Star Trek (To Boldly Go)

[diet_orange]

Any Trekkies here? Been a fan since I was super young and it was almost always on TV. I love that it's less about "seeking out new life and new civilizations" and more about the human condition

 

[DjQuick2008]

Yeah just renewed my paramount + so i can watch again

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this 1 cheers me up not seen it for a while

 

[Jayonnaise6105 Jayonnaise6105]

I've only seen TNG & Voyager, but I'd say yes. I fell in love with the 90-ish minute long first episode of The Next Generation where Picard has to defend humanity to the Q Continuum.

Also, some of the people who worked on My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic were Trekkies and slipped a few Star Trek references in here and there into the show. That's the kind of thing that adds to my enjoyment of both shows!

 

[Clippy]

I used to watch Star Trek quite a bit when I was a youngin because my mom's a big fan. I thought it was alright but I can't say I ever fell in love with it or anything like that.

 

[bjork]

I watched a season of Voyager but that's my entire star trek experience. All I remember is I liked the klingon lady and I did not like neelix.

 

[Jayonnaise6105 Jayonnaise6105]

I watched a season of Voyager but that's my entire star trek experience. All I remember is I liked the klingon lady and I did not like neelix.

From memory, Neelix did grow on me after a little while but he wasn't a favourite of mine.

 

[Neb Lleb]

Any Trekkies here? Been a fan since I was super young and it was almost always on TV. I love that it's less about "seeking out new life and new civilizations" and more about the human condition

I'm actually in the midst of watching Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and the simply-titled Enterprise as of this writing! Indeed, Star Trek and South Park are why I extended my Amazon Prime subscription to also include Paramount Plus.

[Enterprise is the better show, BTW, though ST: SNW is also fun]

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Also, some of the people who worked on My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic were Trekkies and slipped a few Star Trek references in here and there into the show. That's the kind of thing that adds to my enjoyment of both shows!

Friendship is Magic and Lauren Faust and co. aren't the only Children's TV show that references/loves Star Trek: ReBoot, a really fantastic CG show, actually made a few nods, such as when Season 1 & 2 lead Bob accuses a pair of Binomes of triggering a bomb in a planet in a game, re-enacting the plot of Star Trek Generations (the seventh film), and Season 3 going all-out with an episode called "Where No Sprite Has Gone Before", with S3 lead Enzo Matrix as Captain James T. Kirk, his love interest-cum-sidekick AndrAIa as Spock, and a group of superhero programs as the new life and civilisation they encounter.

 

[diet_orange]

Also this has been in my possession for ages as well. Used to belong to my dad (along with a Playmates figure of Barclay). Thick little bastard too

 

[DAME NINGEN]

I enjoyed the first season of good ol' Cap't Kirk's Greek Dramas In Space when I watched it on tv as a kid and, more recently, the 70's animated series, which had a surprisingly good soundtrack and, of course, M'ress. Shame she barely had any screentime but, at the very least, her va nailed the role. Other than that, I know next to nothing about it.

I love that it's less about "seeking out new life and new civilizations" and more about the human condition

Any series that are more about "seeking out new life and new civilizations" and less about the human condition? Preferably animated, I'm not that big on live action.

 

[Jayonnaise6105 Jayonnaise6105]

I'm actually in the midst of watching Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and the simply-titled Enterprise as of this writing! Indeed, Star Trek and South Park are why I extended my Amazon Prime subscription to also include Paramount Plus.

[Enterprise is the better show, BTW, though ST: SNW is also fun]

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Friendship is Magic and Lauren Faust and co. aren't the only Children's TV show that references/loves Star Trek: ReBoot, a really fantastic CG show, actually made a few nods, such as when Season 1 & 2 lead Bob accuses a pair of Binomes of triggering a bomb in a planet in a game, re-enacting the plot of Star Trek Generations (the seventh film), and Season 3 going all-out with an episode called "Where No Sprite Has Gone Before", with S3 lead Enzo Matrix as Captain James T. Kirk, his love interest-cum-sidekick AndrAIa as Spock, and a group of superhero programs as the new life and civilisation they encounter.

I'm sure Star Trek references are everywhere. ReBoot is awesome! I need to re-watch that show sometime.
I was watching the first few episodes of the Drew Carey Show last night and I'd forgotten that one of his friends in the show was an established Star Trek fan.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

and, of course, M'ress. Shame she barely had any screentime but, at the very least, her va nailed the role. Other than that, I know next to nothing about it.

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Jokes aside I understand that the season was meant to be animated since it used unused scripts and the actors were probably busy.

Sadly I couldn't get into the first series because of how dated it was (despite the interesting subjects and themes). TNG has stood the test of time better.

I kinda liked Voyager but didn't take too much time watching DS9 because the idea of a Space Station instead of a ship seemed lame to me back then.

I kinda liked Enterprise but I understand why fans didn't like that one and Discovery was eh (I kinda liked the parallel wold arc but that's it).

I've watched the movie trilogy but was apathetic because those felt more like Disney Star Wars with a Star Trek reskin (thanks JJA) but at least this didn't reboot the entire franchise since it was clearly an alternative timeline.

I should watch a selection of the best episodes of each series because I don't have the time nor patiente to see the entirety (same with Doctor Who btw).

On a side note, I feel like ST tried its best to stand up against Babylon 5 and BattleStar Galactica as Space Opera series.

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But I'd rewatch ST: First Contact anytime simply because it's my favourite movie of the franchise

 

[Jayonnaise6105 Jayonnaise6105]

I've watched the movie trilogy but was apathetic because those felt more like Disney Star Wars with a Star Trek reskin (thanks JJA) but at least this didn't reboot the entire franchise since it was clearly an alternative timeline

Yeah, I couldn't get into the 2009 movie reboot trilogy. Like you said, it felt more like Star Wars and that isn't why I watched Star Trek in the first place.

 

[Mork]

My only experience of star trek is watching no context clips and this goofy ahh compilation

Riker is kinda cool ngl

 

[Tonberry]

I started watching TNG during covid and fell in love. I couldn't believe how good it was. I love how optimistic and progressive it felt, as someone who's only real sci-fi experience prior had been Star Wars (which I outgrew) and 40K (which I never really liked) and Battlestar Galactica (which I've only absorbed through osmosis since my family are superfans) since I'm almost exclusively a Fantasy enjoyer, I felt TNG was a way better fit for me. Never afraid of tackling serious themes, but also never afraid of being super whimsical and just fun.

Currently very slowly making my way through DS9, but I like it a bunch so far. I think the setting for it is really cool.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Yeah, I couldn't get into the 2009 movie reboot trilogy. Like you said, it felt more like Star Wars and that isn't why I watched Star Trek in the first place.

They made it more "actionny" to appeal to the crowd because let's be honest, Star Trek is 90% talking about philosophical concepts and 10% action.

It's also why I find the newer Dune movies a bit too "action oriented" when most of the book had inner monologues (which people hated about Lynch's movie despite being closer to the book in term of feelings).

 

[Jayonnaise6105 Jayonnaise6105]

My only experience of star trek is watching no context clips and this goofy ahh compilation

Riker is kinda cool ngl

I would say to check it out at some point, but I see you already get the gist of it

 

[Potapota]

Rewatching star trek (up to voyager) is practically all the tv I watch anymore. It's hard to pick a favorite. They all have their own charm and a place and time to enjoy them.

 

[Jayonnaise6105 Jayonnaise6105]

Rewatching star trek (up to voyager) is practically all the tv I watch anymore. It's hard to pick a favorite. They all have their own charm and a place and time to enjoy them.

I will say, TNG especially is just cozy viewing for me. Something about Sci-Fi & Fantasy TV from that era. I get a similar cozy vibe from Xena. I think they still used some digital effects here and there, but they still got a lot out of the practical effects

 

[Neb Lleb]

Yeah, I couldn't get into the 2009 movie reboot trilogy. Like you said, it felt more like Star Wars and that isn't why I watched Star Trek in the first place.

TBH, As someone who likes the Kelvin Trilogy I have to agree, at least for Star Trek XI and Into Darkness. With Justin Lin's third outing, Beyond, you can tell there was a real effort to balance out the action with Trek-tinged adventure and concepts, but the Kelvin Trilogy is, at its core, an actionised affair in a franchise known for more deliberately paced stories. And I think this is why Star Trek works best on TV: On TV, you can have as many slowly paced stories as you want and keep the audience entertained; whilst movies, especially crowd-pleasing blockbusters, have to impress a lot of people.

EDIT: However, I do think that most of the out-and-out hatred for the Kelvin Trilogy comes from Star Trek Elitists; the same crowd of terminally online loons who obsess over hating the newer stuff for dumb reasons and watch alt-right media grifters like The Dave Cullen Show and Critical Drinker. Is it okay to hate these movies and the later TV shows? Sure. But unfortunately, the most vocal crowd is the most insane, most politically driven, most mean people. And same thing with people who love all of the new stuff: It's okay to like Discovery, Lower Decks and the Chabon era of Picard (S1 and S2), but the most vocal crowd who praise this stuff are unpleasant people on reddit who watch far-left breadtubers like Rowan J Coleman and Jessie Gender. Same shit, different side.

 

[diet_orange]

I kinda liked Voyager but didn't take too much time watching DS9 because the idea of a Space Station instead of a ship seemed lame to me back then.

Both DS9 and Babylon 5 are much more "new age religion/political dramas" and probably aren't for everybody. But I do love them both to death

Also kind of fell in love with the "warrior monk" archetype because of Kira, D'lynn, and Zhan from Farscape

 

[Neb Lleb]

Both DS9 and Babylon 5 are much more "new age religion/political dramas" and probably aren't for everybody. But I do love them both to death

Also kind of fell in love with the "warrior monk" archetype because of Kira, D'lynn, and Zhan from Farscape

I watched a lot of Babylon 5 as a teen. I knew it before viewing for its space battle-centric episodes (I.E. "Midnight on the Firing Line", "Point of No Return/Severed Dreams", and the movie A Call to Arms), but I was blindsided by how it was a spacebound, deliberately paced political drama that dealt with heavy themes first and foremost.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Both DS9 and Babylon 5 are much more "new age religion/political dramas" and probably aren't for everybody. But I do love them both to death

Also kind of fell in love with the "warrior monk" archetype because of Kira, D'lynn, and Zhan from Farscape

I forgot about FarScape, it was a crazy show. I think that weirdness came from the fact it's Australian and it made is stand out compared to other Space Opera.


Ah, I want to talk about more but I don't want to digress too much from Star Trek.


Back to ST I loved that one episode where Picard suddenly became a member of a primitive society and had a nice life

Spoiler

until you discover that he has just lost consciousness on the deck and was just relieving the memories of a vanished civilisation that didn't want their memory to fade to dust.

 

[Jayonnaise6105 Jayonnaise6105]

TBH, As someone who likes the Kelvin Trilogy I have to agree, at least for Star Trek XI and Into Darkness. With Justin Lin's third outing, Beyond, you can tell there was a real effort to balance out the action with Trek-tinged adventure and concepts, but the Kelvin Trilogy is, at its core, an actionised affair in a franchise known for more deliberately paced stories. And I think this is why Star Trek works best on TV: On TV, you can have as many slowly paced stories as you want and keep the audience entertained; whilst movies, especially crowd-pleasing blockbusters, have to impress a lot of people.

EDIT: However, I do think that most of the out-and-out hatred for the Kelvin Trilogy comes from Star Trek Elitists; the same crowd of terminally online loons who obsess over hating the newer stuff for dumb reasons and watch alt-right media grifters like The Dave Cullen Show and Critical Drinker. Is it okay to hate these movies and the later TV shows? Sure. But unfortunately, the most vocal crowd is the most insane, most politically driven, most mean people. And same thing with people who love all of the new stuff: It's okay to like Discovery, Lower Decks and the Chabon era of Picard (S1 and S2), but the most vocal crowd who praise this stuff are unpleasant people on reddit who watch far-left breadtubers like Rowan J Coleman and Jessie Gender. Same shit, different side.

Maybe I'll give that trilogy another go sometime, but I'll at least need to better set my expectations.

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

I watched a lot of Babylon 5 as a teen. I knew it before viewing for its space battle-centric episodes (I.E. "Midnight on the Firing Line", "Point of No Return/Severed Dreams", and the movie A Call to Arms), but I was blindsided by how it was a spacebound, deliberately paced political drama that dealt with heavy themes first and foremost.

I'll be honest, as much as I respect Star Wars for its iconicity... It was clearly a teen adventure with sci fi, western and samurai mixed together in a blender for an epic story but without the depth of a Star Trek (sure, the extended universe and the Clone Wars tackled more serious subjects but people hated the Prelogy for it being too slow paced and political among other issues). Dune was clearly the inspiration but so was Flash Gordon which was more of a pulp so much more about action than thinking.

I think SW's prelogy would've been much more fitting as a TV series for the political themes and the movie should've been only about the Revenge of the Siths as an epic finale from it.


Then again I'm digressing into non ST stuff, sorry those were my last two cents.

 

[Neb Lleb]

Maybe I'll give that trilogy another go sometime, but I'll at least need to better set my expectations.

TBH, the best Star Trek movies in my opinion are easily Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, Star Trek: First Contact (the film which Enterprise serves as a standalone continuation of) and Galaxy Quest. But I do have a soft spot for The Motion Picture, IV: The Voyage Home, Generations, Star Trek XI and Beyond.

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I'll be honest, as much as I respect Star Wars for its iconicity... It was clearly a teen adventure with sci fi, western and samurai mixed together in a blender for an epic story but without the depth of a Star Trek (sure, the extended universe and the Clone Wars tackled more serious subjects but people hated the Prelogy for it being too slow paced and political among other issues). Dune was clearly the inspiration but so was Flash Gordon which was more of a pulp so much more about action than thinking.

I think SW's prelogy would've been much more fitting as a TV series for the political themes and the movie should've been only about the Revenge of the Siths as an epic finale from it.


Then again I'm digressing into non ST stuff, sorry those were my last two cents.

Sorry, but Star Wars doesn't count. Star Trek is science fiction, Star Wars is fantasy. It's a spacebound fantasy. It's just as much a fantasy series as The Chronicles of Narnia or the works of Tolkein. Comparing the two is quite frankly dumb.