The first LGBT+ video games characters

[χKai]

Ectoplasm swallower ??

Next I'll follower with a section of hollower
Insults to hurl without slurs to spit unfurlin this wave of rap rhymes through half time costin more than half a dollar fer
Anybody spittin their gibberish list'nin' gettin' into tangents with it and twistin' my words around their neck to hang 'em up with
I don't fuck with my words; I carefully lay them out like turds just naturally fallin' outta me, too much clout to be laughin' at, points comin' after that dark cloud of evil intent that you guys probably doubted it

 

[99nereids]

wondering if anyone knows of any early games covering queer themes made by queer people? I know of a couple off the top of my head

Caper In The Castro (1989) - believed to be the first game about and by gay people. Released as charityware to raise funds during the AIDS pandemic, the game sees you as world famous lesbian private detective Tracker McDyke as she searches for one missing Tessy LaFemme, local drag queen. This eventually unfolds into a deeper mystery ("Who is Dullagan Straightman?") as you navigate this intriguing point-and-click adventure game.
Play Caper in the Castro @ the internet archive
"I wrote this game as a labor of my love for the gay and lesbian community." - C.M. Ralph, creator

GayBlade (1992) - A party-based action RPG for DOS where players assemble a party of four, rolling their stats to choose from a variety of classes from Queer, Lesbian and Drag Queen to Mage and Master (i think in like, a bdsm sense lol). Once you have your party you must enter the dungeon and battle the hordes of homophobes (rednecks, cops and skinheads ammong others) to save the princess Nelda whose being held captive by the dungon's evil lord, real life anti-gay conservative commentator Pat Buchanan.
Play GayBlade @ the internet archive (works best if you download and play thru dosbox!)
"This game gives lesbians and gays -- and straight people -- a chance to strike back at homophobia from behind our computer screen" - Ryan Best, creator

 

[NobodyHere]

Bro who let you FOCKEN COOK LIKE THIS ! thats what i been saying to my buds for ages , just make the gay characters acuel people rather then average Steve that likes d , cmon now they be making character either godlike beings or "never can do wrong" type stuff which is so weird saying or thinking there is no evil gay people or bad ones , give us gay villains with good Backstory,i don't want the villain to mention he is gay every 5 mins into the game

Good example
Chris red Field from resident evil , there are many scenes where he is implied to be homosexual or at least not interested in woman in the games , especially look at resident evil revelations where Chris is CLOSE with that one specific soldier guy in game,

Summary wanna make good representing and good LGBT characters? Make them like acuel people, normal people don't yell out what they like nor they need to prove themselves 24/7 to everyone around them

My good friend who is gay i didn't even knew bro was gay ?? he told me after i asked him whats his type was lol

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Duh ? eating all that ghost ahh and shi bro is freaky like that ,but he bi i think homie goes after the pink one as well

Agreed, but there’s also the opposite side of things where lgbtq people are displaying as villains because their lgbtq or the fact they are is used to hammer in how evil they are. Especially with trans characters, I watched ‘Ace Ventura: Pet Detective’ with my family it was so uncomfortable, when they got to the big reveal where it was the main character outing a trans woman in front of their peers.

It’s amazing though when lgbtq villains are written with dignity and not as creeps or predators because of their queerness.

 

[thanonyx thanonyx]

It’s amazing though when lgbtq villains are written with dignity and not as creeps or predators because of their queerness.

Poison Ivy and The Riddler come to mind

 

[ciro64 ciro64]

 

[thanonyx thanonyx]

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[ciro64 ciro64]

Who is that?

A minor character in Banjo Tooie who is a bartender with very stereotypical gay mannerisms. Honestly I think it's a good example of diversity, considering it's a goofy platformer full of exaggerated characters. I'd 1000% have a character like this over something like Tawna from It's About Time.

 

[NobodyHere]

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I think it’s impressive that you can have your sims be in a samesex relationship in each sims instalment

 

[thanonyx thanonyx]

A minor character in Banjo Tooie who is a bartender with very stereotypical gay mannerisms. Honestly I think it's a good example of diversity, considering it's a goofy platformer full of exaggerated characters. I'd 1000% have a character like this over something like Tawna from It's About Time.

I haven't played CB4 yet, what's wrong with Tawna?

 

[ciro64 ciro64]

I haven't played CB4 yet, what's wrong with Tawna?

• For what was meant to be an alternate universe character, nothing in CB4 Tawna's design resemble the original one in any way
• Her design do look stereotypical, but not in a goofy cartoonish way like all the other Crash characters are. It's just blatant feminism pandering.
• Her proportions doesn't mesh well: she looks like a human sized furry character, while she's in a mascot platformer game.

I'm all in for diversity, if you go to the visual novel recommendation thread you'll see some of the games I posted are completely unapologetically about it. But it needs to come from a place of passion, not from corporate obligation.

 

[miguk miguk]

Edgar and Master Roshi were always offputting to me. Not because of the cassanova thing, but the subtle pedophilia. Something that we shouldn't be normalizing as a culture. So don't assume that everyone loves those types of characters.

The sad thing is, there are a lot of manga/anime/gaming fans who insist this is normal in Japan/Asia just because it's in Japanese media. What they don't get (which those of us who lived in Asia do) is that the pedo thing actually isn't considered normal, and is just a result of lobbying by Japanese media companies. In literally every other facet of Japanese life, they've pushed the pedos out of normal society even more than in the West. That's essentially because they've acknowledge that they have/had a problem with it, and have made an effort to make laws to get rid of the problem.

By comparison, the US hasn't done much. We still have legal marriage to minors in multiple states. We still have child beauty pageants (and teen idols weren't that long ago). We still have multiple state age of consent laws below 18. And of course, we have predators who don't go to jail despite being already publicly known for what they did. (And all of this is backed by some of the same people Red Scaring gay people.) Japan has made an effort to do away with a lot of that (maybe not the teen idols).

Unfortunately, Japanese media companies actually want to be able to continue making media for pedo trash. There's an exception in Japanese CSAM law that allows for it to be done with fictional (drawn) characters in order to protect the manga/anime industry. The industry, in turn, insists that it's normal in Japan and that foreigners who complain are ignoring cultural differences. Foreign fans, mostly unfamiliar with the culture, just nod their heads along and assume the guys who only care about making more money — not cultural exchange — are telling the truth.

And the weird thing about it is, so few of these writers are willing to portray LGBT people in just as equal a way as they portray pedos. You'll see characters nod their heads along to a loli-con like they said nothing weird while acting completely shocked the moment a character comes out as gay. It's not so much that these writers are trying to be inclusive as it is they are being lazy and feeding the lowest common denominator while avoiding anything that will make the easiest audience to bait less likely to buy their merch in droves.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

The sad thing is, there are a lot of manga/anime/gaming fans who insist this is normal in Japan/Asia just because it's in Japanese media. What they don't get (which those of us who lived in Asia do) is that the pedo thing actually isn't considered normal, and is just a result of lobbying by Japanese media companies. In literally every other facet of Japanese life, they've pushed the pedos out of normal society even more than in the West. That's essentially because they've acknowledge that they have/had a problem with it, and have made an effort to make laws to get rid of the problem.

By comparison, the US hasn't done much. We still have legal marriage to minors in multiple states. We still have child beauty pageants (and teen idols weren't that long ago). We still have multiple state age of consent laws below 18. And of course, we have predators who don't go to jail despite being already publicly known for what they did. (And all of this is backed by some of the same people Red Scaring gay people.) Japan has made an effort to do away with a lot of that (maybe not the teen idols).

Unfortunately, Japanese media companies actually want to be able to continue making media for pedo trash. There's an exception in JP CSAM law that allows for it to be done with fictional (drawn) characters in order to protect the manga/anime industry. The industry, in turn, insists that its normal in Japan and that foreigners who complain are ignoring cultural differences. Foreign fans, mostly unfamiliar with the culture, just nod their heads along and assume the guys who only care about making more money — not cultural exchange — are telling the truth.

And the weird thing about it is, so few of these writers are willing to portray LGBT people in just as equal a way as they portray pedos. You'll see characters nod their heads along to a loli-con like they said nothing weird while acting completely shocked the moment a character comes out as gay. It's not so much that these writers are trying to be inclusive as it is they are being lazy and feeding the lowest common denominator while avoiding anything that will make the easiest audience to bait less likely to buy their merch in droves.

I don't mean to imply it isn't a problem in the west. It exists all around the world. But for some reason there's a subgenre of Otaku culture that panders to that crowd and it is disturbing. I also understand that at this point that subculture has been ostracized from the mainstream manga/anime crowd. Which is great. I was commenting on how it existed back in the day.

 

[Gorse]

The industry, in turn, insists that its normal in Japan and that foreigners who complain are ignoring cultural differences.

Imagine that!

 

[miguk miguk]

I don't mean to imply it isn't a problem in the west. It exists all around the world. But for some reason there's a subgenre of Okatu culture that panders to that crowd and it is disturbing. I also understand that at this point that subculture has been ostracized from the mainstream manga/anime crowd. Which is great. I was commenting on how it existed back in the day.

Yep, they are still around online, and I was referring to them. They are mostly ostracized on western websites that aren't built for the lowest of filth. They still continue to thrive on Japanese ones, especially Pixiv (which is impossible to use without running into them).

And yes, the cultural climate was worse back in the day. The laws were much looser back when FFVI and Dragonball were made. They existed in a time when CSAM was legal and prostitution laws were even looser than they are now. (Luckily the law is only loose for legal adults now.) Both still get a pass now because they still fit under current Japanese law. But the media creators still act like society hasn't changed as a result of legal changes, when in fact they're just getting their info from an echo chamber of other like-minded media creators.

Imagine that!

I've lived in Asia and have known plenty of people from Japan and neighboring countries. They look down on this stuff as much as we do. If there was any cultural difference, it died decades ago. I've made an attempt to understand the situation rather than just judge without doing so, so I don't get what you are getting at.

 

[newageretrohippie]

Ayla makes some bisexual comments in Chrono Trigger (censored from the SNES version but restored in the DS version)

 

[IyoTheHelpfulWolf]

What do you mean by 'not good representation'? Yes, they happen to be bad people but it's not because they're gay. This sort of thing is why I hate the modern trend of making characters gay and shoving it down our throats. YOU CAN HAVE GAY CHARACTERS WITHOUT MAKING THEIR GAYNESS THE ONLY NOTABLE THING ABOUT THEM. The few gay people I know are more than just their sexual preferences and gaming (or other media) plots could stand to take that into account and write deep and complex characters who aren't defined by not being straight.

This is why I like how they handled this in Cyberpunk 2077 and Baulder's Gate 3. They have LGBT+ characters and some of said characters aren't shy about it, but they aren't JUST gay. They're people with goals, interests, and flaws that happen to be gay. Another game I like with prominent gay characters is Sword of the Necromancer. I haven't finished it yet, but so far the backstory of the protag and her lover that she's trying to resurrect is so CUTE!

Also, I'm still salty that Nintendo censored the gay options in Fire Emblem Fates. Not only is that just a dick move, it also removed the associated slice of life stories and strategic options in battle.

 

[hazys]

Vivian being trans in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door was very surprising to me. That's a high-profile Nintendo release from the early 2000s. Of course I know Japan sees the subject differently.

 

[χKai]

I'm trying to mod a version of Persona 3 Portable so that it includes romance options for Yukari and Mitsuru for the female main character.

I also kind of want to make an alternate version that also has Marie as the main character option for either gender you pick, which I think is just fuckin' awesome. ?

 

[Yousef Yousef]

Vivian being trans in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door was very surprising to me. That's a high-profile Nintendo release from the early 2000s. Of course I know Japan sees the subject differently.

It’s quite cool.

 

[hazys]

Yeah, what wasn't cool was the censorship in the West. At least it was restored in the remake.

 

[χKai]

>_>;

 

[Deebo]

This guy appears to have *made an account* to say this. Reported for terrorism.

 

[NoctemDead]

Fallout 2 is the oldest game I've actually played myself that I can remember having any LGBT+ content. It's not much but it's there, at least as far as a shotgun wedding is concerned and maybe some of the "adult film" work you can take on in New Reno. I don't remember how many of the intimate encounters in the game allowed for non-hetero interactions.

 

[Deebo]

The cat from Crush Roller for Neo Geo Pocket Color is a lesbian So is the cat from Puzzle Ou Poko

 

[DrunkOcelot]

This guy appears to have *made an account* to say this. Reported for terrorism.

The fuck is going on here? Lol