Objectively good and bad games

[Maresia]

Do you feel like these exist? I was thinking how everyone has different tastes and something that one person might enjoy, another person might not.

Knowing this, can you really evaluate a game and call it objectively good or bad? Maybe if a game is enjoyed by EVERY single person that plays it then it can be objectively good?

At most, maybe you could point out to things that could be called objectively good or bad in a game. For example technical details, like resolution, frame rate, sound quality. But even if you can qualify that, does this really affect your enjoyment of the game. A game can be horrible on a technical level, but you can play it and have a great time.

I guess the common ground for discussion would be to know the other's person taste and if they match, recommendations would be easier since you stand on similar grounds preference wise. Although you might like the same game for totally different reasons.

All of this can be a little reductive though, everything boils down to "I like this, therefore it's good". You could explain why you enjoy something and the other person may even get your point, but would that make the other person enjoy the same experience and make it good for the other person?

At this point I'm just rambling and not going anywhere lol. I would like what you think just for the heck of it.

 

[Boo Man]

personal opinion is all that matters
but that's just my personal opinion
and the only one that matters :)

 

[Felipe]

Nope, the opinion of each thing in life depends of each person's preference, something that may change with time or not.

 

[Graves Ruinwalker]

I think there are objectively bad and good games .

A good game is a game that promised what it features , have almost till no game-breaking bugs and is complete from the start .

The opposite would be a bad game .

But the subjectivity of it can even make a bad game into a good game and vice versa . While the wokeness is a topic that seems to be in games , its doesnt really make the game overall bad because you play the game and are up for its content that you accept or not . Thats the point of it.

Here is my objectively perfect example that abuse everytime for this special-moment in my life :
I love Daikatana ! I know its bad but i like what the game has and John Romero brought in the game really cool ideas and concepts that were sadly undercooked but are still awesome to see and play .
Im still waiting for Daikatana 2 and i know i wont see my best buddy superfly again in the grim and dark future before me .

There are bad games that are still beloved like Dong-Dong never dies and such . While i despise CP2077 , i dont wanna take the fun from others who likes the game . Is it objectively good ? No . But i can see that it makes fun for other at the end .

 

[here4outbreak]

i mean i would think that the idea of objectivity would come from many subjective viewpoints coming together to agree on what they do and dont like. like objectively good or bad probably falls under an appeal to popularity more than anything else.

the use of objectivity almost exclusively gets used as a cover for "what i think" but in wankier presentation in internet discussions so i get why this question would be asked with the way the term has been kind of bastardized.

 

[RestoredaftrLostv2]

I don't believe games are either good game or bad game(though I label them that), more just games i enjoyed playing, games I loved, and games that i tossed in the dumpster. I smashed my copy of Super Mario Sunshine. I really didn't like the game at all. Not the game disk, it was a copy so i could play it on a modded wii cause i couldn't get it too work for some reason. I donated that game and let someone else have it.

 

[Graw]

I feel like Tetris is an objectively good game. It's simple to learn, hard to master. There's not really many negative things that can be said about it. There's not really anything that could be changed that would be a major improvement to it. It's been proven to sell ridiculously well. It can and has been picked up and enjoyed by people who don't and haven't played any other video game in their life.

Obviously I'm sure there's people out there who would say the complete opposite to everything I just said but by and large, I'm sure most people tend to agree Tetris is at least decently fun and probably wouldn't say it's outright bad.

 

[ZEGA ZONIC]

Bad games can be good & good games can be bad.

 

[middler]

When I recommend games or movies to someone I always try to make 3 offerings: a "good" one, a "bad" one, and a "something different" one. I take it for granted that the assumption is that this is my personal perspective. Its why I make 3 suggestions. One man's trash and all that.

 

[Sorion]

I think a game is good by the merit of it's own good qualities in relation to other competing games available at the time of it's release, for example, a brand new shooter game might blow away most 20 year old games in terms of graphics and mechanics, but if that game can't distinct itself from the newer shooters released around the same time then the game is likely to sell poorly and quickly forgotten (this is what happened to Concord BTW).

 

[Zerohour2k12]

Just a matter of preference. If you are genuinely having fun and enjoying what others deem is bad, it's alright. To each his own.

 

[Evaccaneer Doom]

Do you feel like these exist? I was thinking how everyone has different tastes and something that one person might enjoy, another person might not.

Knowing this, can you really evaluate a game and call it objectively good or bad? Maybe if a game is enjoyed by EVERY single person that plays it then it can be objectively good?

At most, maybe you could point out to things that could be called objectively good or bad in a game. For example technical details, like resolution, frame rate, sound quality. But even if you can qualify that, does this really affect your enjoyment of the game. A game can be horrible on a technical level, but you can play it and have a great time.

I guess the common ground for discussion would be to know the other's person taste and if they match, recommendations would be easier since you stand on similar grounds preference wise. Although you might like the same game for totally different reasons.

All of this can be a little reductive though, everything boils down to "I like this, therefore it's good". You could explain why you enjoy something and the other person may even get your point, but would that make the other person enjoy the same experience and make it good for the other person?

At this point I'm just rambling and not going anywhere lol. I would like what you think just for the heck of it.

Of course they do

If they consistently get low scores on both audience and critics everywhere, it's objectively a bad game
If the opposite, it's objectively good

And I emphasise it's gotta be everywhere and both, IGN only is not gonna cut it. If you ever get critics to agree with the audience, this is how you truly know it's special.

 

[cjl8336 cjl8336]

if it plays like an unfinished proto or beta despite supposedly being finished, it's bad

 

[Maresia]

I think there are objectively bad and good games .

A good game is a game that promised what it features , have almost till no game-breaking bugs and is complete from the start .

The opposite would be a bad game .

But the subjectivity of it can even make a bad game into a good game and vice versa . While the wokeness is a topic that seems to be in games , its doesnt really make the game overall bad because you play the game and are up for its content that you accept or not . Thats the point of it.

Here is my objectively perfect example that abuse everytime for this special-moment in my life :
I love Daikatana ! I know its bad but i like what the game has and John Romero brought in the game really cool ideas and concepts that were sadly undercooked but are still awesome to see and play .
Im still waiting for Daikatana 2 and i know i wont see my best buddy superfly again in the grim and dark future before me .

There are bad games that are still beloved like Dong-Dong never dies and such . While i despise CP2077 , i dont wanna take the fun from others who likes the game . Is it objectively good ? No . But i can see that it makes fun for other at the end .

This is excatly what I'm taking about. I love my fair share of games that I know are in bad, but you can see the vision, what they tried to achive and that trumps over any technical shortcoming.

I guess everyone has a different tolerance to bad stuff as long as the game is cool for them.