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Also hardware discussion. We apparently do not have one of these (Duplicate hunters, go wild). Let's all get together and collectively mourn the circumstances in which we all live in this year of our lord and savior, Steve, 2026.


To start out, I wanted to reply to this profile post by @DjQuick2008, but was hampered by a few forum limitations, so my response was abbreviated:

Let's fill that out:

"What does it cost?"​
£899.99 (Discounted from £949.99)​
Hardware alone, £845:​
I'll spitball some specs (with assumptions derived from the listing, based on UK PPP prices on May 10, 2026):​
CPURyzen 5 5600
~£120 ($160 USD)​
GPURTX 5060~£300
RAM16GB DDR4-3200~£130
MoboB550M~£80
Storage1TB SSD~£135
CaseMid Tower~£50
PSU600W~£35
So, for a prebuild, this is a very decent price -- discounted or not. Relative to you going out and purchasing those parts yourself, you're only saving on about £50-100 on labor and convenience -- or about $70-140 USD. That alone covers the cost of the operating system (Windows Tax, about £120 for Home). One could easily spend much, much more on parts. One could also just not spend money on Windows.​
Now, note: this is an entry level gaming PC. The Ryzen 5 5600 is a no-frills 4-year old mid-level CPU. It is fine for most gaming. An RTX 5060 is a current generation lowest level of gaming-appropriate GPUs. It is fine for most gaming. This will run Crysis, this will run Cyberpunk, Pragmata, and Crimson Desert -- but so would a Steamdeck (though, not as comfortably). You could go into lower-class GPUs (integrated, 50-series, previous generations) and maybe get away with it, but the price-performance curve starts to bend against you.​
If you're playing on a 1080p monitor and are able to live without Raytracing on everything, and are okay with some occasional hiccups, or slightly lower resolution textures, you should be happy. 4K HFR + Raytracing, however, will be a real challenge.​


Now, I neglected to mention that there's an additional cost to this build: I wouldn't have picked those parts.

Which is to say, on a price-to-price ratio, OcUK is offering those parts at a very decent price. But, those aren't the best parts at those prices. I'll offer some counterbuild options at a similar price point:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RvtBck (£927 [+£82] per PPP on May 10, 2026)

The main swaps are:
  • CPU: Go to an Zen 5 9600X. You bump up two generations (Zen3 to Zen5) and get another 30% or so of performance at roughly the same TDP class. This choice, however, forces you to get into the DDR5 price scramble and it's very difficultto find DIMMs at any appreciable size at any reasonable price, or at all. It also requires a CPU cooler -- the 5600 comes with an OEM cooler, the 9600X does not.
    • This mandates a 16GB DDR4 kit to 16GB DDR5 kit bump. In my barrel scraping, I had to pick a £180 single-channel 16GB kit, which is unideal. You're likely to face worst prices in reality. That alone was a +£40 bump.
  • SSD: The Teamgroup MP33 is a PCIe 3 drive. Expect <2000MBps Read/Write speeds. Fast, but could be faster. For cheaper, actually, you could get an Kingston NV3 at the same size and get an overall faster drive (6000/4000 MBps Read/Write).
  • Case: OcUK seems to have selected a triple-front fan 45cm-tall midtower case for an microATX motherboard. Like, it's pretty big for what it contains and most of the rear expansion slots won't be used. With these parts you don't really need that many fans, and you don't need all that case space. I picked a cheaper Aerocool case with similar aesthetics that is roughly 2/3 the size (24L vs. 35L).
  • GPU: A 5060 Ti can be gotten for around £300, so there's not really much of a reason to sit on a regular 5060 if you have the choice. Though, you probably won't notice much of a difference either way -- there's like a 5-10% performance bump, and you're still going to be stuck on an 8GB card (on 8 lanes). But, on a price-performance perspective, +£10 for +10% frames is not bad. There's unfortunately no real way to break out of an 8GB GPU without adding another £80-100, which will sort of break the bank and put us well over £1000. 16GB 9060XT's can still sit below £400 while 12GB 5070's start at £500. It's all kinda fucked.
    • There's a special mention here for Arc B580's. A 12GB card at £300 -- though, it is underpowered relative to a 5060.
 
Quite a while ago someone (I think it was Zega) suggested a PC hardware section for the forum. We approved it but it got stuck in limbo because Spike has been busy trying not to get ground into dust by life.

This will do fine as a substitute.
 
Quite a while ago someone (I think it was Zega) suggested a PC hardware section for the forum. We approved it but it got stuck in limbo because Spike has been busy trying not to get ground into dust by life.

This will do fine as a substitute.
We'll zag for a second, I guess. Given that this seems to be a rare enough discussion, a whole forum for PC hardware probably wouldn't do us very much. We're not LTT. I'm just surprised that I couldn't find omnibus PC-building thread. I mean, there are the options:

Besides, this is here because DJ's turned off any and all profile responses and DM's, and because I couldn't post more than 1000 characters in my own profile post. Needed a little bit more room to stretch, you know. It's a good price, with an asterisk. Load bearing asterisk.
 
If we are talking about older games, none of that Cyberpunk 2077 sillyness and you want to play some decent games, a good, fairly cheap build would be this:

Dell Optiplex 790 with the i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz - $50 USD
16 GB of DDR3 - Roughly $50 USD
GPU - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 4GB. Mind you, prices vary. Sometimes I have seen them for $25, and sometimes $40.
Netac 512GB SSD (the optiplex cant use m.2) about $65 USD

Now, you're not going to be trailblazing or doing 4K with this setup, but if you don't mind 1080p and some 720p gameplay, it's not a bad setup. Make sure you buy the full-size desktop, as you have to remove the HDD caddy to make the GPU fit. I know what it is capable of because I have one of these for gaming. Not my main gaming rig, mind you, but this setup is fairly capable even on Windows 10.
 
Dell Optiplex 790 with the i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz - $50 USD
16 GB of DDR3 - Roughly $50 USD
GPU - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 4GB. Mind you, prices vary. Sometimes I have seen them for $25, and sometimes $40.
Netac 512GB SSD (the optiplex cant use m.2) about $65 USD
Eh... i perfer this:
hp eletedesk 705 g4 with ryzen 5 pro 2400 ge
2x16 gb of ddr4
512-1024gb nvme ssd

You can pay 100 to 60 dollars if luckly... i use it all the time.
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If you are addressing me, then yes.
Well no... but thanks for the info im not buying shit on amazon since those mofo had the nerve to steal my money in my sleep.
 
Eh... i perfer this:
hp eletedesk 705 g4 with ryzen 5 pro 2400 ge
2x16 gb of ddr4
512-1024gb nvme ssd

You can pay 100 to 60 dollars if luckly... i use it all the time.
I have one of these myself, and yes, they are badass little mini systems no doubt about that. However, I suggested the Optiplex because you can use a full-sized GPU with it. Depending on what someone wants to do, the mini PC would be absolutely fine. But if you ever needed a larger GPU, say 8GB, with the Optiplex, you could at least swap out the PSU or GPU if needed, as that Optiplex doesn't use a proprietary PSU.
 
Second-generation Intel Core i3, i5, and i7 processors, but the i7-2600K variant is the best one you can use with it.
Is there any pc that is similar to Dell Optiplex 790 but only accept Amd chipsets?
 
AI Bros deserve a special place in Hell for their abominable life choices. RAM and HDD prices are through the roof, so being able maintain memory and storage on my fully operational battle station is an uphill struggle until manufacturers cease appeasing braindead CEOs and their Silicon Valley viziers. Low yield 1-4tb drives are always sold out and 8tb drives are nearly 300 dollars are more (having doubled in price over the past 2 years).

And SSDs?!? Fugget about it!
 
AI Bros deserve a special place in Hell for their abominable life choices. RAM and HDD prices are through the roof, so being able maintain memory and storage on my fully operational battle station is an uphill struggle until manufacturers cease appeasing braindead CEOs and their Silicon Valley viziers. Low yield 1-4tb drives are always sold out and 8tb drives are nearly 300 dollars are more (having doubled in price over the past 2 years).

And SSDs?!? Fugget about it!
Well you're right no one is no letting go of 34gb ram unless you pay 200$
 
Well, the 790's a 2011 miniATX desktop. It'll socket LGA1155, so Sandy and Ivy Bridge processors.

The 2600K is a 2010 part that rivals the performance of CPUs out to 2015. Though, the Ryzen 5 2400GE tops it, it is a 2018 chip.

If you want something specifically AMD, off-lease, and in an ATX form factor:
That's about $160 USD today. You'll still need to find yourself a GPU, and you'll want to swap in a larger SSD. Not really excited about that. It is socket-comparitble with your 2400GE, if you still have it, and you could migrate your storage and RAM over.

Though, it is Amazon. Almost all of these refurbished listings are affiliates, so I rank them on-par with ebay for on-delivery disappointment risks. At least you don't need to deal with bidding.


That said, if we're going to dip into ebay for possible bottom-dollar builds, consider these barebones workstations:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/298276862243 ($36 for 32GB RAM on a i7-9700. Real ugly tho. Has a Quadro 2000.)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/306910807298 ($30 for 32GB RAM on a i7-7700)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/306920068252 ($20 for 16GB RAM on a i7-6700. Small form factor tho.)

Assuming you actually win any of those, match with a GPU and storage of your choice and you've got it made.



............... Is there anything else besides those two?
AMD didn't have a lot of traction with OEMs, not until recently. They tended to be seen as "budget" offerings for laptops and desktops -- mainly laptops. They're out there, but they're kinda rare. Besides, AMD pre-2017 wasn't all that good. Intel only really dropped the ball with the 13th-14th generation, and mainly because they were rushing to compete with AMD on gaming.

AMD really made bank on being the everybody's console chipset supplier, and settled into a more niche space in the PC market. Ryzen made good inroads, but wasn't really able to dislodge Intel from OEM deals. The last couple years saw a bit of a thinning for Intel -- particularly in the system-integrator gaming market, but the consumer-facing OEM market is still vast-majority Intel.

Arrow Lake isn't a bad architecture, especially at its current price. It's just not an impressive architecture, not relative to the wild stuff that AMD is getting into these days. My other car is a 265K.
 
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Well, the 790's a 2011 miniATX desktop. It'll socket LGA1155, so Sandy and Ivy Bridge processors.

The 2600K is a 2010 part that rivals the performance of CPUs out to 2015. Though, the Ryzen 5 2400GE tops it, it is a 2018 chip.

If you want something specifically AMD, off-lease, and in an ATX form factor:
That's about $160 USD today. You'll still need to find yourself a GPU, and you'll want to swap in a larger SSD. Not really excited about that. It is socket-comparitble with your 2400GE, if you still have it, and you could migrate your storage and RAM over.

Though, it is Amazon. Almost all of these refurbished listings are affiliates, so I rank them on-par with ebay for on-delivery disappointment risks. At least you don't need to deal with bidding.


That said, if we're going to dip into ebay for possible bottom-dollar builds, consider these barebones workstations:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/298276862243 ($36 for 32GB RAM on a i7-9700. Real ugly tho. Has a Quadro 2000.)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/306910807298 ($30 for 32GB RAM on a i7-7700)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/306920068252 ($20 for 16GB RAM on a i7-6700. Small form factor tho.)

Assuming you actually win any of those, match with a GPU and storage of your choice and you've got it made.




AMD didn't have a lot of traction with OEMs, not until recently. They tended to be seen as "budget" offerings for laptops and desktops -- mainly laptops. They're out there, but they're kinda rare. Besides, AMD pre-2017 wasn't all that good. Intel only really dropped the ball with the 13th-14th generation, and mainly because they were rushing to compete with AMD on gaming.

AMD really made bank on being the everybody's console chipset supplier, and settled into a more niche space in the PC market. Ryzen made good inroads, but wasn't really able to dislodge Intel from OEM deals. The last couple years saw a bit of a thinning for Intel -- particularly in the system-integrator gaming market, but the consumer-facing OEM market is still vast-majority Intel.

Arrow Lake isn't a bad architecture, especially at its current price. It's just not an impressive architecture, not relative to the wild stuff that AMD is getting into these days. My other car is a 265K.
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Close enough but im not dealing with amazon anymore, i can always settle with "for parts or not working" on ebay with amd stuff:


I do want to try lenovo mini pcs where you can add a graphics card into it but they cost to much and i have to find the right ones for them like this:


but oh well maybe i could buy something from amazon if they sell their products on ebay...
 
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That's a hilarious but also very impressive mod. But, makes sense in totality -- the original M910x shipped with an RX460. All you'd need to upgrade from that is to find a low profile GPU that can run off of board power, and to be able to power the board with all that extra draw. I have a couple of M710q's -- same generation, but they don't have the PCIe slot or the removable PCIe bracket. Though, there's through pins in the motherboard -- if I had a PCIe slot, I could install one. Possible in theory.

Though, it's telling that a lot of this build hinges on 3D-printed custom components. Lenovo's version used a heatpipe to connect the GPU to the CPU's cooling stack, so they never really needed extra ventilation through the case.


The HP Elitedesk 405 G4, which you seem to be attached to, did come with an optional RX560 (a 4GB card) upgrade. I don't believe they used a standard PCIe interface, so you're probably not going to be able to find any card and plug it in (without soldering), but you could probably find something that was pulled from a refurb:

Certainly not on par with a 6500, but still a major step up from integrated:
 

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