer than the internet makes it seem.
 
Yeah, see, I was pretty sure that was a thing and now you're confirming it for me. I've read anonymous posts about it and stuff, and I just couldn't fill in the blanks between liking anime and fucking a waifu pillow. It seemed like a bit of a stretch. Maybe it's just rarer than the internet makes it seem.
While I do personally view the whole thing as completely disgusting, I'm glad they seem to have the common sense to refrain from ever showing such modifications and keeping it hidden. The less people know about the horrors of humanity such as the infamous "pony jar" the better.
 
You should be able to be honest about your opinions with the people in your life without losing them. Of course, I'm in the minority with that opinion; many people on both sides seem perfectly content to tear their families apart over differences in opinion.
I can understand people cutting ties if their family actively hate them and their group solely for existing.


I certainly prefer to just only hug them.....
Which is what they're made for in the first place.
 
I don't even really have a sexual drive lol, so that's definitely out of the question ::eggmanlaugh
Though I have seen people modify their body pillow for that purpose.
Do you have a Driver license ? no ! well how can you have a sex drive then ?
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but I did hear of this before Jaiden Animation I think it was that also has a low sex drive there was a specific term for it but I forgot it,so lets just call it the Panda syndrome for now.
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I can understand people cutting ties if their family actively hate them and their group solely for existing.
We are talking not about the extremes here but simple political disagrements in once Family not active hatred of once own children

And no disliking once preference or lifestyle does not mean you hate the person.
There are plenty of people with terrible life styles and preferences I dislike yet I don't hate the person for it.

Its more a dislike if they are dicks about it.

But generally Family should try to work things out since you only got one in life.
 
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There's a lot of explanations that don't involve the DSM. People naturally form parasocial relationships with media characters--books, cartoons, comics, games--anything. Our emotional systems can still respond authentically despite our knowing it isn't real. Most of us handle it just fine and not bleed into the sorts of things you're referencing.

Some individuals have had other things go on in their life where such relationships feel "safe". The character won't harm them or reject them. People with trauma, anxiety, and just trouble nagivating the social landscape and it's not because they're broken--they're just finding what works for them. It still doesn't need to rise to what some would say unhealthy, disturbing or creepy.

Not all people with waifus completely isolate themself. It's just a thing for them and they maintain normal relationships outside of things. It's just easy to focus on the "weird ones" because social media often brings them to the fore front. That's what we see, so it gets stereotyped as such.

On the autism take: I would have like to get ahead of this, but I arrive late. Armchair-diagnosing strangers based on a single behavior you find unusual is both scientifically meaningless and genuinely harmful--even if you share the diagnosis (like myself and all of us autists here are unique from each other). Yes, there's research showing that some autistic people can form strong connections to fictional characters—but correlation isn't causation, and more importantly, that research doesn't say what a lot of people think it says. Autistic people aren't a monolith, and neurotypical people engage in parasocial bonding constantly—sports fans, celebrity crushes, fictional OTPs, the works. Using "autistic" as shorthand for "weird thing I don't relate to or understand" isn't insight, it's a lazy dismissal dressed up as explanation. If you actually care about understanding why people form these attachments, psychological labels applied to strangers won't get you there.

My take: Some people really do prefer fictional intimacy over real relationships—that's valid if it doesn't involve harm, and leaves room for growth. Others treat it as a hobby or appreciation without deeper attachment. Both are normal variations.

We've seen this cycle before. In the 1970s-80s, psychologists and commentators warned about women becoming emotionally dependent on romance novel heroes—"fictional men" who offered perfect devotion without the messiness of real relationships. Today, romance novels are mainstream entertainment, and that specific moral panic faded. Similar concerns came up for online pen pals, grown adults still playing videogames, and even comic book collecting in earlier years. Each time, something that looked strange to outsiders turned out to be a normal variation of how people find connection and comfort.
 
I can understand people cutting ties if their family actively hate them and their group solely for existing.
Sure, but what if your family just disagrees with your perspective even though they still love and support you as an individual? If your family hates you for being the way you are or insists that you be a certain way I can understand cutting ties, but I also think people are too quick to discard their relatives over politics. I have a good example from my real life but I don't think I can talk about it openly without breaking the rules. So, I'll do my best to filter it down to make it forum-acceptable:

My brother and I disagree about the definition of a certain word. I accept him the way he is and respect his right to view the world however he wants, and live his life however he wants. I don't try to interfere with anything he does or try to change him. I certainly haven't made any attempts to cut him out of my life. However, he wants nothing to do with me just because I define that word differently than he does. He wishes he could force me to change my perspective and can't accept that I have a different opinion. So, we're basically estranged now because I can agree to disagree and he can't. Some people have valid reasons to cut ties with their families, but others are just so damn sensitive they can't handle being disagreed with. I feel like my brother belongs to the latter category.

No violation of rules intended. I did my best to tiptoe around the issue but if this post cuts it too close for comfort, moderators are free to delete it. Sorry if that was too political.
 
Otaku didn't really die off, it just got replaced with NEET, hikikomori, and weeb. They're all pretty similar term wise. Weeb is shorter so it caught on more like how normie was replaced with larper. It, like otaku was also previously an insult, but is now more of a reclaimed word that's used entirely ironically. NEET is in a similar boat. Hikikomori is a relatively modern term used to describe what's pretty much the otaku-pocalypse.
All these terms mean different things lol, they're not comparable at all, with the exception of NEET and hikikomori.

NEET's and hikikomori's are basically people who've given up on life essentially, but rather than ending it all, they choose to live as reclusive as possible.

Otaku literally just means "enthusiast" and that can apply to anything. Most people here probably associate it with anime, manga and gaming, but there's military otaku, motor otaku and train otaku as well for examples.

The whole weeb thing is blown way out of proportion as well. That whole stereotype barely existed in real people in the first place, and the term itself originates from Something Awful, where it was used to bully people who were into Japanese media (as well as a way for the users to be subtly xenophobic/racist towards Japanese people).

While there may be some overlap in these terms when applied to specific individuals, I still think it's a bit disingenuous to lump them all in the same basket when they're different terms with specific meanings.
 
He is very cute and makes me happy my life sucks ass so I want to spend as much time as possible looking at him. He sleeps with me in bed he is on my keys my computer and even my phone his smile makes me smile. I wouldn't consider my obsession a replacement for a relationship I'm not delusional I know he isn't real.
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He is very cute and makes me happy my life sucks ass so I want to spend as much time as possible looking at him. He sleeps with me in bed he is on my keys my computer and even my phone his smile makes me smile. I wouldn't consider my obsession a replacement for a relationship I'm not delusional I know he isn't real.
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Thanks, that does help me understand better.
 
My first attempt at this thread got nuked. I'm guessing it's because it referenced a certain type of anime that we all know exists but it's impolite to talk about in mixed company. You know, the kind you wouldn't watch at work. So, I'll try again to ask my question but clean it up this time:

Despite being a fan of anime (even THAT kind of anime) I don't understand the trend of choosing a "waifu" and becoming emotionally attached to that character. Some people get a body pillow of that character and "cuddle it passionately." Some people choose this over a real relationship with a real woman. There are plenty of female anime characters I *like,* but I accept them as fictional and feel no desire to go that route.

I'm not judging you, but if you have a "waifu," (or a "husbando") can you explain this to me?

(If this thread gets nuked too I'll probably give up. I'm curious, but not enough to cause problems.)
I have plenty of figures, perhaps more than I really should given my lowly finances, but I could never see them as a replacement for a real relationship. There are sometimes where I wish they were real, cuz they feel like my ideal woman, but I know it's purely fantasy and nothing more. I mean, my pfp is of my favorite Fire Emblem lady, but She is just a drawing at the end of the day.

I personally don't know why some people would go down that route. Is it Psychological? Perhaps it stems from extreme loneliness, maybe it's an inability to separate reality/fiction, or maybe it's just because the person can, because it's His/Her choice, and nothing more. I do wonder if it feels "natural" to those people, though.

That reminds me, wasn't there some dude in Japan whom "married" Hatsune Miku?
 
My Guess its either trough a game where you spend much time with them
or true media where you watch them so often that it feels personal as if you where there with them
they don't feel fictional or like strangers more like actual people you experienced a adventure with
I mean.. sorta..? A lot of the characters I latch onto can be pretty obscure and/or have very little media presence (like Seven from Beastars).
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Absolutely. Autism is misrepresented as a superpower in media but in my experience it impairs far more than it empowers. Yes, it makes you prone to obsessive levels of interest in very specific things, and you can develop an abnormally high skill level in those areas, but it also makes you oversensitive in ways you can't control (like bright lights and loud noises) and socially retards you. I've been in more situations than I can count where someone got mad at me for not reading their mind. Apparently everyone else "just knows" and I'm an asshole for not "just knowing." Probably a factor in why I don't keep friends for long. It causes problems in my relationship too, because again, I'm not a mind reader. Or perhaps more accurately, I lack social instincts that others seem to innately possess which allow them to draw conclusions from non-verbal clues. I have to pay really close attention and try really hard to pick up on that kind of stuff because it's so alien to me. Can't people just communicate directly instead of all this body language and subtext shit? I guess not.
It's hell, especially if you don't get diagnosed until adulthood like me where you feel like something is deeply wrong but you can't quite place it. It feels very alienating and for a long time I chalked it up to me just being weird, not really having an understanding of what autism really is.
 
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It's hell, especially if you don't get diagnosed until adulthood like me where you feel like something is deeply wrong but you can't quite place it. It feels very alienating and for a long time I chalked it up to me just being weird, not really having an understanding of what autism really is.
I feel you. Apparently my mom was going to have me tested when I was like 6, but some pediatrician told her I probably wasn't autistic because I had a friend at school. ~15 years later I got diagnosed. Whoops. Sure could have used those accommodations they make for autistic kids in grade school...
 
How is an insult used to describe toxic people online who are so obsessed with anime that they've deluded themselves into thinking themselves experts on Japanese culture "a reclaimed word used entirely ironically"? If anything, it's even more necessary to use it as an insult because of the loud hyper vocal minority of english Netto-Uyokus and Lolicons!
Before, being called a weeb was considered an insult. Nowadays, it's something people own since the internet grows and people find the next thing to insult. Well that and the normalisation of anime. Nobody's really offended from being called one like they were before. The same people who were called one as an insult use it for their own lingo or jokingly call themselves or others it. Assuming they'll even use it at all.
All these terms mean different things lol, they're not comparable at all, with the exception of NEET and hikikomori.

NEET's and hikikomori's are basically people who've given up on life essentially, but rather than ending it all, they choose to live as reclusive as possible.

Otaku literally just means "enthusiast" and that can apply to anything. Most people here probably associate it with anime, manga and gaming, but there's military otaku, motor otaku and train otaku as well for examples.

The whole weeb thing is blown way out of proportion as well. That whole stereotype barely existed in real people in the first place, and the term itself originates from Something Awful, where it was used to bully people who were into Japanese media (as well as a way for the users to be subtly xenophobic/racist towards Japanese people).

While there may be some overlap in these terms when applied to specific individuals, I still think it's a bit disingenuous to lump them all in the same basket when they're different terms with specific meanings.
You know what, entirely fair. I did not know there was military or motor otaku, all this time I just thought it was a specific negative term for anime and manga fanatics.
 
I once had a girl tell me that she loved Naruto. I was like "yeah, me too" and she said "well, no, like, he comforts me in my darkest hours, and I couldn't live without the thought of him, is that weird?" and I didn't know what to say to her, so I just told her "no, it's not, plenty of people feel that way about characters." I guess I just didn't want to say anything to upset her because I had a crush on her lol.

Nah, I've never really felt that way towards a fictional character, but I definitely have ones that I like a lot. Case in point I have Aelita from Code Lyoko in my pfp and Erika Karisawa from Durarara in my sig. I just like their vibes. That's as far as it ever goes for me.

Honestly I blame fan service for it. Seems like a lot of anime, even if it's not in the main show, they have an OVA that is based on the idea. Or it's like Ghost in the Shell where sexuality is a theme that ties with the character. I think it affects everyone differently. Especially deeply lonely dudes that not only don't give anyone a chance, but don't give themselves a chance so never try to put themselves out there out of shame and guilt.

Did have a crush on Frankie Foster as a young kid though, I like me a pretty redhead lol.
 
I once had a girl tell me that she loved Naruto. I was like "yeah, me too" and she said "well, no, like, he comforts me in my darkest hours, and I couldn't live without the thought of him, is that weird?" and I didn't know what to say to her, so I just told her "no, it's not, plenty of people feel that way about characters." I guess I just didn't want to say anything to upset her because I had a crush on her lol.

Honestly I blame fan service for it. Seems like a lot of anime, even if it's not in the main show, they have an OVA that is based on the idea. Or it's like Ghost in the Shell where sexuality is a theme that ties with the character. I think it affects everyone differently. Especially deeply lonely dudes that not only don't give anyone a chance, but don't give themselves a chance so never try to put themselves out there out of shame and guilt.
Solid points. I love a good anime and I'm not too proud to enjoy fan service, but some people just take fandom really far I guess. I can totally understand having a sentimental attachment to a fictional character you enjoy, but if it's taking the place of a real relationship in your life I think it's a personal problem in the life of the fan.
 

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