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Message: [QUOTE="Leifang, post: 15193, member: 5746"] Yeah a lot of games used to do it, but Fallout and Infinity Engine had a more unusual projection that didn't put buildings at right angles, I looked up "Baldur's Gate projection" and all I got were discussions of BG3 camera, but googling "what projection Fallout uses" led me to this interesting post: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/dkxcpq/the_classic_fallout_games_are_not_isometric/[/URL] IIRC Disciples 1 & 2 were fully isometric and the way the did hills and plateaus is by having cliff edge tiles that make it LOOK like it's going up or down, it was a lifesaver on some old engines that couldn't do real elevation. [ATTACH type="full" size="640x480"]4400[/ATTACH] See the cliffs and waterfalls on screenshot? It makes it look like flags are going up a slope, but the land is fully flat, it's an optical illusion, I noticed that when I was messing with level editor and the cliffsides were just tilesets with transparent edges placed on top. I think bird's eye front view games used similar techniques, but this topic is about pseudo-3D and basically all strategy games except Total War used it for a long time because computers weren't powerful enough to render a lot of units in 3D well, Warcraft 3's full 3D graphics were the exception. [/QUOTE]

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