Is the Nintendo Switch 2 a fail?

[DjQuick2008]

Heard the screen on the switch 2 isnt that good. A lot of people are getting rid of them already.

 

[Leo-Dash]

It's still too early to say for sure!

Apparently the new Joycon still Drift too

 

[DEH]

I don’t think the Nintendo Switch 2 is a fail. Of course, at the beginning everything is a bit hectic and people are as they are never satisfied but with time everything will calm down and things will get better.

 

[MajesticSiN]

With the numbers it has sold I doubt it would be considered that.

 

[destinyduelist]

It's still too early to say for sure!

Apparently the new Joycon still Drift too

This is because the Switch 2 Joycons are identical to the Switch 1 Joycons in hardware build. They look larger but underneath the plastic it's the same identical 1:1 build.

 

[Morgana Veil]

It's just trolls and Nintendo haters saying it's a fail or it's a shock headline BS most of the time. And I use this word very loosely Journalists trying to get clicks with headlines like "Nintendo's new console batteries causing erectile dysfunction" or some other such nonsense.

I'm not an avid Nintendo fan or any brand for that matter, but the Switch 2 will sell fine. It will make back, if it hasn't already the money Nintendo put into it and then ten times over. And six or so years from now, the Switch 3 or whatever asinine name they decide to give it will come out.

There will always be some problem like the stated Joy-Con drift with a new console. Hell, look at the first run of PS3 and 360s, RROD and YLOD they got fixed. So, is the Switch 2 a fail? Not even in the slightest.

 

[Stingy Perry Stingy Perry]

A lot of people already owned a Switch so why call it a failure?

 

[Ikagura Ikagura]

Some people could unironically claim the Wii was a failure because it was mostly casual gamers that bought it.

 

[Frickinfrik]

Some people could unironically claim the Wii was a failure because it was mostly casual gamers that bought it.

Or the amount of shovelware on it.

 

[Faust03]

the first switch most certainly wasn't a failure, no idea about the second one

 

[Don Patch]

I've not read or seen any of that, lol.

Screen looks dandy and I know of several peeps who have and use the joycons pretty constantly (myself included) and 0% drift.

On the screen, I've seen it side-by-side with a Steamdeck (which is also pretty rad, btw) and yeah, it looks pretty good.

Also coincidentally been to a few used game stores as of this week; no switch 2 anything, lol.

 

[Morgana Veil]

It'll have some new games, mostly top-selling IPs like Mario, Zelda, etc., and a bunch of rehashed 2 and 3 generation old upscaled games for nostalgia, so you can play the old games on the go. We are happy to re-sell them to you because you can't use those games on your new system due to some convoluted technical reason we just came up with on the fly. Open your heart and wallet to Nintendo.

Mostly your wallet.

 

[Geocide]

Heard the screen on the switch 2 isnt that good. A lot of people are getting rid of them already.

The problem here is that we are still in the very early days of the Switch 2. Even the original Switch had teething issues when first released back in 2017. The first 1-2 years of a console (now-a-days) is never a truly proper indicator of where it will go.

We are not going to see if the Switch2 is a success or failure until a few years down the road. People getting rid of their Switch2s already is not uncommon. This always happens with each new console release.

As an aside, and a little off-topic but still relevant to the discussion: let's mention the Playstation 5. Supposedly, the pissnickel has some pretty insane sales numbers (currently over 60 million console sales), yet due to the complete lack of any exclusives on it, software sales are absolutely atrocious when in comparison to the amount of people who actually supposedly own a pissnickel. Stellar Blade wouldn't have been ported to PC at all if Soyny felt that it sold enough on the console to keep it as an exclusive. But I'm digressing.

My point with my digression above is that the Switch2's console sales numbers will mean absolutely nothing if the software sales and variety of software is atrociously low. The fact that Nintendo thought it was brilliant to release a console with one of the lowest amount of day one software available really shows that the business suits and MBAs that currently run Nintendo are smoothbrain retards (as all business suits and MBAs are).

Software is king. This is why portable handheld PCs are really starting to dominate the market, especially with what the Steam Deck has been able to prove. And let's be honest here: the Switch2 is a direct competitor to the Steam Deck, ROG Ally, Lenovo Legion, and any other PC handheld. As long as the Switch2 doesn't have exclusives, the Switch2 does not have the edge anymore when it comes to portable gaming, especially considering the updated SD OLED models having better battery life.

Nintendo thought they could be successful staying where they were with the Switch2 basically being a refresh of the Switch with only a few minor tweaks. And this would've worked 3 years ago. But now we live in the age where handheld PCs and Steam are not only actually viable, but people are migrating to such systems en masse due to the cost:performance ratio.

Hopefully Nintendo will get their heads out of their business suit MBA assholes, but I don't expect anything from them anymore. This is what happens when an entertainment company is ran by people who know absolutely nothing about and don't touch or interact with their own fucking products.

 

[bubbyrude]

i got one. it's pretty good. it's not an oled screen but it's 1080p 120hz. i like the new joycons ability to pop in and out, heft of the console is good too. of course i'm worried being an early adopter about things like drift and i've heard some people got bulging batteries pretty quickly but the improvement in performance is satisfying, getting a lot out of my old games. i didn't even wanna touch monster hunter stories 2 with the performance i was getting before.

i'm in canada though and the $115 msrp on some physical games is mind boggling.

it's also my new dedicated Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel device, since it finally runs well. I don't really enjoy playing it on PC, it very often seems to have severe connection issues on PS5, and my phone is out of the picture due to the performance, so switch 2 managed to hit the sweet spot for what i'm looking for.

 

[Boscobilly]

It's not a failure. The screen is a downgrade from the oled switch (oled will always be better than lcd) but its not that bad. It's certainly better than the original Switch's screen. I play mostly docked anyways so it doesn't matter much to me.

 

[NeonKnights]

Of course they didn't fix the drift, that way they get to sell more Joycon, as plebs are going to buy more as soon as the drift gets bad enough. I fixed mine myself with a piece of cardboard.

 

[Leo-Dash]

This is because the Switch 2 Joycons are identical to the Switch 1 Joycons in hardware build. They look larger but underneath the plastic it's the same identical 1:1 build.

So in the end, here we go again!

 

[Dyne]

I heard the screen has slight ghosting that will only be noticed by tech reviewers who specifically scrutinize such things or players who REALLY look for it.

If the joycons do end up having drift (way too early to tell, imo) then thats hilarious and sad.
But I'm just going to end up using my Gamesir G8+ for handheld mode anyway like I do my Switch 1, so whatever.

At this point it seems like there is a fairly large group of haters that just want Nintendo to fail. Which is sad. I understand being unhappy with certain decisions -- but I don't think they deserve to fail after all they've done for video gaming.

 

[DjQuick2008]

i own a switch OLED and would really need the hardware to test it myself like anything its early days and other versions of this console will emerge.

 

[TamagotchiTamaHero24's icon TamagotchiTamaHero24 TamagotchiTamaHero24]

It won’t fail, sad to say. This is just the struggles of early hardware models and releases. The Switch 1 launch carried many of the same issues (screens getting scratched by the dock, dying randomly, batteries going bad within days, I even remember one catching fire), and most of those issues were ironed out. I’m more interested in the issues that crop up with this first system model about a year and a half from now (drift and such), because those will be the actual problems to criticize over.

It had been my hope that people could, in some way, put some pressure on Nintendo to remind them that they need us more than we need them, but that didn’t happen. And sadly won’t going by how immediately ubiquitous the system has become, and it’s people’s fault for spreading the idea of the Switch 2 around so fast and so hard that it’s become “the tech thing to get”. Just like the Wii was. Just like the PS5 was. Just like most successful video game console launches, it got the hype it needed to succeed. It’s a shame: all the greedy and predatory decisions Nintendo made with this system were all things they did because they knew they’d get away with it.


The biggest tragedy: they were right. They can get away with it. And that sucks.

(Got to play on one from my friend who got it very soon after launch. Good mold and build quality. Seems neat, but I have life in my Switch 1 yet and many other systems that I have a much stronger attachment to. I’m not interested in playing Nintendo’s rigged game right now, thank you very much.)

 

[Waffles's iconWaffles]

I don't think it will be a COMMERCIAL failure, but I honestly haven't experienced people loving a Nintendo machine since the SNES... It has been an onslaught of weird experiments that people largely resented since -- from keeping cartridges to "save loading times", to aggressively pushing mini-discs to "curb piracy"; to releasing a fucking iPad and naming it after their lonely win of recent years. It has been a bloody road we have been on for a really long while now.

 

[Yousef]

It was a real switcharoo.

 

[Matricks]

I bought a new MSI Claw 135H for $350 instead Switch2, am I SmartIQ?
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[job32]

The first switch library isn't that impressive. Some decent stuff but few and far between. Unless they up their game they may fall behind other companies.

 

[Leon]

Heard the screen on the switch 2 isnt that good. A lot of people are getting rid of them already.

With the numbers it has sold I doubt it would be considered that.

Whether it's a failure is highly based on what you consider a failure since nintendo will never admit it if it is, from what i've seen since launch though the switch 2 is not doing as well as i was expecting and the launch itself has been a unmitigated disaster with bugs and issues all over the place, not to mention nintendo bricking switch 2's if it defects anything nintendo doesn't like.

What can be said for sure is that so far, the switch 2 third party game sales have been arguably the worst in the company's history, likely due to the key card fiasco, so the switch 2's third party support may dry up real fast if things don't change.

As for the screen, the screen has a worse response time than even the switch 1's lcd, this means alot of fast paced games have tons of smearing and ghosting, add to that nintendo seems to be doing everything it can to make people hate mario kart world and if things don't change the nintendo switch 2 will likely end up as another wii-u just with more console sales, remember, the wii though successful for nintendo, was effectively a failure in alot of ways due to terrible third party sales, nintendo NEEDS third party's to sell on the switch 2, if they cannot fix the situation with third parties, the switch 2 will still in the long run be a failure in comparison to the switch 1, even if it outsells the wii or switch 1, game sales are what make the console maker the most money, this is why the ps5, which has sold close to 80m units, is not doing too well because, after all of that, game sales on the console have been well below expectations.