Mega Man Megathread

[Dyne]

pattern recognition/memorization is not bad game design.
That is subjective.

Theres a ton of games, especially older arcade games, that revolve around this gameplay.

But you're entitled to your preferences

 

[KaiserMk7]

pattern recognition/memorization is not bad game design.
That is subjective.

Theres a ton of games, especially older arcade games, that revolve around this gameplay.

But you're entitled to your preferences

Ability to learn to intuit patterns in a low-risk environment is a plus.

 

[JG5009]

Memorization in my opinion only becomes annoying when to be able to try again the difficult part that kicked your butt you must go through a entire horrible level with too many cheap deaths, but it does make you memorize the level.

And I don't think that the yellow devil is the worst part of MM1 since there are worse things in there.
(I feel bad for the many that still try MM1 as their first experience because it's the original one)

 

[Ikagura]

Whether it's hard or not is not the point. The point is that rote memorization isn't fun for most people and is a bad game design.

Fun is subjective. Memorizing every moves of every characters in a fighting game is part of the training.

Bad game design because it's challenging? Just try harder then. Dark Souls is entirely based on memorizing the level layout, enemy placement and boss patterns and is a masterclass of game design.

 

[ThunderBoy]

 

[Ikagura]

Come to think about it, two shades of blue was a good idea for visibility.

But his face looks like an emoji.

Also I heard that his face is a separate sprite to support a palette of over 4 colours so basically the game was being handicapped of having a 6 sprite limit for enemies instead of 7 (counting the player character as the 8th).

Furthermore, the final bosses being a background layer was a smart trick to offer a gigantic sprite (for the cost of having a black background).

I think Konami used a similar technique for bosses like the Technodrome in TMNT NES.

 

[KaiserMk7]

Fun is subjective. Memorizing every moves of every characters in a fighting game is part of the training.

Bad game design because it's challenging? Just try harder then. Dark Souls is entirely based on memorizing the level layout, enemy placement and boss patterns and is a masterclass of game design.

I mean a good chunk of the Dark Souls challenge is also designed to be intuited. Animations to roughly convey to you what's the enemy will do, subtle signs of earlier tragic ends and obvious trapped objects in the scenery/texturing, the mimic dormant animation once you realize they exist. Caution and observation are rewarded a lot. One might develop a habit of scanning for ambushes at every bottleneck.

 

[fake-chan]

Hot take: The original concept of Blade Man as a swordsman with actual hands rips ass and is way better than his final design.

Another hot take: Mega Man bosses are incredibly boring and kind of just there, with a few exceptions (Mecha Dragon in 2, Sunstar in W5, all bosses in MM&B, Omega in MMZ3 and MMZX).

 

[Tonberry]

Another hot take: Mega Man bosses are incredibly boring and kind of just there, with a few exceptions (Mecha Dragon in 2, Sunstar in W5, all bosses in MM&B).

I always thought it was a really good and super strong concept how the stages also were kind of part of the bosses’ identities themselves because they’re always so themed. Makes them kind of a three-parter kinda deal (stage, boss, music, maybe even four due to the powers you get) with so much personality, and I feel like very few games have done it as well as MM.

 

[Ikagura]

I just remembered that Grim Matchstick from Cuphead was a nice hommage to that Mecha Dragon in MM2:

 

[Megarockman _1987 Megarockman _1987]

Hi everyone, i am a mega man fan too.
O like so much the X saga.
Please chat with me

 

[fake-chan]

Hi everyone, i am a mega man fan too.
O like so much the X saga.
Please chat with me

I noticed that a lot of Latin American Mega Man fans refer to the subseries as "sagas." Why is that?

 

[Ikagura]

I remember that sometimes narrative arcs in shonens are called "sagas" as well as video game series.

I guess it's another way of naming a following narrative story of a set piece.

 

[Megarockman _1987 Megarockman _1987]

I noticed that a lot of Latin American Mega Man fans refer to the subseries as "sagas." Why is that?

It could be because each subseries has a different protagonist, and "sagas" is a synonym for subseries in Spanish.
PS: Hi, nice to meet you. I hope you ando me can talk more. I'm new to this forum, haha.

 

[KaiserMk7]

I remember that sometimes narrative arcs in shonens are called "sagas" as well as video game series.

I guess it's another way of naming a following narrative story of a set piece.

Specifically major arcs that encompass many smaller arcs that form a greater conflict.

 

[Ikagura]

It could be because each subseries has a different protagonist, and "sagas" is a synonym for subseries in Spanish.
PS: Hi, nice to meet you. I hope you ando me can talk more. I'm new to this forum, haha.

I was used to people saying something like "the Namek/Freezer saga" in DBZ. I've learnt about Arc a bit later.

Specifically major arcs that encompass many smaller arcs that form a greater conflict.

I see, a Saga may be composed of arcs.

I could say the Prime saga instead of the Prime subseries for Metroid.


Back to Megaman I see that Classic and X are probably the two major ones whereas MMZ/MMZX is a semi sequel and Rockman.Exe/Battle Network and Starforce are spinoffs.

 

[fake-chan]

I was used to people saying something like "the Namek/Freezer saga" in DBZ. I've learnt about Arc a bit later.


I see, a Saga may be composed of arcs.

I could say the Prime saga instead of the Prime subseries for Metroid.


Back to Megaman I see that Classic and X are probably the two major ones whereas MMZ/MMZX is a semi sequel and Rockman.Exe/Battle Network and Starforce are spinoffs.

BN and SF are really, really not spin-offs. Not only are they set in their own universe, they don't even share gameplay style with the rest of the franchise.

 

[MasterEn]

BN and SF are really, really not spin-offs. Not only are they set in their own universe, they don't even share gameplay style with the rest of the franchise.

didn't you post a timeline pic that showed that it is the same universe, it only differed because dr light chose to do more internet related stuff in the battle network timeline instead of robot stuff?

 

[KaiserMk7]

didn't you post a timeline pic that showed that it is the same universe, it only differed because dr light chose to do more internet related stuff in the battle network timeline instead of robot stuff?

Not Light specifically, necessarily. It's the general direction human technological advancement went, because one doctor's vision was chosen over the other's.

 

[fake-chan]

didn't you post a timeline pic that showed that it is the same universe, it only differed because dr light chose to do more internet related stuff in the battle network timeline instead of robot stuff?

That picture was my personal HC, and it was so long ago that I've forgotten all about it.

 

[MasterEn]

That picture was my personal HC, and it was so long ago that I've forgotten all about it.

huh. i though it was canon.

 

[solnK!]

Hi everyone, i am a mega man fan too.
O like so much the X saga.
Please chat with me

Hi!, what is your favourite game from the X saga?

 

[Megarockman _1987 Megarockman _1987]

Hi!, what is your favourite game from the X saga?

Hi !!!, my favorite MegaMan x game is X2, X4 and X8
But, I prefer X8 over the rest

 

[solnK!]

Hi !!!, my favorite MegaMan x game is X2, X4 and X8
But, I prefer X8 over the rest

Great, I still need to play X8

 

[Megarockman _1987 Megarockman _1987]

Great, I still need to play X8

Play it now!!!
Although I haven't been able to complete it yet, lol