Series That Go Too Far?

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Do you ever watch something and wish it had more restraint? That an earlier entry was better because it didn't go way too far in the direction of spectacle, action set pieces, implausibility, expansive and sprawling worlds or just generally in some direction you disagreed with?

I got the idea to ask from thinking about John Wick. The first movie felt perfect. It gave the impression there was a wider world out there without going way too far into showing rather than telling, and that ultimately it was a rather contained revenge and catharsis story. Then John Wick 2 made it far less believable and I think 3 (I tapped out) basically had what felt like someone who was a part of the organisation on every damn street corner.
 
a busy street with a sign that says karaoke

Fast and the furious franchise, need I say more.
The last two Pirates and the Caribbean movies.
 
EDIT: I didn't notice this was on the Movies & TV board, my bad!

I liked Kingdom Hearts more when it felt more like a "Neverending Story" thing featuring a bunch of "real world" original kids who got thrust into a fantasy world blending Disney and Square properties. Making the bad guy also an original character felt genius to me.
While I do get why they transformed it into its own thing I still kind of like the atmosphere and tone of the first one the most.
 
EDIT: I didn't notice this was on the Movies & TV board, my bad!

I liked Kingdom Hearts more when it felt more like a "Neverending Story" thing featuring a bunch of "real world" original kids who got thrust into a fantasy world blending Disney and Square properties. Making the bad guy also an original character felt genius to me.
While I do get why they transformed it into its own thing I still kind of like the atmosphere and tone of the first one the most.
Well the saga is pretty much over. Anything they do now will be completely new.
 
Well the saga is pretty much over. Anything they do now will be completely new.
True but I mean, I have such a strong connection to the first game in particular that I don't really feel the vibe of anything that came after. It's kind of cursed in that regard for me, as the crossover stuff made less and less sense the longer it went on but they can't let it go entirely because it's part of the DNA so it's like turned into a weird golem of itself.

I liked "Human boy saves Disney movies from wacky evil cartoon monsters with Donald Duck and Goofy with the power of friendship and the help of his Final Fantasy friends" more than "Human boy defeats morose rogues' gallery of evil shadow society with the power of friendship, also Donald and Goofy are there I guess". It felt like playing something I would dream up when I was 7-8 years old, or scribble in a notebook during class. It was the sheer whimsy of it all that appealed to me.

I don't lament it or anything though. I love the first game and can go back to it whenever I feel nostalgic, and my brother keeps me updated on the rest as he's a superfan of it all.
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To answer your question with a real answer OP;
Game of Thrones past season 4-5 ish, where it started to feel more like a soap-opera because they started bringing characters back and doing their own spin on the stories. I didn't even read the books but I felt a shift in tone I didn't care for, because season 3 and 4 are just fantastic.

Sorry for accidentally hijacking your thread!
 
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I knew before I even clicked on this thread that it would be about John Wick LOL. It's become such a common complaint made about the series. Personally, I love all the JW movies (including Ballerina) and I don't think ANY of them were ever grounded in reality. We had comic book style words popping up onscreen and people talking about "Baba Yaga" killing people with pencils in the very first movie. JW was always silly and campy to me.

If we want to talk going too far, see every Michael Bay movie ever

As for Kingdom Hearts, I wish it was just a simple story about a kid traveling to different Disney worlds with Donald and Goofy without the hyper convoluted story telling and unnecessary Final Fantasy cameos. Sometimes less is more
 
I'd also like to add all the Jurassic films after the first one.
The first Jurassic Park movie is a genuine marvel to this day, a cinematic masterpiece and the culmination of the blockbuster format.

Everything that came afterwards felt like, and keeps feeling like:
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Do you ever watch something and wish it had more restraint? That an earlier entry was better because it didn't go way too far in the direction of spectacle, action set pieces, implausibility, expansive and sprawling worlds or just generally in some direction you disagreed with?

I got the idea to ask from thinking about John Wick. The first movie felt perfect. It gave the impression there was a wider world out there without going way too far into showing rather than telling, and that ultimately it was a rather contained revenge and catharsis story. Then John Wick 2 made it far less believable and I think 3 (I tapped out) basically had what felt like someone who was a part of the organisation on every damn street corner.
Then better don't watch the 4th installment xD.

Movies that went too far can be any movies that are being released indiscriminately as a saga. James Bond comes to mind. Marvel universe recreating the same movies over and over like Spiderman. Star Wars, Batman, etc.

And the worst part is that they can't stop releasing more, because they are famous. We all here will be dead and they will still keep releasing them.
 
I don't know if anyone remembers a show called Once Upon a Time, but it's a shame Sora never went to Storybrooke. Okay I'll stop with the Kingdom Hearts talk.
 
I got the idea to ask from thinking about John Wick. The first movie felt perfect. It gave the impression there was a wider world out there without going way too far into showing rather than telling, and that ultimately it was a rather contained revenge and catharsis story. Then John Wick 2 made it far less believable and I think 3 (I tapped out) basically had what felt like someone who was a part of the organisation on every damn street corner.
On the surface John Wick seems like a movie about "just a simple pew pew action" but in reality there is a sense of a series that as an old enough person who is also a gamer and experienced all the generic fiction humanity had to offer there is always something you can relate yourself to in the movie. It's a series that a natural reason of an old enough person produced in the way old enough people can relate to, not just to enjoy action per se. Story itself or action scenes itself not important here. In the end it doesn't make me like the series, it just make me say to myself "it's watchable". But I kinda enjoy to think artistically about the whole series when you bother to see it in the context of metaphors by forgetting real life aspect of the series. Then what you understand is basically a movie version of how a man can feel like how living an ordinary man life feels like. In this man life of a movie series it's filled with what a man fears from and what a man expect from society. In the end you see a man's desire on how to end all these. However while I see movies I watch in their own context I also enjoy them in artistical POV when they make me think about interesting stuff even when they really didn't intent so per se, then it would make me feel like the movie is subconcious manifastation of their inner world and it would make me enjoy to think anyway. But on surface level yes the series got too long for it lost the charm of fun action scenes after 2nd movie, but then the series actually turned into something else. It got more "phoetic" in its own way.

To answer your question for the sake of this thread:

- The Terminator series: We got the point in the 1st movie and 2nd movie was ok, and then series entered into time paradox of BS lol.

- Jurassic Park: I never thought this series released a decent movie that uses its whole potential per se, for me they go side track and basically do the same boring shit despite it been so many movies since it started.

- The Alien: I just can't believe how much they stretched this shit. My brother told me about this series and it seems they combined lots of empty series to merge it into one big universe yet it doesn't impress me at all. For me it seems like this: 0 x 0 x 0 x 0 x 0 = 0 lolol

- The Resident Evil: It's probably the most empty and long movie series that has ever existed. I can also say the same shit for its game series too.

- Sonic movies: I played its first 3 games and never imagined it would have a story enough to make a movie of it lol.

- The Indiana Jones Series: How unrealistic and scientifically how it fucks shit up makes me wanna make sure my brain is totally destroyed when I even think about it. If it was sci-fi despite it was bad I would be okay, this shit is way worse than how Nolan fucks up basic logic in his movies lol. And I can't make sense what kind of BS there may be in this series enough to last that long. Even Star Wars makes more sense lol.

- The Rambo Series: Just why lol.

- The Fantastic Beasts and some BS: For a movie that lasted that long its story is shorter than plot description of the first Harry Potter book SMH lol.

Now now, I did push some buttons with my careless sincere honesty again so I'll delta ASAP!!! lolol:

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