N64 Perfect Dark

[RageBurner]

Its a great game, just might control horribly these days cuz of that whole time period.

Haha a bit of jank comes with the territory. Something like Body Harvest is janky by today's standards, but it still blazed a trail.

 

[Skeetos]

Well, that's interesting... I'd love to read more about that!

Unfortunately, I'm so broke that I don't even have a PC, so that's also not an option. Thanks, though!

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Haha a bit of jank comes with the territory. Something like Body Harvest is janky by today's standards, but it still blazed a trail.

Man, Body Harvest is an excellent game as well. Really ambitious for the system I think.

 

[Ikagura]

There is the PC port someone made. but it was made with stolen code so idk what your opinions are on that.

Stolen code? I'm confused about that.

Its a great game, just might control horribly these days cuz of that whole time period.

I kinda disagree because despite the one stick control (well, the c-arrows are still there as a second control method) Rareware understood that they couldn't have made a simple Quake-like (like Turok) so they made the game slow enough to be able to aim well and that there's no proper jump mechanic.

Of course the XBLA and PC versions are much better.

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I understood that Goldeneye was the most popular because it was the first of its kind and because you needed the Expansion Kit to play in solo (and because in 2000 the Dreamcast was already out and the PS2 was about to come so a N64 looked obsolete despite the quality of the late games) but I think that Perfect Dark is legitimately better in almost every way.

Especially because of the more complex designs, actual knock down mechanic (so you can basically kill nobody in a mission and it adds more complexity as in "don't kill that NPC"), having an alt fire for every guns (even if some are useless), better gun variety (Goldeneye has too many machineguns imo) and a story that fits better a videogame than Goldeneye loosely following the movie's plot with some changes and added element (even if it's a bit of a cheesy sci-fi story from the 90's).

I think Goldeneye is easier and more accessible to play than Perfect Dark with more complex objectives and bigger levels.

 

[Ícaro Oliveira Santos]

I kinda disagree because despite the one stick control (well, the c-arrows are still there as a second control method) Rareware understood that they couldn't have made a simple Quake-like (like Turok) so they made the game slow enough to be able to aim well and that there's no proper jump mechanic.

Of course the XBLA and PC versions are much better.

She's talking about Jet Force Gemini, not Perfect Dark.

 

[Ikagura]

She's talking about Jet Force Gemini, not Perfect Dark.

Oops.

I kinda agree on that one. I'd love to see a decompilation on PC like the other games.

 

[Skeetos]

Stolen code? I'm confused about that.


I kinda disagree because despite the one stick control (well, the c-arrows are still there as a second control method) Rareware understood that they couldn't have made a simple Quake-like (like Turok) so they made the game slow enough to be able to aim well and that there's no proper jump mechanic.

Of course the XBLA and PC versions are much better.

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I understood that Goldeneye was the most popular because it was the first of its kind and because you needed the Expansion Kit to play in solo (and because in 2000 the Dreamcast was already out and the PS2 was about to come so a N64 looked obsolete despite the quality of the late games) but I think that Perfect Dark is legitimately better in almost every way.

Especially because of the more complex designs, actual knock down mechanic (so you can basically kill nobody in a mission and it adds more complexity as in "don't kill that NPC"), having an alt fire for every guns (even if some are useless), better gun variety (Goldeneye has too many machineguns imo) and a story that fits better a videogame than Goldeneye loosely following the movie's plot with some changes and added element (even if it's a bit of a cheesy sci-fi story from the 90's).

I think Goldeneye is easier and more accessible to play than Perfect Dark with more complex objectives and bigger levels.

Wasn't it made with the legit source code? From that big N leak a few years back? Idk I don't remember.

 

[Ikagura]

Wasn't it made with the legit source code? From that big N leak a few years back? Idk I don't remember.

Honestly if it was really using illegal code this would've been shut down already.

 

[Skeetos]

Honestly if it was really using illegal code this would've been shut down already.

I looked it up today. It's a decomp not made from real source code. I was trippin lol. It's been a while since I checked on it. It's really the best way outside of the XBLA version to play it.

 

[Ian Naxieas]

GoldenEye was my true introduction to FPS games. I had played the Duke Nukem 3D shareware version, but that wasn't a complete game so I won't count it. However, Perfect Dark is easily my favorite of the two. GoldenEye is a classic, but so is Perfect Dark and it improved on GoldenEye in most ways. The XBLA version of Perfect Dark is one of my favorite FPS games ever.

 

[Ikagura]

XBLA is better control wise but let's be honest:

The redesigns are most of the time awful. Elvis looks like a scary zombie in it.

 

[Ian Naxieas]

XBLA is better control wise but let's be honest:

The redesigns are most of the time awful. Elvis looks like a scary zombie in it.

Yeah, it's not perfect, but I'll take not having to use the abortion called the N64 controller and having a frame rate above 15 fps any day.

 

[Skeetos]

XBLA is better control wise but let's be honest:

The redesigns are most of the time awful. Elvis looks like a scary zombie in it.

I prefer the XBLA look. I'm speaking heresy of course but the og models are some of the ugliest models in gaming. Sorry, not sorry. Good for the time, horrible today.

 

[Ikagura]

Yeah, it's not perfect, but I'll take not having to use the abortion called the N64 controller and having a frame rate above 15 fps any day.

It's not that big of a deal to hold the middle and right parts.

Okay, the c-arrows aren't idea for strafing but that's why there are more than one option for controls.

15 FPS? The framerate is much more stable than Goldeneye and to be honest it only dips when there are explosions.

 

[Ian Naxieas]

It's not that big of a deal to hold the middle and right parts.

Okay, the c-arrows aren't idea for strafing but that's why there are more than one option for controls.

Oh, I know how to use an N64 controller, I've been playing it since it came out, I just don't like it. x) I will concede that it's better with FPS games than other genres though.

15 FPS? The framerate is much more stable than Goldeneye and to be honest it only dips when there are explosions.

Mmmm, I was being a bit unfair, but it's frame rate isn't as good as you remember it being.

 

[Toppis]

I played this on Xbox One, and I liked it because it has auto-aim