Super Smash Bros mod adds Nintendo cease and desist letter as playable character

[mistymermaid]

Yeah ikr? This is the first I've seen it happening, but from from what I saw during the many debates about this last week, apparently this isn't a new thing and quite a few modding communities for games like Fallout, for example, have had people trying to charge actual money to download mods.

While new, original materials you really did create are yours to sell... but yeah indeed. I'm not going to have sympathy for someone who would try to skirt the NEW part and charge for modded stuff.

 

[X y b e r - S k u ll]

While new, original materials you really did create are yours to sell... but yeah indeed. I'm not going to have sympathy for someone who would try to skirt the NEW part and charge for modded stuff.

Yeah, this was kinda my problem with this whole situation. If he'd have made fully original assets like his own character or something, I could maybe kind of see people being more okay with that (Though personally I still think it's kinda scummy to charge for mods), but he took another character from another game and decided to try and charge people $10 for it. Like, what was he honestly expecting to happen?

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

If you weren't aware, about a week or so ago Moosh released a mod that's basically a re-skin for Mr. Game and Watch in Melee, changing him to a character from Balatro. He had the mod behind a $10 paywall on his patreon which caused a debate on twitter over the logistics of paying for mods, but a very common consensus was that he was basically asking for Nintendo to send the nintendo ninjas after him. Lo and behold it's happened and now he's done this (For clarity; idk if he's paywalled this one either, I was just making a joke in my post).

What worries me about it is that it could put every Smash mod in jeopardy because N could totally assume that every modders would be tempted to make the modification a paid one (thus seeing people basically gaining money from their product).

Paywalling mods? For real?

Yeah ikr? This is the first I've seen it happening, but from from what I saw during the many debates about this last week, apparently this isn't a new thing and quite a few modding communities for games like Fallout, for example, have had people trying to charge actual money to download mods.

Why I could be willing to give money to some great modders around (if Entropy Zero 2 had a DLC to give them money I would) but the concept of paying for a mod is a pandora box because it started as a passionate project from passionate people (who would end up making their own game after a while). Making a paid mod is basically making a product for the publisher thus that shouldn't even be qualified as a mod.

Final Doom got some flack because Team TNT made their megawad a paid one so it created a small drama within the community. Thankfully they've done Icarus Alien Vanguard as a way to redeem themselves.

While new, original materials you really did create are yours to sell... but yeah indeed. I'm not going to have sympathy for someone who would try to skirt the NEW part and charge for modded stuff.

The problem is that even if the material of the mod is original and theirs this is still using something they don't own as a basis so they are profiting off something already popular to gain money.

Yes, I know that 10$ is still under the price of many DLCs from modern games, I know that Melee has stopped being sold/supported by Nintendo and yes I know that Nintendo is a company that sends C&D quite easily over anything (even for free fan games) yet I still think that their behaviour regarding this is merely better than the company they're criticising because that's also greedy.

Yeah, this was kinda my problem with this whole situation. If he'd have made fully original assets like his own character or something, I could maybe kind of see people being more okay with that (Though personally I still think it's kinda scummy to charge for mods), but he took another character from another game and decided to try and charge people $10 for it. Like, what was he honestly expecting to happen?

I also am wondering why Smash-like games aren't getting support from Smash fans who prefers not wanting to get any connection with Nintendo. A Steam platform fighter with a good engine, good gameplay and good characters could become the new Melee (yes, even if those original characters would lack the iconic aspect of Nintendo's IP the gameplay matters more.


Honestly, as much as Nintendo can be excruciatingly annoying regarding copyrights and mods/fangames, that's the actual kind of stuff they should prevent from happening (next to bootlegs).

 

[Sfjeov]