PC The Steam Machine lives!!

Yeah, that seems to be most peoples' concerns right now.
I've been out of the PC spec landscape for years now so it's all Greek to me, but even I reacted to that lol
8gb of vram is like the bare minimum for modern pc gaming these days. At least it's a dedicated GPU with the CPU having 16gb of ram to play with.

I myself probably won't pick up one since I already built a steam machine to play my steam games on my tv, but I can't wait for them to release SteamOS for desktop so I can finally replace Bazzite on it. Don't get me wrong that Bazzite/Chimaera get the job done, but it's definitely lacking features that a Steam Machine should have. There's some games I can't play on it due to controller mapping defaulting to the handheld controller which I can't use since I'm not on a handheld and they lack a controller ordering feature.
 

Today Valve announced 3 new pieces of hardware; Steam Controller, Steam Frame, and Steam Machine. There's already another thread talking about the Steam Machine so there's a brief mention on it. All 3 devices are planned for a 2026 release and no price point has been revealed. The Steam Frame looks to be their direct competitor to Meta Quest with it being a VR headset that doesn't need a PC to operate, they stated it isn't an Index 2 and is it's own category so it's possible that a sequel to the Index being a more powerful device coming down the line later. Of the 3 pieces of hardware revealed, the only one I might buy is the Steam Controller because I'm just a sucker for new controllers and probably have in the double digits of controllers laying around my room at this point <.<
 
Valve has been putting Gabe's lunch money into FEX for a few years now, and that will probably be a big paradigm shift once Frame is out.
 
Why is it not called: "Gabe Cube"

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The controller is a major improvement, worth it.
That 35 hour of battery life in a modern controller, think that just gave me a stiffy. That and having the d-pad to the left side of the controller while the left analog stick is to the right like a playstation controller makes it more ideal for 2d indies.

yoo this is actually preety hype, i was just about to post this myself
I was surprised no one posted before me, well except for the thread just talking about the Steam Machine while ignoring the Controller and Headset. Really looking forward to the controller now.
 
We always hear about hardware developers doing software, but a software developer making hardware is a first for me.

So...

Valve gonna just replace Microsoft now?

I'm mean, MS is slowly leaveing the hardware market (or at least seems to) and investing more on Game Pass and Windows integration so I think it wouldn't be a stretch to assume a possible Steam and Microsoft partnership with Valve providing the hardware and Microsoft providing Game Pass
 
We always hear about hardware developers doing software, but a software developer making hardware is a first for me.

So...

Valve gonna just replace Microsoft now?

I'm mean, MS is slowly leaveing the hardware market (or at least seems to) and investing more on Game Pass and Windows integration so I think it wouldn't be a stretch to assume a possible Steam and Microsoft partnership with Valve providing the hardware and Microsoft providing Game Pass

Valve's been in hardware for a while. They made Steam Controller, Index, and Steam Deck already. Steam Controller 2 is probably going to sell well since it has better magnetic sticks and all the features people love about the Deck.

Frame is going to push x86 PC gaming on ARM64, and the Machine is going to give console gamers PC games with entry level performance probably in and around the same ballpark as Series X & PS5.

Hard to say what will happen with Xbox. These days, Microsoft marketing can't clearly explain how to smash two rocks together without mass confusion.
 
We always hear about hardware developers doing software, but a software developer making hardware is a first for me.

So...

Valve gonna just replace Microsoft now?

I'm mean, MS is slowly leaveing the hardware market (or at least seems to) and investing more on Game Pass and Windows integration so I think it wouldn't be a stretch to assume a possible Steam and Microsoft partnership with Valve providing the hardware and Microsoft providing Game Pass
And Valve is more leaning into Linux and not Windows to avoid the Microsoft ecosystem. Out of the box on the Steam Machine you won't be able to play games like Battlefield 6 or any of your Windows Store games. I do agree with you about Microsoft probably going to leave the hardware space but disagree on who would handle Xbox hardware in the future. I see Microsoft doing a 3DO and licensing out their hardware brand to companies like Asus who already makes the Xbox handheld and probably a few others like MSI and Zotac. Lenovo has been more working with Valve with their handhelds having an option to come with SteamOS preinstalled. So it might be more of a new competition between Valve and Xbox granted the next Xbox will just have the Steam Storefront included in their OS.
 
the deck is amazing, really excited to see how these shape up. i think itll really come down to the price points, i think they have the ability to nuke xbox from the atmosphere if they play it right. i think the steam machine looks super cute :)
 
I gotta say I do not understand any of the hype surrounding this, it feels like it'll fail the same way the last Steam Machine did but I hope I'm just missing something.

It's interesting because from a casual gamer perspective, consoles at this point will still likely have the raw value proposition for purely playing games, but for someone who just wants their PC library in multiple rooms or is looking to jump into the PC space with ease, this should be huge if its priced right. My only worry is stuff like the 8gb of vram already feeling rough in some AAA games released in recent, let alone in 2026 and beyond. Not being upgradable and having less of a raw monetary value prop compared to just buying a used PS5 for like $250 makes it feel like a bit of a hard sell for anyone console only or anyone who cares about their setup being more future proof.

When I first heard about it, I was hella excited but the more I think about it, the less I really understand who exactly it's supposed to be for broadly. It has to be cheap enough that it feels like a decent alternative building an equivalently powered traditional PC but idrk if that's possible. $500-600 feels like about as high as it can go while still making a lot of sense, but even then, I'm just not sure who's gonna be excited for something that by some accounts could struggle with AAA in as early as 2-3 years and is already gonna have issues on some games. Are people really gonna get stoked to buy a box that has them running lower settings in a couple years that doesn't have the upgrade path of a traditional PC?

Idk why the original Steam Machine from the 2010s alongside other attempts at making a PC that mirrors a more console-esque experience failed, but surely all of this pondering has something to do with it. A big appeal of PC is the fact that you have more control and customization with both software and hardware, after all.

Like obviously anyone with a Steam library that this appeals to for any reason should likely get it unless the MSRP is ludicrous, but how many people out there already have a PC and are looking to get a second budget PC? How many people with outdated rigs are gonna wanna bottleneck their upgrade path by getting a Machine over just buying straight upgrades or even building an equivalent rig that they can further power up?

When it comes to existing console users maybe making the jump, you have 1-2 generations worth of games build up that you can't instantly take to PC. For someone entrenched in that space you have to offer more than just a box that can only somewhat outdo a 5 year old console at roughly the same price point, especially when again stuff like 8gb of vram is gonna mean that a lot of games won't really see drastic improvements over what you already get on PS5. The PS5 is still a great 1080p 60fps machine and this seems to be about the same on average with more demanding titles. I want to be more optimistic, but I don't really see existing PC players rushing out to get something like this as it lacks the handheld novelty of a Steam Deck and obviously won't compete with most people's existing rigs in a meaningful way. Again, potentially a cheap second setup to access your Steam library in multiple rooms of the house? Niche but sure ig. It won't entice most entrenched console players especially this late into a console generation. I do not know what person has built a library of PlayStation software since potentially 2013 that is gonna want a Steam Machine in 2026 when the PS6 is expected to launch in 2027. Maybe they're someone on the fence and this gives them a safe, accessible way to jump on board, but that has to be a pretty niche scenario, right?

Who is this really for?
 
I gotta say I do not understand any of the hype surrounding this, it feels like it'll fail the same way the last Steam Machine did but I hope I'm just missing something.

It's interesting because from a casual gamer perspective, consoles at this point will still likely have the raw value proposition for purely playing games, but for someone who just wants their PC library in multiple rooms or is looking to jump into the PC space with ease, this should be huge if its priced right. My only worry is stuff like the 8gb of vram already feeling rough in some AAA games released in recent, let alone in 2026 and beyond. Not being upgradable and having less of a raw monetary value prop compared to just buying a used PS5 for like $250 makes it feel like a bit of a hard sell for anyone console only or anyone who cares about their setup being more future proof.

When I first heard about it, I was hella excited but the more I think about it, the less I really understand who exactly it's supposed to be for broadly. It has to be cheap enough that it feels like a decent alternative building an equivalently powered traditional PC but idrk if that's possible. $500-600 feels like about as high as it can go while still making a lot of sense, but even then, I'm just not sure who's gonna be excited for something that by some accounts could struggle with AAA in as early as 2-3 years and is already gonna have issues on some games. Are people really gonna get stoked to buy a box that has them running lower settings in a couple years that doesn't have the upgrade path of a traditional PC?

Idk why the original Steam Machine from the 2010s alongside other attempts at making a PC that mirrors a more console-esque experience failed, but surely all of this pondering has something to do with it. A big appeal of PC is the fact that you have more control and customization with both software and hardware, after all.

Like obviously anyone with a Steam library that this appeals to for any reason should likely get it unless the MSRP is ludicrous, but how many people out there already have a PC and are looking to get a second budget PC? How many people with outdated rigs are gonna wanna bottleneck their upgrade path by getting a Machine over just buying straight upgrades or even building an equivalent rig that they can further power up?

When it comes to existing console users maybe making the jump, you have 1-2 generations worth of games build up that you can't instantly take to PC. For someone entrenched in that space you have to offer more than just a box that can only somewhat outdo a 5 year old console at roughly the same price point, especially when again stuff like 8gb of vram is gonna mean that a lot of games won't really see drastic improvements over what you already get on PS5. The PS5 is still a great 1080p 60fps machine and this seems to be about the same on average with more demanding titles. I want to be more optimistic, but I don't really see existing PC players rushing out to get something like this as it lacks the handheld novelty of a Steam Deck and obviously won't compete with most people's existing rigs in a meaningful way. Again, potentially a cheap second setup to access your Steam library in multiple rooms of the house? Niche but sure ig. It won't entice most entrenched console players especially this late into a console generation. I do not know what person has built a library of PlayStation software since potentially 2013 that is gonna want a Steam Machine in 2026 when the PS6 is expected to launch in 2027. Maybe they're someone on the fence and this gives them a safe, accessible way to jump on board, but that has to be a pretty niche scenario, right?

Who is this really for?

It's for PC gamers with Steam libraries, and the diaspora of gamers who don't, that may be fed up with Xbox, Nintendo, or Playstation.

It's for console gamers unwilling to take the risk or effort to deal with the learning curve of building or buying a traditional gaming PC, who are looking for a simpler choice, a big brand with a fixed console-like performance tier and interface, to take a lot of the headache out of knowing whether games will run on their hardware.

It makes the PC gaming library much more idiot proof, and with Proton being so good, and the Steam Controller 2 offering all the controller features of Steam Deck, improved without any stick drift, it is very likely to be the affordable "future proof" fork in the road, for console gamers to jump off of Xbox, Playstation, or Nintendo.
 
It's for PC gamers with Steam libraries, and the diaspora of gamers who don't, that may be fed up with Xbox, Nintendo, or Playstation.

It's for console gamers unwilling to take the risk or effort to deal with the learning curve of building or buying a traditional gaming PC, who are looking for a simpler choice, a big brand with a fixed console-like performance tier and interface, to take a lot of the headache out of knowing whether games will run on their hardware.

It makes the PC gaming library much more idiot proof, and with Proton being so good, and the Steam Controller 2 offering all the controller features of Steam Deck, improved without any stick drift, it is very likely to be the affordable "future proof" fork in the road, for console gamers to jump off of Xbox, Playstation, or Nintendo.
But for hardware like this in 2026? That does not scream future proof at all. "A PC experience that is about on par with what your consoles already delivers and has delivered for years that will likely get shown up by the next-gen version of your console in 1-2 years that at worst will cost like $100-200 more than the Steam Machine," is not a compelling sales pitch for anyone who isn't impulsive imo. Like if this came out in 2023 sure, but not in 2026.

And for people who already own extensive Steam Libraries with a PC, who is gonna double dip? I'm sure some folks just want a cheap PC to play some games in the living room instead of just their bedroom/study but that's gotta be rare right? No one with a decent or even entry level rig is gonna get anything out of this since it is ostensibly an upper-end entry rig in power and in some key ways is potentially lacking compared to even 5-year-old consoles. Whether Valve wants them to or not those are the main power/value alternatives people will compare it to.

I really want to see it but nothing about this thing's specs or design screams future proof in 2026. When this comes out and almost inevitably is running most games about as well as if slightly better than a PS5/XSX, who is gonna be rushing out to get one to replace their current box? I'm sure there are a handful of users who are fed up with Sony or Microsoft and want to make the leap, but nothing about the Steam Machine's specs imply it is going to give an experience beyond anything like even a PS5 Pro and that certainly isn't gonna entice someone to abandon their existing game library and upgrade. Especially since - I can't repeat this enough - the next-gen consoles are gonna be out and demolish this thing in just 1-2 years while likely costing just a tiny bit more.

As for convenience, it will still never be as convenient as a console by virtue of you still having to check compatibility to some degree, still having to fiddle with settings at least a bit (and even more in the coming years as the hardware ages). Sure, Steam OS is still a far more straightforward platform than Windows or whatever when it comes to going from powering the device on to playing games. Unreal Engine 5 is unfortunately still not going anywhere. If convenience really is a dealbreaker for someone, console still wins in key ways imo.
 
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