Non-Gaming Hot Takes

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So! That Hot Takes thread in the General Gaming Discussion forum is pretty popular, eh? And I think it's safe to say that we all love and respect each other a little more after reading through it all! But, really, I'm more interested in your crazy opinions for stuff outside gaming – movies, TV shows, food, music, interpretive dance, what the F ever. So post your non-gaming hot takes here, and let our shared tolerance for one another's individual viewpoints flow!

And for the love of all that is good and holy, please refrain from posting anything political. We already know your opinion on it, I promise you.

I'll start:
  • I'm actually OK when an OP doesn't answer the thread question itself. I think it's better if OPs, in general, just stay focused on what the thread is about – there's plenty of time and space for the poster's own opinions later on, and it's best not to confuse things. It also makes it easier for people to react to the OP without passing comment on any personal opinions expressed in it, which is nice.
 
The fact that streaming services release entire seasons at once flat out hurts the products they are trying to deliver by eliminating all speculation and doing away with any possible curveballs before they can even be thrown. That's why so many otherwise promising shows get shelved after a season or two... the hype is lost to exhaustion.
 
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I'll start:
  • I'm actually OK when an OP doesn't answer the thread question itself. I think it's better if OPs, in general, just stay focused on what the thread is about – there's plenty of time and space for the poster's own opinions later on, and it's best not to confuse things. It also makes it easier for people to react to the OP without passing comment on any personal opinions expressed in it, which is nice.
Thank you. I fully agree here. You make a very valid point and I try doing the same if I’m the OverPowered. This is really humble and shows social awareness.

Now onto your question.

Now I’ll preface some stuff here: if anyone’s think these are not hot takes, please don’t yell at me. I promise you, I do not care. I’m just posting for fun.

Without further ado….
  1. I like all of Naruto. Not just the OG, not just pre-war, all of it. Naruto is one of my all time favorite tales in fiction.
  2. The entire Z mythos is well written. From Saiyan all the way to Buu Saga. All of dragon ball is well written. The manga is in my top 5 easily.
  3. Berserk is NOT impossible to adapt. The art is impossible to replicate in animation form, but that does NOT translate being impossible to adapt. Berserk Musou is a fantastic adaptation and is truly underrated.
  4. I like Ten more than Kaiji.
  5. Breaking Bad is not peak crime fiction. The Sopranos is better. Hell, both twin peaks and Atlanta have better writing. No, I do not care if they’re in different genres. This is still relevant because BB is NOT this flawless greatest fiction ever. I like Jesse, but he’s the only one I like.
  6. One Punch Man anime is a severely overrated adaptation and is by far the ultimate normie anime. Sorry, but I’ll gatekeep you if you only watch the anime. If you at least read the manga then good. If you read the webcomic though, we should kiss.
  7. Hokuto no Ken not needing a remake is a very overrated idea. Sorry, but HnK remake would be the PERFECT opportunity to make anime FAITHFUL TO THE MANGA. Sorry anime-onlies, I respect the manga more than I respect nostalgia.
  8. One Piece is my least favorite of the big three. Sorry American normies. (Also, you’re late to the party. Every other country loved One Piece before you did. Bunch of posers…)
  9. Neither Digimon Adventure and Tamers are in my top three. My top three are Savers, Evolution X and Ghost Game.
  10. Pokémon anime… is not bad.
Thank you Gorse the Horse for making this thread. Not only do I have more non gaming hot takes than gaming ones, but you given me amp opportunity to make enemies out of everyone I’ve ever met. This is likely my final post here. So have fun screaming at the clouds! And no one should send hitmen after me. They all failed. I’m unkillable. MUWAHAHAHA.
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Half related to games?

the castlevania show is horseshit past season 2, and even then I hate how they turned Isaac into basically the writer's oc, why even call him isaac if it's a completly different character?? Now he's always gonna be there polluting my search results ugh
Why are western writers so utterly incapable of makinga faithful adaptation? Do they think they're above it? I've watched the arknights cartoon and it's beat by bit the story of the game like all asian adaptations, it's not impossible to do ffs
 
Why are western writers so utterly incapable of makinga faithful adaptation? Do they think they're above it?
Absolutely. Because “games aren’t deep”, so the adaptation “needs to expand on the ‘barebones’ story”. Yankees are silly lol.
 
The fact that streaming services release entire seasons at once flat out hurts the products they are trying to deliver by eliminating all speculation and doing away with any possible curveballs before they can even be thrown. That's why so many otherwise promising shows get shelved after a season or two... the hype is lost to exhaustion.
Waffles you old bean, I couldn't agree with you more. Spacing out each episode gives the viewer time to ruminate on what they've watched, and to grow long-term affection for the storylines and characters. When one of those dumb Netflix shows drops a season, people massively talk about it for a few days after it comes out, then immediately forget everything until the next season comes out the following year (or the show just gets cancelled). Scheduled programming just suits TV – at least, non-prestige TV – better.
 
Waffles you old bean, I couldn't agree with you more. Spacing out each episode gives the viewer time to ruminate on what they've watched, and to grow long-term affection for the storylines and characters. When one of those dumb Netflix shows drops a season, people massively talk about it for a few days after it comes out, then immediately forget everything until the next season comes out the following year (or the show just gets cancelled). Scheduled programming just suits TV – at least, non-prestige TV – better.
Yeah! It's also utter hell getting online after the season's release because you just know that some maniac has already watched it all on day 1 and is belt-feeding the spoiler machine gun.
 
Classical music is nice, but it does not beat symphonic orchestra ballets and operas from the first half of the 20th century. I guess it's a really superficial observation. Where classical requires your full attention to really appreciate it, more modern compositions impose themselves. Still, I stand by it.
 
I hate this brand of smug "I'm a nerd who looks like a slob, but I'm not one of those cringe loser nerds mhuhehe *snort*"


Also no you didn't, you made a comic book
 
I hate this brand of smug "I'm a nerd who looks like a slob, but I'm not one of those cringe loser nerds mhuhehe *snort*"


Also no you didn't, you made a comic book
Yeah. Same people who take pride in not taking a shower lol.
 
I'm not sure how much of a hot take is is, but I absolutely dislike cross media adaptations that create content out of thin air: characters that didn't originally exist, characterization changes, what have you.

If you must reinterpret something to fit a different creative vision (or, more likely, shareholder pressure), please make it a sidestory of some sort.

Of course, my opinion isn't going to change trends, so my form of protest is simply not watching/reading such adaptations.
 
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Rear Window is Alfred Hitchcock's best movie. (Yes, more than Vertigo or Psycho)
 
I'm not sure how much of a hot take is is, but I absolutely dislike cross media adaptations that create content out of thin air: characters that didn't originally exist, characterization changes, what have you.

If you must reinterpret something to fit a different creative vision (or, more likely, shareholder pressure), please make it a sidestory of some sort.

Of course, my opinion isn't going to change trends, so my form of protest is simply not watching/reading such adaptations.
What do you mean you don’t like Blood, the long lost older cousin of Guts, who wields two dragonslayer swords, wears two layers of armor, has never been mentioned before and shows up to tell guts he sucks at Tetris and then leaves and never shows up again? He’s the coolest character!
 
I enjoyed the Twilight books. The movies are pretty bad, though.
Stephenie Meyer's prose isn't quite there and some other things are also severely lacking, but whenever I read the books I get transported into this little town, hidden between trees, and I just get nostalgic. I relate to Bella to a great extent, considering I also grew up in a small town, divorce, dad stayed, I left with my mom and then her new bf, never had any friends, etc., etc.. I know that this isn't really unique, but it does speak to me.

And I'm a sucker for unconditional love stories. Sue me. TEAM EDWARD!!!
 
What do you mean you don’t like Blood, the long lost older cousin of Guts, who wields two dragonslayer swords, wears two layers of armor, has never been mentioned before and shows up to tell guts he sucks at Tetris and then leaves and never shows up again? He’s the coolest character!
Buraado Gaiden - Tetris Hen.

I enjoyed the Twilight books. The movies are pretty bad, though.
Stephenie Meyer's prose isn't quite there and some other things are also severely lacking, but whenever I read the books I get transported into this little town, hidden between trees, and I just get nostalgic. Further, I relate to Bella to a great extent, considering I also grew up in a small town, divorce, dad stayed, I left with my mom and then her new bf, never had any friends, etc., etc.. I know that this isn't really unique, but it does speak to me.

And I'm a sucker for unconditional love stories. Sue me. TEAM EDWARD!!!
Truly, everyone wishes for unconditional love, I agree.
 
Why are western writers so utterly incapable of makinga faithful adaptation? Do they think they're above it? I've watched the arknights cartoon and it's beat by bit the story of the game like all asian adaptations, it's not impossible to do ffs
Saying "all Asian adaptations" is generous, considering how frequently we get manga to anime adaptations that people deem unworthy (@Yousef mentions multiple examples in their first comment).

While I won't speak to why unfaithful adaptations exist, I'll say that I'd vastly prefer a unique adaptation than something beat for beat. If I like the source material, I don't just want it chewed up and spit back out at me in a new form solely to appease some nothing that things need to be the exact same to be faithful. I want new interpretations on characters, I want to see something that feels authentic to the source material but takes liberties and shows me something fresh within an existing space. In a similar way to how comics spin their characters off into dozens of different runs that give new looks or interpretations to aspects of these worlds, I want cross media adaptations to do the same.

Of course, that comes with people debating on a case-by-case basis if something is authentic enough to the original to justify its differences, but that's ok. I'd rather have those discussions and have some people be disappointed by a new interpretation than just have the same thing but in a new type of media. That's worthless to me, I just won't care.

I'm glad that things like the live action Sonic movies are a brand-new spin on the series and characters even if I have issues with certain reinterpretations. I'm glad that The Lord of the Rings took liberties where it deemed necessary both to save time and to introduce some new elements throughout the trilogy. Sure, it didn't work out with The Hobbit, but that is clearly for a bevy of external reasons regarding studio meddling than anything. Controversial as the franchise may be, Harry Potter also benefitted greatly from taking several liberties with the movies. It cut out so much of Rowling's hack writing and shit worldbuilding that it managed to make something that in most people's eyes elevated the source material.

If someone doesn't want an adaptation to change anything, they just shouldn't adapt it in the first place. If it's fine as is then why bother when you could make something new?

I can't speak to Castlevania itself because I loved the first two seasons and then stopped watching. Not for any real reason and I've definitely intended to go back and finish it at some point but for now it just isn't high on my priority list. Maybe it will be an example of a bad adaptation in my eyes once I see seasons 3 and 4, but when season 1 and 2 already take their liberties with tone and such I don't think the issue is a lack of pure faithfulness to the source material but rather just bad writing in general.

The Halo TV show comes to mind for me, because in a vacuum I think *almost* all of its ideas are solid ideas for a reinterpretation of the series and from a presentational perspective it nails Halo's vibe more often than it doesn't. The problem is that the pacing and writing couldn't execute on those ideas.

In any case, maybe this counts as my first hot take in this thread, but I don't think a pure adaptation is good, because if you're gonna stick a talented team on a project for however long it takes to finish all so they can just regurgitate something we already have then that's just opportunity cost. I feel the same about remakes even when the remake in question is brilliant. It kind of strikes at the heart of most adaptations in that I just don't really care for them because the headaches surrounding people endlessly getting upset over something being canon/non-canon or faithful/non-faithful is exhausting. In an age where damn near all we get are remakes and adaptations, it's the same conversation every other day. I'll take a bad adaptation over a faithful one almost any day though because at least the bad one is interesting to talk about and had something new to say.
 
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Zeta Gundam is horrible and the only saving grave is Commander Bright, Char being a good boy and Amuro Ray. I dont like ZZ Gundam either
Me either. Z and ZZ together feel like a long, drawn out self iterative retread of one another save for some differences.
 
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