N64 old zelda, nostalgia is overrated and i hate this word

[Inferno_of_god]

i recently got into nintendo games and never had any nintendo console as a kid yet playing ocarina of time and majora's mask as an adult made me realize that these are genuinly good games that people reduce to childhood memories and nostalgia, even when i play games i played as a kid i dont feel nostalgic at all which makes me hate seeing this word or being discussed, i just dont get it as a concept.

 

[BrawlMan]

Everyone is different, and while I am nostalgic for certain games of old, I never blinded myself to try new things, nor reduced the good/bad to constant "precious, childhood, memories". Not too big of a Zelda fan myself, but since you enjoy these games, don't worry about the fools making fools of themselves. They're loud and seek attention. Ignore them, and you will be all the more happy for it.

 

[FlyingToaster]

I don't mind modern gaming but as technology got better we lost some of the magic that made playing videogames special imho

 

[Mopeybloke]

"Nostalgia" is often an empty accusation/red herring used to disqualify someone's opinion without meeting the burden of countering it, and also by some people who do not wish to justify their opinions and they just throw it in there when justification isn't necessary.

The actual concept of nostalgia describes something that actually exists, but as an argument it's fallacious almost every time.

 

[BrawlMan]

"Nostalgia" is often an empty accusation/red herring used to disqualify someone's opinion without meeting the burden of countering it, and also by some people who do not wish to justify their opinions and they just throw it in there when justification isn't necessary.

While true, there are just as many who use "nostalgia" as an excuse to hurt/look down upon anyone/anything that is different or modern. Neither are a good option, and both who do either can fuck off and get kicked in the groin with a steel toed boot.

 

[JPchicre]

Well, people are allowed to feel nostalgic to certain things. When I was a kid I played a lot of the ps1 game Scooby Doo Cyber Chase, revisiting it as an adult , the game was not, in my opinion, very good. But I still enjoy the memories I had of playing It. The memories were better than the game in fact. I disagree with your wording here BrawlMan

While true, there are just as many who use "nostalgia" as an excuse to hurt/look down upon anyone/anything that is different or modern.

But I Agree with the sentiment. I think lot of people are "passive" blinded by Nostalgia into dismissing Modern games advantages while overlooking retro games flaws;

 

[Mopeybloke]

While people may reject modern games due to their nostalgia, few people use it as an argument. They don't say "modern games don't appeal to my nostalgia, therefore they suck".

 

[BrawlMan]

But I Agree with the sentiment. I think lot of people are "passive" blinded by Nostalgia into dismissing Modern games advantages while overlooking retro games flaws;

Same difference and part of the equation. Though similar to you, there are games where I am not afraid to point out are either weren't as good as I remembered, or legit wasn't good to begin with.

They don't say "modern games don't appeal to my nostalgia, therefore they suck".

AHAAHAHAHAHA! Twitter and YouTube says otherwise with the grifters. Including the people who foolishly follow those echo chambers and parrots those opinions on a constant basis. Also, I've met plenty of idiots different forums who did used the excuse you just quoted.

 

[contrail_]

Same. I played Ocarina of Time on the N64 for the first time last year and it was a trip! (never owned an N64 growing up either) I also felt that ominous haunting sensation lingering throughout the entire game, just out of the player's sight. There's just something about this game that I hadn't felt in quite a while.
It's also no wonder it stuck with so many people throughout the years.
Ocarina of Time looks underwhelming on a LED tv, but on a CRT tv it comes to life. I suppose it's natural for people who just downloaded it and emulated it on their phone or on their pc to feel that it's overrated.

 

[SamanthaSamantha's icon]

A site I used when I was a child had this quote on the homepage... I think it's truer now than ever:

"There was a time when imagination made up for the lack of processing power".

 

[NeonKnights]

Same. I played Ocarina of Time on the N64 for the first time last year and it was a trip! (never owned an N64 growing up either) I also felt that ominous haunting sensation lingering throughout the entire game, just out of the player's sight. There's just something about this game that I hadn't felt in quite a while.
It's also no wonder it stuck with so many people throughout the years.
Ocarina of Time looks underwhelming on a LED tv, but on a CRT tv it comes to life. I suppose it's natural for people who just downloaded it and emulated it on their phone or on their pc to feel that it's overrated.

I find that anything from the fifth generation or earlier benefits from the dithering provided by an analog signal (E.g. Composite, S-Video or RGB via CRT), just be sure to use some good shielded cable.
If you are getting any interference, turn off anything major with a switching transformer. Also there are many good options to replicate this dithering effect on emulation, though the game will always feel more real to me on a CRT. Another good option would be a pre 2009 Plasma TV.

 

[beefbowl]

i just dont get it as a concept.

Aside that, yeah old Zelda games were good. They had hype surrounding them before release, they had great review score when they came out, made waves in gaming culture. That's why they are classics. People claiming we have rose-tinted glasses are just retarded.

 

[Sorion]

Modern games are often too safe, too affraid to do something risky that might make investors upset, that's why I still like retro games, my favorite retro games were often made to push hardware boundaries, try new ideas, or at the very least, they were trying to tell a good story, yes, even that has become a rare over the years, as game development cycles become longer and longer, it's harder to find narrative focused games, most big publishers are just trying to find the next fornite. I'm not even going to pretend that trend chasers didn't exist back then, but at the very least big publishers were competing to make the best games possible, the bar is so low right now that we're relying more and more in indie and AA devs to find creative experiences again.

 

[BrawlMan]

we're relying more and more in indie and AA devs to find creative experiences again.

Not a bad thing, and those games are modern, but are not afraid to try new ideas/concepts or make the old school experience better.

 

[TruxtonTatsujin]

 

[BrawlMan]

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I can see where the person's coming from, but they really need to work on their grammar and lack of comma placement.

 

[Tsukishima]

My two cents on nostalgia being used as a concept and a word that exists is an ironic parallel to the evolution of technology which reaped the innovation and creativity from the younger eras that our favourite retro games come from.

Technology improved, but people became more dishonest with their feelings. The most important thing when talking about the games you love isn't professionalism or catering to a specific group of people. It's to speak from your heart and let your emotions piledrive through and let the souls of other people connect with you in that way.

"Nostalgia" and other such phrases are an escape route on the lack of words or effort to truly describe how you feel with a video game, and that's my issue with reviewers. I hate how they prey upon people using the words "nostalgia" and other shallow and empty praises to either cut at, or praise a game.

I appreciate anyone's heartfelt speech about video games and other sorts that much more. That is what gets me to try a game.

 

[TentaclesMod]

First, these two are genuinely great games even now, just, technological advancement has eliminated some of the oomp.

I played them without Nostalgia: OoT is a classic grand adventure that does nothing wrong. Majora is flawed but an absolutely unique experience that stays with you.

Also, the Nostalgia is justified. Think of when these games came out, there was NOTHING like this, that felt so big and cinematic. Sure, there were many rpgs bigger, but those always felt abstracted in many ways, OoT felt way less abstracted. The dungeons felt grand, the boss battles epic, the combat cinematic yet fun. No one had experienced anything like that, is it any wonder it left such a mark?

 

[G.L.a.D.O.S.]

I don't have nostalgia for anything, really, music, movies, games, etc.
For example, as a kid, I liked the NES TMNT games. Now, I can't stand them, and honestly, They were good games for their time, but I don't view things with rose tinted glasses either.

A lot of things I liked as a kid I don't enjoy now. For instance, Mario Kart. I liked it when it was new, but it doesn't hold that wow factor for me anymore, just like Mario Party, Smash Bros., etc. If a game is genuinely good and engaging, it can stand on its own merits and entertainment value, not desperate pleas from the depths of someone's childhood to hold on to a magic that was never really there.

New games can be good, as well as old ones. I actually prefer the old NES RPGs over the current top tier titles, not because I liked them as a child, but simply because they were fun games. They weren't bogged down with useless side quests after side quests. And yes, I know some people might get out the pitchforks, but Zelda 1 and 2, Majora's Mask, and Ocarina of Time aren't the best of the old Zelda games. A Link to the Past actually is far better, and I didn't play it until 10 years ago. The others I played as a kid and teenager.

Mind you, I am not disputing their importance to gaming history either far from it. They aren't bad games, but they just aren't the "god-tier" games people make them out to be. But yes nostalgia is, as Rick James said a long ago "a helluva drug" and it does blind people.

 

[Mileena]

The feeling of nostalgia is good and bad, I love bringing myself back to a certain time in my life but then I’m sad I’m never going to have that experience again as it’s just a memory now.

Having said that, I evolve with life, things are going to change and you have to realize that generations are going to enjoy different things and a younger person’s idea of something great may not be yours just like something you think is great may not be theirs.