Master System Let's talk about Sega Master System games

[bcdusk]

they didn't

Eh that's debatable, just like people were wiling to go in debt to buy a Nes, they would have been willing to go in debt for their childrens education because "computers are the future".

A computer you can just plug in your TV and use?

It could have happened.

At least it is more likely that Atari learing basic math.

How can you not know you cannot sell more game units of a single game that consoles sold to consumers that can play said game?

Yeah that is the Atari you somehow think was going to do a big comeback, when the previous Atari console was selling so cheap it was insane.

Yeah that same Atari.

 

[PhaseJump]

Eh that's debatable, just like people were wiling to go in debt to buy a Nes, they would have been willing to go in debt for their childrens education because "computers are the future".

A computer you can just plug in your TV and use?

It could have happened.

At least it is more likely that Atari learing basic math.

How can you not know you cannot sell more game units of a single game that consoles sold to consumers that can play said game?

Yeah that is the Atari you somehow think was going to do a big comeback, when the previous Atari console was selling so cheap it was insane.

Yeah that same Atari.

Firstly, Jack Tramiel bought the company and name after the crash. It was literally not the same Atari that oversupplied games for 2600 consoles. Secondly, 2600 was outright cloned and the games ran other consoles they didn't even make so the original projections that drove them under were a bad gamble that they lost, but only in hindsight. They also worked on the first backwards compatible next-gen machine.

You are shitting on Atari for mistakes, oblivious to the point that they went under and somebody else took their name, the former exec who created Commodore. He inherited a complete game console ready to go with the 7800, but his own problems brought a lack of support to get the thing launched with a decent sound chip.

People didn't typically go into debt to buy toy products they couldn't afford in the 80s. Credit cards weren't exactly common. The toy mania around NES launch invited some scalping, but people back then weren't insanely over leveraged like they are today, and certainly didn't give a shit about video games enough to go into debt for them specifically. Computers could have been a different story, but they weren't. They cost a fortune by comparison, people didn't adopt them widely in the home until the 90s.

You sound like somebody who wasn't around back then, making assumptions based on bullshit stories from the internet.

 

[petran79]

Computers could have been a different story, but they weren't. They cost a fortune by comparison, people didn't adopt them widely in the home until the 90s.

You sound like somebody who wasn't around back then, making assumptions based on bullshit stories from the internet.

Computers were more popular in Europe for games, but even relatively cheaper computers (cheaper when compared to business pcs like IBM clones and Apple) like the Amstrad and Spectrum, were worth an month's average salary at least in the 80s.
kids were better off in arcades or game and watch type consoles.

Still the Amiga 500 in late 80s in Germany outsold by a small margin the Sega Mega Drive (around 1 million units for both) as Germany had its own Amiga assembly plant and an A500 and 2000 German variant, thus reducing costs.

 

[bcdusk]

It was basically the same Atari, different owner or not.

Yes I don't live in the USA and I am also not someone who was born in the seventies.

The Atari was that thing some kids my age had got from their older brothers. I was the kid with a Master System when everyone had a Nes clone.

Didn't even knew there was different Atari models until the 2010s.

Still the number.of Atari fuck ups no matter who owns it, is legendary.

What I find it hilarious is this, Atari lost badly by walking away from their deal with Nintendo, then some years later Nintendo doomed themselves to lose to Sony by walking away from their deal with them.

Sega fuck ups go from undertable, bad ports ruined the Sega Genesis reputation at launch in Japan, to WTF they were doing, launching the 32x when the Sega CD sales had not been that good to start with and the Saturn was literaly months away.

Now back to the Master System, coolest fake gun, WTF with the pause button being next to the reset button?

 

[PhaseJump]

The Atari fuckups aren't as huge as you make them out to be, but if you believe in that bullshit then it would explain why you sound like you don't know what you're talking about.

The point I see here is you are shitting on them as being totally unable to take back the market they were still relevant in the mid-late 80s. More relevant than Sega, which was arguably getting it's ass kicked by the relaunched Atari 2600jr, in a hypothetical absence of the NES. You claim that computers would have taken off for gaming and parents would have went into debt for them against any rational convention, if knowing the way things were back then in general. It didn't happen, and it probably wouldn't have happened considering Atari's console was still around with games on shelves up until the 90s.

If they launched the 7800 as intended with the POKEY, they would have had arcade games in the home for 84/85 and the market would have rebounded from the crash by buying the next gen box with the better graphics/sound. The NES would have been in for a fight. If NES didn't show up and computers did take off and replace consoles, Atari was still the "gaming brand" 2nd option, competitive with the C64 in the computer market, before and after a totally different computer company took over their brand and products.

One way or the other, Atari would have been there. They mattered more than Sega in North America until the Genesis launched, even still up until late 90 when Sega found it's footing. Nintendo owned it all.