Is Linux faster than windows?

[happymasksalesman]

What went wrong when you tried to use lua with windows? The process of using lua in windows and Linux is pretty much the same.

Can you explain this one? It's not very good for this. A good example would be Neverwinter Nights. I bought it thinking I would get to use the Aurora toolset to make campaigns. I couldn't get the Aurora toolkit to run with wine or proton. This was a few years ago so maybe it works now but I'd say overall almost any gaming related thing will be harder with Linux.

This is true.

I also agree with this. I switched to Linux over 10 years ago when windows randomly decided to kill the master boot record on my harddrive one day. I installed a light Ubuntu distro partitioned across a bunch of usb flash drives and was able to go in and rescue the harddrive. I wiped windows, installed Linux onto the harddrive and never looked back.

about Lua, I tried it with command prompt and guide to install from file itself. For some reason some files doesn't exist in tar! It freak me out and as I didn't have much time i choose to retry it later.
About modding I think it can be use to change main codes to add more stuff in old games.
For new one I think fanmade (except ds2 it must hard game to mod)
Modding tool is good which work for game itself.

 

[Goshikk]

LOTS of posts have already been made and I don't feel like reading all of them, so I apologize if I'm repeating someone else's words.

Windows is a shitshow for reasons we all know too well, but Linux is even worse. Nothing works out of the box, installing software is hell if you don't know how to use the terminal and it's just jank in general.

Linux is awesome, it's free in both ways and if you know what you're doing you're gonna feel much closer to your computer than if you use the CIA spyware that Microshit and Crapple put out. But I shan't sugar coat the truth, anything that works in a single click on windows WILL give you a headcahe in Linux.

 

[Graw]

about Lua, I tried it with command prompt and guide to install from file itself. For some reason some files doesn't exist in tar!

Did you try installing it from one of the binaries?

Lua Binaries

luabinaries.sourceforge.net

About modding I think it can be use to change main codes to add more stuff in old games.

This is equally possible with windows. Setting up a development environment on Linux can actually be a bit of a headache sometimes because of the way dependencies work on Linux. I have definitely run into situations where I've just been unable to build something without a massive amount of fucking around because the version of a library that's in my distro's software repository is a different version than the one the software uses and having both versions side by side causes problems.

For new one I think fanmade (except ds2 it must hard game to mod)
Modding tool is good which work for game itself

Honestly, a lot of modding tools are windows specific even for games with Linux builds. I attempted to get into some super metroid hacking years ago and I ended up having to setup a virtual windows install because I couldn't get any of the tools working. As much as I hate windows, if you want to mod games I'd recommend sticking with windows.

 

[diapered]

I agree with you Mint is a good starting point. I would also recommend Pop_OS! or Manjaro for people who don't want to use the command line and are learning Linux.

Manjaro is definitely the top beginner distro in my experience (I disagree with mint, see below). Pamac is hands down the best looking, robust and simple software/update manager on any linux distribution (not recommended to use on another arch distro, it's made for manjaro!). Say what you want about the manjaro team, but they did a fabulous job developing it and making sure it works flawlessly with their distro.

To determine a distro's ease of use, I like to give it the "retroarch test": does retroarch work OTB when installed with the software manager? Manjaro passes this EVERY time I have installed it on a system. You install the cores and it works no problems! Of course, not all games will work great on all cores (we all know which cores are not great and a standalone emulator should be used...), but it WORKS with no effort is my point. Garuda also passes this "test" (my current distro, but not for beginners, it's easy and I like it, but you should be a little familiar with linux).

Now for linux mint... I do not think mint is a good starting point. Why? It fails the retroarch test! While distro hopping recently, I did try mint to see if things have improved (mint was the reason I had switched to manjaro out of frustration after a few years of using mint) and gave it the retroarch test... Nope, the gui acted odd and none of the cores would even install: fubar. Could I have figured it out? I only spent ~1hr trying to figure it out... Maybe, but why bother? It works OTB on manjaro!

Is mint a good distro? Yes, I had used it for many years, but I don't think it is for a complete beginner, and I think leads to many frustrated with linux with how much it is recommended. Is it fair to judge a distro on a single program? No, and I know it is silly to do so, but in my experience, if retroarch works no problems, that pretty much tells me no other programs are going to give me problems. Again, I know it is very silly, but works for me when deciding a distro :3

 

[Graw]

Now for linux mint... I do not think mint is a good starting point. Why? It fails the retroarch test! While distro hopping recently, I did try mint to see if things have improved (mint was the reason I had switched to manjaro out of frustration after a few years of using mint) and gave it the retroarch test... Nope, the gui acted odd and none of the cores would even install: fubar. Could I have figured it out? I only spent ~1hr trying to figure it out... Maybe, but why bother? It works OTB on manjaro!

I generally avoid using packages from the Ubuntu repository if I can help it. They tend to be out of date a lot. I also tend to agree Ubuntu based distros in general aren't great for beginners. It's very easy to break things by updating and the instinct is to rely on apt and the Ubuntu repositories for software and you'll end up finding quite a few broken packages. Either that or you start adding a bunch of repositories and your whole system starts to feel like it's duct taped together. I'm not sure why so many people recommend Ubuntu based distros for linux noobies. Every problem I've ever had with Linux was directly related to the Ubuntu stuff and not actually Linux itself.

 

[Mopeybloke]

You can see some benchmarks on Youtube. Usually Windows is faster if you are not using an Arch Linux variant. Or so is my impression. You want the latest kernel versions for the performance improvements. I ain't going to make a recommendation to you, but take a look at some tube results.

 

[kuroninneko]

I know what you mean. I use old version of blender like 2.76.
I use windows but I think I will turn it to Linux.
In fact I have a bad problem with DirectX 9.0 I think Linux is much better.

Im hoping one day Linux will become the standard. Every new version of windows seems more and more like a hustle. Just bought my gaming pc 2 years ago and Microsoft is trying to tell me my pc does not meet the windows 11 requirements and they are trying to convince me to sell or donate my computer for a new win11 machine.

 

[diapered]

I generally avoid using packages from the Ubuntu repository if I can help it. They tend to be out of date a lot. I also tend to agree Ubuntu based distros in general aren't great for beginners. It's very easy to break things by updating and the instinct is to rely on apt and the Ubuntu repositories for software and you'll end up finding quite a few broken packages. Either that or you start adding a bunch of repositories and your whole system starts to feel like it's duct taped together. I'm not sure why so many people recommend Ubuntu based distros for linux noobies. Every problem I've ever had with Linux was directly related to the Ubuntu stuff and not actually Linux itself.

Exactly! Thank you! I always thought I was crazy because ubuntu/mint is so often recommended to newbies, but I really think anything debian based is not for newbies: you are going to NEED the cl at some point because you need to navigate some of the issues you mentioned and I don't think any gui software manager is going to help with that. Package management requires extra care on a distro like that which newbies won't understand. I highly doubt anyone here that has used debian/ubuntu/mint has not ever had to fix something using apt at the cl...

That's why I recommend manjaro for newbies. I don't know what crazy magic they are working over there at manjaro to make an arch based distro so newbie friendly, but it works. Yes, it is arch with training wheels (I wouldn't use AUR in practice on manjaro even though you can enable pamac support for it, but you still got flatpaks >_>) So Arch based newbie friendly is definitely manjaro.

As for redhat derivatives, mandriva was not newbie friendly, imo, but that was the only one I used for a bit. I know fedora is popular, but I don't know how newbie friendly it is, I think @NatalieZaki uses fedora from the other linux thread, so might have an opinion on that.

 

[Graw]

Exactly! Thank you! I always thought I was crazy because ubuntu/mint is so often recommended to newbies,

Back when I first switched to Linux ubuntu probably was the best distro for noobs. There wasn't really a lot of user friendly distros the way there is now. I think it's maybe just outdated advice based on old information.

 

[Varyag]

I don't have anything much to add to this thread that hasn't already been said, or that would take me over 40 minutes to type a wall of text for. I'll just say that yes, Linux is much more efficient at using your system resources, and you can get most games that you wish working on it with some effort. I salvaged my old Windows 8.1 laptop from 2013 with Arch Linux and it's literally working better now than the Lenovo shitbox I bought in 2019.

Go distrohop for a bit, install some different distros and see what you like! They're all different but similar, and they all work on the same base. My persona favorites and recommendations, for various different reasons are:
Linux Mint (Debian Edition), MX Linux, Fedora (or some alternate flavor like Bazzite or Nobara) and the trendy and venerable Arch Linux (also could use Endeavour if you don't want the trouble of setting it up... but then you won't learn how things work when you need to fix it)

the greatest advantage AND the greatest disavantage about Linux, is that YOU own the system and you can do whatever the fuck you want with it. you also have to fix it after you inevitably break it, lol.

 

[happymasksalesman]

Im hoping one day Linux will become the standard. Every new version of windows seems more and more like a hustle. Just bought my gaming pc 2 years ago and Microsoft is trying to tell me my pc does not meet the windows 11 requirements and they are trying to convince me to sell or donate my computer for a new win11 machine.

I can even imagine update my windows. I know windows 11 maybe have new features but i must think about the DirectX. I still don't know if I have DirectX 12!

 

[_oBSOLEte_]

Exactly! Thank you! I always thought I was crazy because ubuntu/mint is so often recommended to newbies, but I really think anything debian based is not for newbies: you are going to NEED the cl at some point because you need to navigate some of the issues you mentioned and I don't think any gui software manager is going to help with that. Package management requires extra care on a distro like that which newbies won't understand. I highly doubt anyone here that has used debian/ubuntu/mint has not ever had to fix something using apt at the cl...

That's why I recommend manjaro for newbies. I don't know what crazy magic they are working over there at manjaro to make an arch based distro so newbie friendly, but it works. Yes, it is arch with training wheels (I wouldn't use AUR in practice on manjaro even though you can enable pamac support for it, but you still got flatpaks >_>) So Arch based newbie friendly is definitely manjaro.

As for redhat derivatives, mandriva was not newbie friendly, imo, but that was the only one I used for a bit. I know fedora is popular, but I don't know how newbie friendly it is, I think @NatalieZaki uses fedora from the other linux thread, so might have an opinion on that.

Debian based is still fine for beginners. You dont get the latest git package but sometimes that's better. It was never the goal of Ubuntu or Mint to be the bleeding edge nightly build of stuffs.

And adding PPAs or using AURs is in essence the same. Just like PPAs, you'll have to do with AURs at some points in your journey. Just trying to play 3DO on Retroarch with the Arch Libretro packages for example.

So all in all the post I was replying to is still good advice, and it also talks about Lutris which is IMO more interesting than discussing distro flavors ad nauseam. There's no bad choice for beginners in what was proposed so far, as with anything, in the beginning it's just a matter of picking something and sticking with it, at least for a bit.