Ignored users

[Zerpina]

I don't know if this can be done on Xeno, but what the hell... just a shot in the dark.

I know that when you ignore a user, you don’t see them, but why can they still see you?
I wonder if there is a way that, if you ignore a user, it automatically makes them ignore you, and they can’t undo it. Some users as you know, bother specific other users just for the lulz, but if they were, say, getting ignored and couldn’t undo it, it would put a stop to it.

Basically, like muting each other from one end, where the person who ignores the other user could undo the ignore if they felt so inclined, but the user being ignored couldn’t undo it... just to see what the other user is posting.

I always thought it was odd that if you ignore someone, they can still see your posts.

Again dunno if it can be Done, just a shot in the dark.

 

[RanmyakuIchi's icon RanmyakuIchi RanmyakuIchi]

I don’t think we’re missing the point. The solution is clear and already exists: warn and ban troublemakers.

We can’t adopt a "better safeguard" approach at the cost of limiting open discussions, which are the very purpose of a forum. Blocking users like on social media goes against the nature of this space.

There also doesn’t appear to be such a large number of problematic users that the current moderation team can’t handle it. If there is, maybe the answer is more moderators, not new blocking mechanisms.

I agree with this, but banning hasn't been a thing for a while now, and reader mode is largely a
temporary solution.

 

[PacGuy]

I agree with this, but banning hasn't been a thing for a while now, and reader mode is largely a
temporary solution.

You can be put into reader mode infinitely. It's no different than a ban.

 

[Stingy Perry Stingy Perry]

First of all, I’m sorry that you and others have had issues with problematic users in the past. That really sucks.

That said, I don’t think we’re missing the point. The solution is clear and already exists: warn and ban troublemakers.

We can’t adopt a "better safeguard" approach at the cost of limiting open discussions, which are the very purpose of a forum. Blocking users like on social media goes against the nature of this space.

There also doesn’t appear to be such a large number of problematic users that the current moderation team can’t handle it. If there is, maybe the answer is more moderators, not new blocking mechanisms.

To put it bluntly fungi never die it only need time to spawn again.

 

[PacGuy]

To put it bluntly fungi never die it only need time to spawn again.

I'm still curious who we are talking about. I've seen none of the animosity we keep saying is going on

 

[.arkasth]

Yeah, mods that are trustworthy.

Well, all moderators are expected to be trustworthy, which is why a vetting process is important when choosing them.

Did something happen in the past that made you say that?

 

[ZEGA ZONIC]

Did something happen in the past that made you say that?

I trust the mods here. So it's not a past thing. I'm just saying.

 

[RanmyakuIchi's icon RanmyakuIchi RanmyakuIchi]

It's true that there really aren't many troublemakers here overall, but that logic goes both ways too. 5 or 6 users ignoring 2 or 3 harassers isn't going to suddenly limit open discussions on the whole website for everyone. Outside of a few outliers, I doubt anyone here even knows what other people's ignore lists look like, and I sincerely doubt a change like this would suddenly suffocate the forum.

I'd be fine with a feature like this being Mod enabled only honestly. That way it doesn't get abused or overly used but can be set-up if mods feel intervention is needed. Mods can already enable force ignore, this would just be an extension of that.

 

[.arkasth]

ATenderLad was a pretty shit moderator, and also like 13. But they aren't one anymore. The answer is never more mods.

I misread @RanmyakuIchi's post — I thought he meant that there weren’t enough moderators. English isn’t my first language, so that was my mistake.

I agree that we should have a minimum number of effective moderators.

About this ATenderLad guy: yeah, shitty mods exist, but they’re not the majority. I’ve been actively participating in forums since the early 2000s , and I can only recall one bad moderator (and maybe two or three major dramas, if that matters).

 

[trickybus]

You can be put into reader mode infinitely. It's no different than a ban.

Speaking from experience?

 

[ZEGA ZONIC]

About this ATenderLad guy: yeah, shitty mods exist, but they’re not the majority. I’ve been actively participating in forums since 1998, and I can only recall one bad moderator (and maybe two or three major dramas, if that matters).

I've dealt with a shitty mod too, back when there was a CDR Discord.

 

[PacGuy]

Speaking from experience?

Me? Getting banned from somewhere? Unheard of. It hurts me you would think that good sir. :P


(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

 

[thumbsdown]

maybe the answer is more moderators

the answer is Glimbo hands down

 

[ZEGA ZONIC]

the answer is Glimbo hands down

Or me.

 

[RanmyakuIchi's icon RanmyakuIchi RanmyakuIchi]

I misread @RanmyakuIchi's post — I thought he meant that there weren’t enough moderators. English isn’t my first language, so that was my mistake.

Ah, no worries

 

[Stingy Perry Stingy Perry]

Due to the forum only having a “Reader Mode” make some members wanting to have a “two way ignore system “. Since the Ban System has been lifted a Reader Mode doesn’t guarantee that the said offender would charge their ways after their ordeal. The fact some might even made new accounts after being banned is a valid reason of member to remain invisible to the eyes of those unsavory bunch.

 

[NOTthatHARD]

If it's a thread by someone I already don't want to talk to, good.

Then don't read the thread, simple.

I feel like ignore isn't going to be used if someone doesn't "like their opinions," it's more for when someone's being antagonistic and won't just leave you alone. Not everything requires a mod intervention. The notion of it being weak and cowardly sounds like one of those really abrasive guys who just likes to argue, like "OH you don't want to debate me?" all the time. No, I don't. We're not all supposed to spend time together in life.

Never ignore people for being dumb or annoying, even they have some good things to say every once in a awhile and if you put them on ignore you will never see those good comments or threads; you may even learn something new, who knows.