Terrible roommates or neighbors

[Derealized]

Video games are one of my few escapes, and even still, I'm about ready to go off living in an RV or even a van because, I've just been through enough already. Rent is expensive now, and it keeps going up! So then there's roommates, or neighbors, which, I could be here all day telling horror stories about this. It gets pretty bad. I think though, that I'd rather hear from other people, what are your experiences? I know I'm not the only one who ends up with the worst of them.

Right now, I'm trying to resist going off on someone. For a list of reasons, but currently, because he keeps going into the bathroom and blowing his nose in the sink. It was bad enough when he had a cold which I'm not trying to catch myself. It's disgusting, and extremely inconsiderate. I hear water running from the sink, nose blowing, water stops and he comes out. Even though there's toilet paper in there, you hear no toilet flushing, so there's no mistaking what I'm hearing. Should i say something? I have a hard time being... 'polite' about this sort of thing. But i can't stand it. nasty s***...

 

[Deleted member 99901]

I feel your pain. I shared a shotgun apartment with three others in New Orleans back in the day. It was a living nightmare involving one crazy alcoholic, a religious nutter and a drug addict. I avoided "going home" all the time to avoid that mess, then bailed and moved far away from THAT.

And just 7 years ago I was still living in an apartment. It was nice, balcony and everything. Problem was the stupid revolving door of young college students I had as neighbors who wanted to party so hard the walls would shake. Good riddance. I live on a plot of old farmland now, but often dream of this place being enclosed by the 20' tall brick wall. ?

 

[Nidoking's icon Nidoking Nidoking]

We had a roommate who ended up stealing multiple games from us because he was 'borrowing' them and didn't return them before moving out. He also moved out VERY unexpectedly, without paying three months of rent he owed.

Oh, and he regularly 'subtly' demeaned @King Koopa in very sexist ways, like he just didn't take women seriously and thought any criticisms or grievances she had were just "a woman nagging." He never said as much, but you could tell he felt it.

 

[Waffles's iconWaffles]

My next-door neighbor has repeatedly (and unapologetically) sent death threats to the entire neighborhood, and my children are terrified of him. He's a coward, too, because he runs inside as soon as someone confronts him about that shit.

He's like 60 but acts (and dresses) like he is 20. It's pathetic.

 

[Antilocal123]

Oh thank the Lord I can vent.

We’ve had this neighbour for about a few years who must be a politician because he does Jack shit all day and blasts heavy bass-boosted music throughout the afternoon and sometimes the night.

He’ll just be out drinking with trap music playing and I can't help but think “You know everyone here fucking hates you right?” each time it happens.

Luckily, it’s somewhat muffled but you can still hear it, and I just strive to have that lack of self-awareness.

 

[Adrastia]

Right now, I'm trying to resist going off on someone. For a list of reasons, but currently, because he keeps going into the bathroom and blowing his nose in the sink. It was bad enough when he had a cold which I'm not trying to catch myself. It's disgusting, and extremely inconsiderate. I hear water running from the sink, nose blowing, water stops and he comes out. Even though there's toilet paper in there, you hear no toilet flushing, so there's no mistaking what I'm hearing. Should i say something? I have a hard time being... 'polite' about this sort of thing. But i can't stand it. nasty s***...

I'm wondering if this is a habit from childhood. You should tell him that unless you clean the sink with disinfectant after every use then it's full of bacteria from washing icky hands. So he could be splashing bacteria up into his nose. No wonder he's always blowing it.

I've moved so many times. I'm tired of it. I lived on this block back in the 90s. And somehow I'm here again. Back then we had a police mobile unit parked out front all summer because of street violence.

A few days ago an older woman who was very clearly floating on the moon comes out of the apartment next door and asks if I have a cigarette. I tell her I don't smoke. And she says I should because smoking is good for you.

On the other side the neighbors have all these little dogs that bark all the time. You can't even go out back because the dogs won't stop barking at you.

 

[medisinn]

Oh thank the Lord I can vent.

We’ve had this neighbour for about a few years who must be a politician because he does Jack shit all day and blasts heavy bass-boosted music throughout the afternoon and sometimes the night.

He’ll just be out drinking with trap music playing and I can't help but think “You know everyone here fucking hates you right?” each time it happens.

Luckily, it’s somewhat muffled but you can still hear it, and I just strive to have that lack of self-awareness.

I hate people like this, one of my co-workers that I work with directly is this sort of person. Someone who takes pride in being difficult and doing whatever they want without consideration for others. People like this are fragile, and can't handle criticism without becoming defensive and deflecting, or hostile. Despite their lack of social grace, they don't have awareness that the social grace of others is the only thing that keeps them from getting cussed out or beaten up.

15ish years ago a friend and I had a first-floor apartment with a lady upstairs that would stomp furiously if we were making too much noise. She never knocked or left a note or had a conversation with us in any way, she was just a passive aggressive jerk. I'm sure we could have toned it down, but when someone acts like that you lose any sympathy for them.

8ish years ago my longtime roommate moved back to Southern Oregon and I had to resort to finding roommates off of Craigslist. Needless to say, it did not go well. The boyfriend was lazy and always had an excuse for not going to work, plus he lied about looking for work and not talking to other women. The girlfriend, whose dad owned the duplex, knew it was shitty, but put up with it, and then he got her pregnant so she was trapped. Anyway, I tried to be nice to the kid, and let him play my raspberry pi and look at my Magic cards. I only realized later that that little motherfucker went through my collection and stole all the rares and mythics. I could tell he was a fake fan and didn't know shit about Magic beyond "rares are worth money" because he left uncommons and commons that were worth several dollars each. Over time the cards he stole went up in value and probably ended up being at least a thousand bucks, stuff I happened to get from trades or friends that I would never buy now. What I did realize at the time was that he went into my room, stole a check out of my checkbook and forged a check for 600 bucks. I found out when I was getting sushi with that old roommate that was in town visiting, and when I went to pay my account was negative and the payment declined. I talked to my bank, who had a scanned copy of the check, and this dipshit's name was on it. What I should have done was press charges. Being younger and more naive, and also wanting to keep the peace because I didn't have anywhere else to go, I let it slide since I was able to get the money back thankfully. I put the fear of God in that kid and he wouldn't even look me in the eyes. I'm by no means tough or intimidating, but I was filled with righteous fury and betrayal, and he was a coward. I bought a keylock to put on my bedroom door, and there was an awkward existence for a couple months until they went on vacation to California and just decided not to come back, so I had to leave too. Thankfully some friends let me stay with them temporarily while I saved up for a place, and since then I've only roomed with friends. No more randos. The girlfriend messaged me a few months after that on Facebook, but I did not answer. Maybe immature, but for all I knew she was going to try to charge me for stuff even though I never signed a lease. Perhaps she was going to apologize or something, but it's not her fault she did that, although she enabled it by doing nothing to punish him when the theft was revealed.

Uh, damn, sorry for the rant. That dredged up some long-dormant memories.

 

[Derealized]

I hate people like this, one of my co-workers that I work with directly is this sort of person. Someone who takes pride in being difficult and doing whatever they want without consideration for others. People like this are fragile, and can't handle criticism without becoming defensive and deflecting, or hostile. Despite their lack of social grace, they don't have awareness that the social grace of others is the only thing that keeps them from getting cussed out or beaten up.

15ish years ago a friend and I had a first-floor apartment with a lady upstairs that would stomp furiously if we were making too much noise. She never knocked or left a note or had a conversation with us in any way, she was just a passive aggressive jerk. I'm sure we could have toned it down, but when someone acts like that you lose any sympathy for them.

8ish years ago my longtime roommate moved back to Southern Oregon and I had to resort to finding roommates off of Craigslist. Needless to say, it did not go well. The boyfriend was lazy and always had an excuse for not going to work, plus he lied about looking for work and not talking to other women. The girlfriend, whose dad owned the duplex, knew it was shitty, but put up with it, and then he got her pregnant so she was trapped. Anyway, I tried to be nice to the kid, and let him play my raspberry pi and look at my Magic cards. I only realized later that that little motherfucker went through my collection and stole all the rares and mythics. I could tell he was a fake fan and didn't know shit about Magic beyond "rares are worth money" because he left uncommons and commons that were worth several dollars each. Over time the cards he stole went up in value and probably ended up being at least a thousand bucks, stuff I happened to get from trades or friends that I would never buy now. What I did realize at the time was that he went into my room, stole a check out of my checkbook and forged a check for 600 bucks. I found out when I was getting sushi with that old roommate that was in town visiting, and when I went to pay my account was negative and the payment declined. I talked to my bank, who had a scanned copy of the check, and this dipshit's name was on it. What I should have done was press charges. Being younger and more naive, and also wanting to keep the peace because I didn't have anywhere else to go, I let it slide since I was able to get the money back thankfully. I put the fear of God in that kid and he wouldn't even look me in the eyes. I'm by no means tough or intimidating, but I was filled with righteous fury and betrayal, and he was a coward. I bought a keylock to put on my bedroom door, and there was an awkward existence for a couple months until they went on vacation to California and just decided not to come back, so I had to leave too. Thankfully some friends let me stay with them temporarily while I saved up for a place, and since then I've only roomed with friends. No more randos. The girlfriend messaged me a few months after that on Facebook, but I did not answer. Maybe immature, but for all I knew she was going to try to charge me for stuff even though I never signed a lease. Perhaps she was going to apologize or something, but it's not her fault she did that, although she enabled it by doing nothing to punish him when the theft was revealed.

Uh, damn, sorry for the rant. That dredged up some long-dormant memories.

Short on time for a response right now. But speaking of magic cards. My older brother was really into it for a long time, starting back in the 90s, and he was serious about collecting good cards. He died though, about 5 years ago now. I hung onto some of the more 'sentimental' belongings of his, and this crate, huge pile of boxes full of magic cards.
I personally don't know much (anything) about it, so i don't know what to even do with them. There's still unopened packs from the 90s, who knows what else. I know it has value too. But if it goes to anyone, i want it to be the right person or people.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

I didn't have the pleasure to rent a room or a house with partners and randoms maybe it will happen this year if things go that way.

Let me tell you this , if I could own a gun in jordan I would have shot the entire building I live in , some unfunny little brat decided its funny to ring the bell and run not to his knowledge this piece of crap structure is dogshit the button got stuck and the bell burned.....the piece of filth living in front of me would keep garbage outside our house I don't even tell him hi when I see him.

Just this , rural people are unfit for living in apartments cuz they are the epitome of noise making , blasts music at 2 AM and breeds like rabbits you can say I developed a hatred for rural people after this

 

[PrismRed]

Got a cool story, this happened around 5 years ago, right before Covid.

I live in a quiet neighborhood but it just so happened my house is at the corner of the area, behind my house is a rural place separated by 20 feet tall brick wall. Exactly right behind my house, I dunno who live there, start blasting music (crappy ass music too, on a crappy ass speaker) all day long every Friday to Saturday from morning till night, everyone here hates it. Some of the elders even went there to complain, but they don't stop.

One day my neighbor decided to put a stop to this, he visited my house asking to borrow my backyard as a battleground since the source of the annoying music is right behind my house, coincidentally he has a huge home studio, he brought out these giant 7.1 setup and several stage speakers, his plan? To fight their crappy ass music with our own music. Since it's my backyard, he let me pick the tune.

I have Nier Gestalt OST CD, guess if we wanna do this, at least I can put up something that most people can enjoy.

Then it began, we blasted Nier OST for 3 hours non-stop full force, it was so powerful that my house windows are vibrating. Fortunately they got the message and they stopped since then. The neighbors thanked us, some gave us snacks and candies even.

 

[medisinn]

Short on time for a response right now. But speaking of magic cards. My older brother was really into it for a long time, starting back in the 90s, and he was serious about collecting good cards. He died though, about 5 years ago now. I hung onto some of the more 'sentimental' belongings of his, and this crate, huge pile of boxes full of magic cards.
I personally don't know much (anything) about it, so i don't know what to even do with them. There's still unopened packs from the 90s, who knows what else. I know it has value too. But if it goes to anyone, i want it to be the right person or people.

Sorry for your loss. Um, the unopened stuff might be worth hanging onto, depending on what it is it will probably only continue to go up in value. Setting aside anything you might want to keep, if you wanted to make money there are apps like TCGplayer where you can go through the box of loose cards and scan them to see what's worth money and what isn't. Then you could set aside the money cards to sell, and give the bulk to like an after school or community program or something.

 

[Antilocal123]

I hate people like this, one of my co-workers that I work with directly is this sort of person. Someone who takes pride in being difficult and doing whatever they want without consideration for others. People like this are fragile, and can't handle criticism without becoming defensive and deflecting, or hostile. Despite their lack of social grace, they don't have awareness that the social grace of others is the only thing that keeps them from getting cussed out or beaten up.

15ish years ago a friend and I had a first-floor apartment with a lady upstairs that would stomp furiously if we were making too much noise. She never knocked or left a note or had a conversation with us in any way, she was just a passive aggressive jerk. I'm sure we could have toned it down, but when someone acts like that you lose any sympathy for them.

8ish years ago my longtime roommate moved back to Southern Oregon and I had to resort to finding roommates off of Craigslist. Needless to say, it did not go well. The boyfriend was lazy and always had an excuse for not going to work, plus he lied about looking for work and not talking to other women. The girlfriend, whose dad owned the duplex, knew it was shitty, but put up with it, and then he got her pregnant so she was trapped. Anyway, I tried to be nice to the kid, and let him play my raspberry pi and look at my Magic cards. I only realized later that that little motherfucker went through my collection and stole all the rares and mythics. I could tell he was a fake fan and didn't know shit about Magic beyond "rares are worth money" because he left uncommons and commons that were worth several dollars each. Over time the cards he stole went up in value and probably ended up being at least a thousand bucks, stuff I happened to get from trades or friends that I would never buy now. What I did realize at the time was that he went into my room, stole a check out of my checkbook and forged a check for 600 bucks. I found out when I was getting sushi with that old roommate that was in town visiting, and when I went to pay my account was negative and the payment declined. I talked to my bank, who had a scanned copy of the check, and this dipshit's name was on it. What I should have done was press charges. Being younger and more naive, and also wanting to keep the peace because I didn't have anywhere else to go, I let it slide since I was able to get the money back thankfully. I put the fear of God in that kid and he wouldn't even look me in the eyes. I'm by no means tough or intimidating, but I was filled with righteous fury and betrayal, and he was a coward. I bought a keylock to put on my bedroom door, and there was an awkward existence for a couple months until they went on vacation to California and just decided not to come back, so I had to leave too. Thankfully some friends let me stay with them temporarily while I saved up for a place, and since then I've only roomed with friends. No more randos. The girlfriend messaged me a few months after that on Facebook, but I did not answer. Maybe immature, but for all I knew she was going to try to charge me for stuff even though I never signed a lease. Perhaps she was going to apologize or something, but it's not her fault she did that, although she enabled it by doing nothing to punish him when the theft was revealed.

Uh, damn, sorry for the rant. That dredged up some long-dormant memories.

You’re a better man than me, I’d punt that child like an abusive father coming home from work in the 40’s.

 

[Gorse]

In the last apartment I had, my upstairs neighbours were dropping stuff onto my balcony CONSTANTLY. They had both young kids and old people living with them, and I could expect filthy toys, discarded food wrappers and bottles, pillows from deck furniture, and wretched pieces of clothing (my personal favourite being a pair of stained pantyhose that looked like it had come off a corpse) right outside my window anytime the weather was nice. Of course, the building staff did nothing when I reported it, despite the fact that I was paying some of the highest rent in the country.

I'm never renting a place with a balcony again, unless I'm on the very top floor. They're way more trouble than they're worth, and I don't really like the thought of being outside in dense city smoke during the summer heat, anyways.

Just this , rural people are unfit for living in apartments cuz they are the epitome of noise making , blasts music at 2 AM

Exactly right behind my house, I dunno who live there, start blasting music (crappy ass music too, on a crappy ass speaker) all day long every Friday to Saturday from morning till night, everyone here hates it.

blasts heavy bass-boosted music throughout the afternoon and sometimes the night.

Why is this such a constant with horrible neighbours!? Why is it always the worst music ever conceived that they're obsessed with playing out loud!? Whoever created the trap genre must have formulaically devised it to be a social weapon for people in shared living spaces.

 

[Antilocal123]

In the last apartment I had, my upstairs neighbours were dropping stuff onto my balcony CONSTANTLY. They had both young kids and old people living with them, and I could expect filthy toys, discarded food wrappers and bottles, pillows from deck furniture, and wretched pieces of clothing (my personal favourite being a pair of stained pantyhose that looked like it had come off a corpse) right outside my window anytime the weather was nice. Of course, the building staff did nothing when I reported it, despite the fact that I was paying some of the highest rent in the country.

I'm never renting a place with a balcony again, unless I'm on the very top floor. They're way more trouble than they're worth, and I don't really like the thought of being outside in dense city smoke during the summer heat, anyways.




Why is this such a constant with horrible neighbours!? Why is it always the worst music ever conceived that they're obsessed with playing out loud!? Whoever created the trap genre must have formulaically devised it to be a social weapon for people in shared living spaces.

Trap really isn't that bad lmao, scenecore exists—but yeah idk why people feel the need to blast music of any kind so high.

 

[J.F.C]

Jesus christ all of these stories about noisy neighbors blasting the worst songs made on Earth hit me way too close to home. I live in a quiet place now thank god but back when i still lived in Brazil this sort of thing was constant. I don't get what the fuck is wrong with the heads of the people who do this sort of thing.

 

[Antilocal123]

Jesus christ all of these stories about noisy neighbors blasting the worst songs made on Earth hit me way too close to home. I live in a quiet place now thank god but back when i still lived in Brazil this sort of thing was constant. I don't get what the fuck is wrong with the heads of the people who do this sort of thing.

They just don't give a shit or have a lack of social cues, I used to blast rock music walking around in the mall as a pre-teen and never really cared for other people’s cares until I had it happened to me and I realized I was being a prick.

 

[Derealized]

They just don't give a shit or have a lack of social cues, I used to blast rock music walking around in the mall as a pre-teen and never really cared for other people’s cares until I had it happened to me and I realized I was being a prick.

Right now i have a ridiculous man child trying to make me feel like the bad guy for calling out his poor lazy behavior, as he sweeps the bathroom, trying to brag... Even though I've voluntarily cleaned the entire bathroom floor to ceiling many times. At least, from what I've read so far it is not just me that deals with it. I want to go off and make them look like complete fools but... Then I'll really never get any peace. I really seriously do want to get an RV. Live wherever i want, if i don't like the neighbors, i leave.

 

[Antilocal123]

Right now i have a ridiculous man child trying to make me feel like the bad guy for calling out his poor lazy behavior, as he sweeps the bathroom, trying to brag... Even though I've voluntarily cleaned the entire bathroom floor to ceiling many times. At least, from what I've read so far it is not just me that deals with it. I want to go off and make them look like complete fools but... Then I'll really never get any peace. I really seriously do want to get an RV. Live wherever i want, if i don't like the neighbors, i leave.

Hope you get that sorted out! RV’s are cool but a trailer is also viable if you want a peaceful location since it’s usually people who want peace and quiet. ( in my experience at the least )

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

In the last apartment I had, my upstairs neighbours were dropping stuff onto my balcony CONSTANTLY. They had both young kids and old people living with them, and I could expect filthy toys, discarded food wrappers and bottles, pillows from deck furniture, and wretched pieces of clothing (my personal favourite being a pair of stained pantyhose that looked like it had come off a corpse) right outside my window anytime the weather was nice. Of course, the building staff did nothing when I reported it, despite the fact that I was paying some of the highest rent in the country.

I'm never renting a place with a balcony again, unless I'm on the very top floor. They're way more trouble than they're worth, and I don't really like the thought of being outside in dense city smoke during the summer heat, anyways.




Why is this such a constant with horrible neighbours!? Why is it always the worst music ever conceived that they're obsessed with playing out loud!? Whoever created the trap genre must have formulaically devised it to be a social weapon for people in shared living spaces.

If you thought trap or whatever was bad wait to hear modern Egyptian music , called carnival music or festival whatever the English noun for it , its the most cheap , filthy lyrics piece of garbage I ever heard it doesn't stop there they choose the most obnoxious and shitty songs from other genres or countries too..

I got used to it at this point but going postal was a consideration before

And I don't understand the logic of these rurals breeds 8 kids and throws them on the street to be raised by the street culture then wonders why his son is such a scumbag...

Dude I was back from class the other day somebody I never seen in my life asked me to buy him juice like I don't even know you??? I looked at him weird and walked off what the heck are these neighbours? Asking for lighters cigars ???? I don't even smoke like....

 

[Antilocal123]

If you thought trap or whatever was bad wait to hear modern Egyptian music , called carnival music or festival whatever the English noun for it , its the most cheap , filthy lyrics piece of garbage I ever heard it doesn't stop there they choose the most obnoxious and shitty songs from other genres or countries too..

I got used to it at this point but going postal was a consideration before

And I don't understand the logic of these rurals breeds 8 kids and throws them on the street to be raised by the street culture then wonders why his son is such a scumbag...

Dude I was back from class the other day somebody I never seen in my life asked me to buy him juice like I don't even know you??? I looked at him weird and walked off what the heck are these neighbours? Asking for lighters cigars ???? I don't even smoke like....

YOOO I GETCHU!

In highschool we had people who lived in places like fucking ARKANSAS and acted gang, it’s so stupid because you know damn well the closest thing they’ve done is take a dab once.

YOU’RE A CITY BOY!

Especially the lighter stuff, buy it yourself lmao—why do I have to buy a fucking Marlboro Ice for you?!

They also sometimes ask to let you share and that shit’s stupid, let me smoke in peace oml.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

YOOO I GETCHU!

In highschool we had people who lived in places like fucking ARKANSAS and acted gang, it’s so stupid because you know damn well the closest thing they’ve done is take a dab once.

YOU’RE A CITY BOY!

Especially the lighter stuff, buy it yourself lmao—why do I have to buy a fucking Marlboro Ice for you?!

They also sometimes ask to let you share and that shit’s stupid, let me smoke in peace oml.

*gangsters thinking they are cool for shooting each other cuz he wore red and you wear blue*

Someone should tell them "get off the street you look stupid"

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

Yeah but Gang Culture runs so deep that you can’t really step in and stop it, hence why places like O-Block in Chicago kinda function without police intervention.

It’s on the fault of law enforcement sometimes aswell, recently they stepped in because one of their men died but shouldn’t have they done that already?

Granted, maybe it’s too risky, gang culture won’t die until everyone dies.

It costs people lives for absolute stupidity not even a cause worth dying for man...

 

[TheWanderer]

I'm having the Huawei phone alarm flashbacks with this one. I had a roommate that NEVER wakes up to his alarm ,it wakes me up to wake him up ,I had a ton of other weird roommates but tbh they made my college years fun ngl

 

[Evaccaneer Doom]

Video games are one of my few escapes, and even still, I'm about ready to go off living in an RV or even a van because, I've just been through enough already. Rent is expensive now, and it keeps going up! So then there's roommates, or neighbors, which, I could be here all day telling horror stories about this. It gets pretty bad. I think though, that I'd rather hear from other people, what are your experiences? I know I'm not the only one who ends up with the worst of them.

Right now, I'm trying to resist going off on someone. For a list of reasons, but currently, because he keeps going into the bathroom and blowing his nose in the sink. It was bad enough when he had a cold which I'm not trying to catch myself. It's disgusting, and extremely inconsiderate. I hear water running from the sink, nose blowing, water stops and he comes out. Even though there's toilet paper in there, you hear no toilet flushing, so there's no mistaking what I'm hearing. Should i say something? I have a hard time being... 'polite' about this sort of thing. But i can't stand it. nasty s***...

That's awful and I 100% feel your pain, my roommates can be absolute slobs. Admittedly, I'm not much better since my desk is incredibly messy as I tend to forget where stuff is placed unless it's in front of me, but they're on another level. One of them must've drank hella alcohol and ate hella pizza cause when I left for the holiday break, I noticed a bunch of pizza boxes and bottles in the corner. When we (mom and I) came back, we noticed a smell and it came from the boxes and bottles. Further more, they also kept fruits in a bowl by the window that hadn't moved an inch since we all moved in. I never paid notice because I thought they were those fake fruit meant for decoration. Unsurprisingly, they were rotten, and no one knew/cared. We were incredibly lucky we didn't get rats, but I'm surprised dorm personnel didn't say anything about it either. Their job was to check the dorms for the break, which means they left the boxes and rotten fruit there. Worst part by far was the bathroom. So much hair everywhere and the shower was even worse. It was also then that I discovered that I didn't have a broom or anything (turns out the trash room did though )

 

[Yousef]

I was @Gorse ‘s roommate for about a month, which is why they never went online. They were just soooo entertained by me, until he broke out of the house, then the planet exploded and he escaped and here we are now.
True story.