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Based on the forum thread you linked and the image you shared, this appears to be part of a series of custom ciphered messages sent by someone going by "MistHunter" to various users on the site. The thread is a collaborative effort to decode them, and while progress has been made, none seem fully solved as of the last posts (which predate today). The consensus there is that it's a monoalphabetic substitution cipher—each unique symbol maps to a unique letter—with the plaintext in Spanish. Some users speculated on multiple meanings for certain symbols or influences from Romance languages, but most attempts assume a one-to-one mapping.
### Key Insights from the Thread
- **Theories and Attempts**: Users like Cantarella and secreto7 have tried mapping symbols to letters by guessing common Spanish words and phrases. They've noted that some symbols resemble upside-down or rotated letters (e.g., an upside-down 'y' possibly for "yo" in Spanish). Frequency analysis and pattern matching (e.g., looking for common words like "la", "el", "de", "que") have been used, but lack of confirmation from MistHunter has stalled things. One user compared it to unsolved cases like the Zodiac killer ciphers.
- **Language Confirmation**: Yes, Spanish is widely agreed upon, based on partial decodes forming Spanish words and phrases. One post even offers support in Spanish: "Nada más vengo para darte mi apoyo en esta odisea..."
- **Partial Decodes**: Here's a table summarizing the extracted partial decodings from similar messages in the thread (underscores represent unknown letters/symbols). They seem to be sarcastic or insulting notes, possibly as a joke.
| Recipient | Partial Decode (in Spanish) | Possible Full Interpretation (Guessed) |
|-----------|-----------------------------|----------------------------------------|
| Clippy | Eres re persone nes<br>est_te __e ge sonosito<br>...i esto no es pesir | Eres la persona más<br>estúpida que he conocido<br>Si esto no es así (="You are the most stupid person I've known. If this is not so") |
| ge_rerro | re _nise persone en<br>tenostrerne _onete<br>is_ni no es<br>tespresie_re<br>te estino i estoi<br>egretesito<br>ten e_serente senene | La única persona en<br>el universo que<br>así ni no es<br>despreciable<br>te destino y estoy<br>agradecido<br>ten esperanza siempre (="The only person in the universe who is like that is not despicable. Your destiny and I am grateful. Have hope always") |
| Dating Thread | e_p_r_ e_t__ __e_!<br>n_ e_e_r_ s___r __e e__e_<br>r_n___n__s_ r_s g_ o_s_r_e_o<br>n_s_e_ g_e_i_s e t_t_s p_r i___r<br>e_s_r_n_e p_n t_ s_n_n_!<br>e_e_t_n_n_e<br>n_s_ g_n_e_<br>s_s_e_ n_t_i_g_ | Esperamos estar allá!<br>No veremos nunca más que esto<br>Renunciamos ras go observatorio<br>Nuestro guerrero es títulos por igual<br>Esperamos pun to sinón!<br>Electrónica<br>Nos ganaste<br>Sistema notifig (This one is less clear, possibly "We hope to be there! We will never see more than this. We renounce [something] observatory. Our warrior has titles to match! We hope [something] synonym! Electronics. You beat us. Notification system") |
These decodes are incomplete and speculative, but they show patterns like repeated "e" (common in Spanish) and short words.
- **Hints and Context**: No direct hints from MistHunter, but the messages praise or poke fun at recipients (e.g., one references Zerpina's music). There's mention of a decoded magazine quote ("La ciencia es un instrumento maravilloso...") unrelated to the ciphers, possibly as inspiration for solving methods.
- **Solved?**: No, it's ongoing. Users are frustrated but suggest using paper/pencil for mapping and common sense/guessing.
### Ideas to Solve Your Specific Cipher
Your image matches the one posted by Kamako in the thread (for comparison purposes), so it's likely another message in the same style. It starts with symbols followed by ", R G 7 !", which might be a mangled "RGT!" (the forum's initials), suggesting the opening is "Saludos," (Spanish for "Greetings,") in cipher. The name "Zorrina:" could be the recipient or a signature. There are also emojis/drawings (fire, clapping hands, smiley), which might be decorations, punctuation, or part of the cipher (e.g., representing words like "applause" or "happy").
1. **Identify Unique Symbols**: From your image, the glyphs seem built from lines (^ for up, v for down, / \ for diagonals, ( ) [ ] for curves/brackets, etc.) on grid paper. List all unique ones (about 20-26 for a full alphabet). Include any that resemble letters/numbers (e.g., the "7" might be a symbol for "T" or "L"). Unique ones visible: ^, /, \, v, (, ), [, <, >, o (dots?), +, K (or |< ?), and emojis like
,
,
.
2. **Frequency Analysis**: Count occurrences of each symbol in the full transcription. Map the most frequent to "E" (12-13% in Spanish), then "A" (11-12%), "O" (8-9%), etc. Use tools like online frequency counters if you transcribe it into text (replace symbols with placeholders like A=^, B=/, etc.).
3. **Assume Structure**: Messages follow "Greetings, RGT! [Name]: [Body]". Guess the body starts with common Spanish phrases like "Eres la..." (You are the...). Look for repeated symbols (doubles like "ee" in "que") or short words (1-2 symbols for "y", "a", "de").
4. **Compare to Other Messages**: Use the partial mappings from the thread. For example, if a symbol in your image matches one in their decodes (e.g., for "e" or "r"), test it consistently across all messages for consistency.
5. **Possible Cipher Type Variations**:
- **Custom Substitution**: Most likely, as per the thread. Try solving with an online tool like Quipqiup (input a transcribed version with placeholders).
- **Pigpen/Masonic Cipher**: The grid paper and line-based symbols strongly resemble this geometric substitution (letters replaced by grid fragments, often with dots).<grok:render card_id="770663" card_type="citation_card" type="render_inline_citation">
<argument name="citation_id">2</argument>
</grok:render> In Pigpen, "A" might be [, "B" = ^, "E" = full box (like [] or () combined), etc. Print a standard Pigpen key and match your glyphs—variants exist (e.g., dots for later letters, or reordered grids).<grok:render card_id="af7f7b" card_type="citation_card" type="render_inline_citation">
<argument name="citation_id">3</argument>
</grok:render> If it fits, decode assuming Spanish (ignore or map Ñ to a rare symbol).
- **Rosicrucian Variant**: Similar to Pigpen but uses dots in positions (1-3 dots per grid cell for letters).<grok:render card_id="9dd124" card_type="citation_card" type="render_inline_citation">
<argument name="citation_id">4</argument>
</grok:render> Check if dots ("o" or . in your image) align.
- **Not Morse or Binary**: Symbols don't match dots/dashes or 0/1 patterns.
6. **Tools to Try**:
- Transcribe the image into a string (e.g., "^/\[(V(^/\^)/" as word 1), then use Python/SymPy via a code interpreter for automated solving (frequency + dictionary attack on Spanish words).
- Online decoders: Search for "substitution cipher solver Spanish" or specific ones for Pigpen.
- Collaborate: Post your transcription in the thread for community input.
If you provide a transcribed version (e.g., labeling each glyph as S1 S2 S3...), I can help brainstorm mappings further. It looks fun—good luck cracking it!<grok:render card_id="05634d" card_type="citation_card" type="render_inline_citation">
<argument name="citation_id">0</argument>
</grok:render> "
Analysis by grok
Based on the forum thread you linked and the image you shared, this appears to be part of a series of custom ciphered messages sent by someone going by "MistHunter" to various users on the site. The thread is a collaborative effort to decode them, and while progress has been made, none seem fully solved as of the last posts (which predate today). The consensus there is that it's a monoalphabetic substitution cipher—each unique symbol maps to a unique letter—with the plaintext in Spanish. Some users speculated on multiple meanings for certain symbols or influences from Romance languages, but most attempts assume a one-to-one mapping.
### Key Insights from the Thread
- **Theories and Attempts**: Users like Cantarella and secreto7 have tried mapping symbols to letters by guessing common Spanish words and phrases. They've noted that some symbols resemble upside-down or rotated letters (e.g., an upside-down 'y' possibly for "yo" in Spanish). Frequency analysis and pattern matching (e.g., looking for common words like "la", "el", "de", "que") have been used, but lack of confirmation from MistHunter has stalled things. One user compared it to unsolved cases like the Zodiac killer ciphers.
- **Language Confirmation**: Yes, Spanish is widely agreed upon, based on partial decodes forming Spanish words and phrases. One post even offers support in Spanish: "Nada más vengo para darte mi apoyo en esta odisea..."
- **Partial Decodes**: Here's a table summarizing the extracted partial decodings from similar messages in the thread (underscores represent unknown letters/symbols). They seem to be sarcastic or insulting notes, possibly as a joke.
| Recipient | Partial Decode (in Spanish) | Possible Full Interpretation (Guessed) |
|-----------|-----------------------------|----------------------------------------|
| Clippy | Eres re persone nes<br>est_te __e ge sonosito<br>...i esto no es pesir | Eres la persona más<br>estúpida que he conocido<br>Si esto no es así (="You are the most stupid person I've known. If this is not so") |
| ge_rerro | re _nise persone en<br>tenostrerne _onete<br>is_ni no es<br>tespresie_re<br>te estino i estoi<br>egretesito<br>ten e_serente senene | La única persona en<br>el universo que<br>así ni no es<br>despreciable<br>te destino y estoy<br>agradecido<br>ten esperanza siempre (="The only person in the universe who is like that is not despicable. Your destiny and I am grateful. Have hope always") |
| Dating Thread | e_p_r_ e_t__ __e_!<br>n_ e_e_r_ s___r __e e__e_<br>r_n___n__s_ r_s g_ o_s_r_e_o<br>n_s_e_ g_e_i_s e t_t_s p_r i___r<br>e_s_r_n_e p_n t_ s_n_n_!<br>e_e_t_n_n_e<br>n_s_ g_n_e_<br>s_s_e_ n_t_i_g_ | Esperamos estar allá!<br>No veremos nunca más que esto<br>Renunciamos ras go observatorio<br>Nuestro guerrero es títulos por igual<br>Esperamos pun to sinón!<br>Electrónica<br>Nos ganaste<br>Sistema notifig (This one is less clear, possibly "We hope to be there! We will never see more than this. We renounce [something] observatory. Our warrior has titles to match! We hope [something] synonym! Electronics. You beat us. Notification system") |
These decodes are incomplete and speculative, but they show patterns like repeated "e" (common in Spanish) and short words.
- **Hints and Context**: No direct hints from MistHunter, but the messages praise or poke fun at recipients (e.g., one references Zerpina's music). There's mention of a decoded magazine quote ("La ciencia es un instrumento maravilloso...") unrelated to the ciphers, possibly as inspiration for solving methods.
- **Solved?**: No, it's ongoing. Users are frustrated but suggest using paper/pencil for mapping and common sense/guessing.
### Ideas to Solve Your Specific Cipher
Your image matches the one posted by Kamako in the thread (for comparison purposes), so it's likely another message in the same style. It starts with symbols followed by ", R G 7 !", which might be a mangled "RGT!" (the forum's initials), suggesting the opening is "Saludos," (Spanish for "Greetings,") in cipher. The name "Zorrina:" could be the recipient or a signature. There are also emojis/drawings (fire, clapping hands, smiley), which might be decorations, punctuation, or part of the cipher (e.g., representing words like "applause" or "happy").
1. **Identify Unique Symbols**: From your image, the glyphs seem built from lines (^ for up, v for down, / \ for diagonals, ( ) [ ] for curves/brackets, etc.) on grid paper. List all unique ones (about 20-26 for a full alphabet). Include any that resemble letters/numbers (e.g., the "7" might be a symbol for "T" or "L"). Unique ones visible: ^, /, \, v, (, ), [, <, >, o (dots?), +, K (or |< ?), and emojis like



2. **Frequency Analysis**: Count occurrences of each symbol in the full transcription. Map the most frequent to "E" (12-13% in Spanish), then "A" (11-12%), "O" (8-9%), etc. Use tools like online frequency counters if you transcribe it into text (replace symbols with placeholders like A=^, B=/, etc.).
3. **Assume Structure**: Messages follow "Greetings, RGT! [Name]: [Body]". Guess the body starts with common Spanish phrases like "Eres la..." (You are the...). Look for repeated symbols (doubles like "ee" in "que") or short words (1-2 symbols for "y", "a", "de").
4. **Compare to Other Messages**: Use the partial mappings from the thread. For example, if a symbol in your image matches one in their decodes (e.g., for "e" or "r"), test it consistently across all messages for consistency.
5. **Possible Cipher Type Variations**:
- **Custom Substitution**: Most likely, as per the thread. Try solving with an online tool like Quipqiup (input a transcribed version with placeholders).
- **Pigpen/Masonic Cipher**: The grid paper and line-based symbols strongly resemble this geometric substitution (letters replaced by grid fragments, often with dots).<grok:render card_id="770663" card_type="citation_card" type="render_inline_citation">
<argument name="citation_id">2</argument>
</grok:render> In Pigpen, "A" might be [, "B" = ^, "E" = full box (like [] or () combined), etc. Print a standard Pigpen key and match your glyphs—variants exist (e.g., dots for later letters, or reordered grids).<grok:render card_id="af7f7b" card_type="citation_card" type="render_inline_citation">
<argument name="citation_id">3</argument>
</grok:render> If it fits, decode assuming Spanish (ignore or map Ñ to a rare symbol).
- **Rosicrucian Variant**: Similar to Pigpen but uses dots in positions (1-3 dots per grid cell for letters).<grok:render card_id="9dd124" card_type="citation_card" type="render_inline_citation">
<argument name="citation_id">4</argument>
</grok:render> Check if dots ("o" or . in your image) align.
- **Not Morse or Binary**: Symbols don't match dots/dashes or 0/1 patterns.
6. **Tools to Try**:
- Transcribe the image into a string (e.g., "^/\[(V(^/\^)/" as word 1), then use Python/SymPy via a code interpreter for automated solving (frequency + dictionary attack on Spanish words).
- Online decoders: Search for "substitution cipher solver Spanish" or specific ones for Pigpen.
- Collaborate: Post your transcription in the thread for community input.
If you provide a transcribed version (e.g., labeling each glyph as S1 S2 S3...), I can help brainstorm mappings further. It looks fun—good luck cracking it!<grok:render card_id="05634d" card_type="citation_card" type="render_inline_citation">
<argument name="citation_id">0</argument>
</grok:render> "
Analysis by grok