how corporations use smartphones to rule the world

Time to go back to walkie-talkies and/or Morse code. I'm beginning to think that my borderline illiteracy when it comes to smartphones might be a good thing.
Amusingly enough, there's a Walkie-talkie app for Android (several, actually).

I have used them to mess with the kids by speaking directly into their tablet from another room XD
 
I dig the article, I find myself agreeing with a lot of it. I have a pretty stubborn disposition regarding smartphones and have barely owned any the past decade (I don't have one now).
 
I've used LineageOS for years now, with my banking app and the phone's biometrics. My advice would be to pick a fairphone or whatever with working biometrics and put your money in a bank that doesnt force spyware on you.

Same thing with eID. No problem to report there neither.
what bank do you use ?

only bank i manage to get working reliably on lineage is HelloBank, Revolut straight up refuse to launch and idk if Boursobank work or not last time I tried to use it it seems to work but some actions just glitch out so idk (could be that boursobank just have insanely janky software)
(I don't have one now).
gigachad
 
I disagree on the prospect of them thinking computers are a mistake. If that were the case, they’d probably try to gimp the influence, which would screw them over in the long run because computers are so tightly connected to everyday life now while smartphones will struggle to press small buttons or with a lot of websites in general
Let me tell you about a little OS called “Windows 11.”
 
Have you tried finding your bank app on the Aurora Store?
I never downloaded anywhere else than f-droid and aurora store all my bank apps come from there already
None of your business, and it's none of mine which ones you use either
it would help other europeans to know which banks work well on degoogled phones and which ones do not

speaking of which https://github.com/PrivSec-dev/banking-apps-compat-report/issues?q=is:issue state:closed
list of every bank app in the world with how well they work on GrapheneOS
 
I never downloaded anywhere else than f-droid and aurora store all my bank apps come from there already

it would help other europeans to know which banks work well on degoogled phones and which ones do not

speaking of which https://github.com/PrivSec-dev/banking-apps-compat-report/issues?q=is:issue state:closed
list of every bank app in the world with how well they work on GrapheneOS

Oh my that's an impressive list of banks working on degoogled smartphones. I guess it would be shorter to list which bank app does not work then.
 
I wish I could muster up the strength to care but I really just don't anymore. I tried enough to even buy a linux phone but in the end I just accepted my fate. I am weak and I do not like it.
I do also really fucking hate how the whole modern world is essentially built to rely on a couple major corporations and their software. That is just a god damn mistake.
 
There is much to say about the problem of closed gardens re: software. We have an incoming cohort of young people that don't know how folders work on PCs, because they've been raised in homes and schools that are funded towards buying cheap software with highly limited architecture: the Chromebook Generation, the iOS Generation, whatever you want to call it. The Eternal Summer warned about in the early 1990s has come to fruition in a way that no one alive at the time was truly predicting.

But you're thinking too literally about the physical form of the devices and the nitty and gritty of the hardware: while the internet was inarguably a better place when 'online' was a rooted location in the household, rather than a omni-accessible place by everyone, the problem is the infrastructure of the contemporary online world. It is basically a crumbling Balkan bomb shelter compared to even the early 2010s, which in turn was considered a blast zone compared to the 2000s at the time. Smartphones are the predominant facilitator of this problem, but it is a problem that extends to massive failures of regulation and capturing of purpose. Home computers are not seen as a mistake, you're misreading the wrong aspect of this deliberately created issue.

There isn't much of a separation from online and 'the real world' any longer, because there isn't much to do online anymore: almost all the websites are dopamine-addiction generators that target every person of every age range, so there isn't any separation of atmosphere that those in their late 20s and up remember from their formative years online. Kids pretty much have Roblox and streaming, both relying on creating dopamine & gambling addiction problems in their youth. What we call online is more or less a graveyard tour now. You post on the dilapidated social media websites that killed off the previous hobbyist infrastructure online, or you read Wikipedia articles controlled by increasingly suspiciously American military base-aligned IP addresses, or you scroll through the utter wasteland of AI-generated 'media/content' that has completely wiped out any incentive for small-scale human creative ingenuity that the internet was great for. Reddit and Discord have both absorbed the previous two decades of fandom/hobbyist/creative communities, and made their information increasingly difficult if not outright impossible (in the case of Discord) to store, search and archive, which has been catastrophic for the the idea of the internet as a home base for specific, particular and relevant information that bolstered all sorts of lifestyles and ideas. Search engines have been wiped out: while they still exist, they have the function of arcade claw machines - they only pretend to pick up the information and dangle it in front of your eyes, and then they drop it back into inaccessibility, if they find it at all.

The online infrastructure has collapsed because it is more useful for increasingly right-wing, war-hungry governments belonging to a certain hegemony, one that requires angry, info-starved, dopamine-fried and ultimately compliantly stupid individuals to ignore what they see in front of them. This is intentional: the only super highway of information allowed to remain is one that allows people to post about their favourite franchise IP & why the world should preemptively nuke China, creating walking foot soldiers for conflicts we haven't seen the origins of yet. Just endless anger and for what?

This problem has been largely facilitated by smartphones and the way that modern app software works, frying the minds of nearly all who use them, but smartphones are only one facilitator of a problem that extends far beyond the literal hardware of how we access online. We access online, and then find that there is nothing left to access. The era of the internet up until roughly 2016/2017 was better than what we have now, simply because while there were still smartphones around, the internet that could be accessed via smartphones or PCs was still largely fit for purpose, even if the issues were creeping in at that point.

That is the larger problem that we have to be frank about. The differences between PCs and smartphones are not arbitrary, one is clearly worse for the online ecosystem than the other by virtue of one allowing instant access from the dumbest people alive & generationally-incoherent old people, but it is only a small slice of the issue.
 
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We should go back to talking in person ;D
Talk to other people? Are you insane? That would require having manners and common courtesy something a lot of people severely lack anymore, much like common sense.

I agree with OP about what they said, and mostly the data tracking and gathering. Yes, they do it with any device you use that has internet access, whether you like it or not. Even if you have the cheapest flip phone, they still know everywhere you go, visit, and what you buy.

No, I am not a conspiracy nut. We all know Roswell was an inside job by Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster to fool people into buying stock in Nike sneakers, but I digress.

Planned obsolescence started in the twenties, honestly, with light bulb companies. When they saw the bulbs lasted too long, they decided to change that. You can read the story here It's a old practice.... The TL;DR is they made the bulbs go from 2,500 hours to 1,000 so more profits would be gained. It kind of snowballed from there.

And here we are
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There is much to say about the problem of closed gardens re: software. We have an incoming cohort of young people that don't know how folders work on PCs, because they've been raised in homes and schools that are funded towards buying cheap software with highly limited architecture: the Chromebook Generation, the iOS Generation, whatever you want to call it. The Eternal Summer warned about in the early 1990s has come to fruition in a way that no one alive at the time was truly predicting.

But you're thinking too literally about the physical form of the devices and the nitty and gritty of the hardware: while the internet was inarguably a better place when 'online' was a rooted location in the household, rather than a omni-accessible place by everyone, the problem is the infrastructure of the contemporary online world. It is basically a crumbling Balkan bomb shelter compared to even the early 2010s, which in turn was considered a blast zone compared to the 2000s at the time. Smartphones are the predominant facilitator of this problem, but it is a problem that extends to massive failures of regulation and capturing of purpose. Home computers are not seen as a mistake, you're misreading the wrong aspect of this deliberately created issue.

There isn't much of a separation from online and 'the real world' any longer, because there isn't much to do online anymore: almost all the websites are dopamine-addiction generators that target every person of every age range, so there isn't any separation of atmosphere that those in their late 20s and up remember from their formative years online. Kids pretty much have Roblox and streaming, both relying on creating dopamine & gambling addiction problems in their youth. What we call online is more or less a graveyard tour now. You post on the dilapidated social media websites that killed off the previous hobbyist infrastructure online, or you read Wikipedia articles controlled by increasingly suspiciously American military base-aligned IP addresses, or you scroll through the utter wasteland of AI-generated 'media/content' that has completely wiped out any incentive for small-scale human creative ingenuity that the internet was great for. Reddit and Discord have both absorbed the previous two decades of fandom/hobbyist/creative communities, and made their information increasingly difficult if not outright impossible (in the case of Discord) to store, search and archive, which has been catastrophic for the the idea of the internet as a home base for specific, particular and relevant information that bolstered all sorts of lifestyles and ideas. Search engines have been wiped out: while they still exist, they have the function of arcade claw machines - they only pretend to pick up the information and dangle it in front of your eyes, and then they drop it back into inaccessibility, if they find it at all.

The online infrastructure has collapsed because it is more useful for increasingly right-wing, war-hungry governments belonging to a certain hegemony, one that requires angry, info-starved, dopamine-fried and ultimately compliantly stupid individuals to ignore what they see in front of them. This is intentional: the only super highway of information allowed to remain is one that allows people to post about their favourite franchise IP & why the world should preemptively nuke China, creating walking foot soldiers for conflicts we haven't seen the origins of yet. Just endless anger and for what?

This problem has been largely facilitated by smartphones and the way that modern app software works, frying the minds of nearly all who use them, but smartphones are only one facilitator of a problem that extends far beyond the literal hardware of how we access online. We access online, and then find that there is nothing left to access. The era of the internet up until roughly 2016/2017 was better than what we have now, simply because while there were still smartphones around, the internet that could be accessed via smartphones or PCs was still largely fit for purpose, even if the issues were creeping in at that point.

That is the larger problem that we have to be frank about. The differences between PCs and smartphones are not arbitrary, one is clearly worse for the online ecosystem than the other by virtue of one allowing instant access from the dumbest people alive & generationally-incoherent old people, but it is only a small slice of the issue.

If I had a nickel for every time people talked about dopamine without understanding what it is or what it actually does, I'd be a billionaire by now.
 
If I had a nickel for every time people talked about dopamine without understanding what it is or what it actually does, I'd be a billionaire by now.
I think you're mistaking me as someone pushing the 'dopamine fasting' fad. That whole idea is silly and does not engage with the infrastructure problem that I was overall referring to: that whole fad only makes excuses for the infrastructure problems causing the issue, not my point. I am simply referring to the well-studied problems that are facilitated by the contemporary internet superstructure.
 
This thread hits hard.
 
The literal only reason I even have a smartphone is because my bank requires I use their app to manage my account these days. Which is, of course, a mandatory "service" I get billed for monthly.
Why should people ever be allowed to control their own data and device usage, right?

Just force them into whatever approach you want and call it "convenience" or "safety" or whatever. So long as you push that narrative hard enough and enough people just accept it instead of informing themselves nobody's gonna stop you.
That's actually what makes me absolutely terrified of losing my phone or it being stolen from me. Nowadays your entire existence can be linked to that weird glass and plastic box, from your socials to your literal wallet. And you are absolutely treated as a contrarian if you don't adapt.
 
I remember a concept from history, about the need to let a certain amount of time pass, before you can discuss an era with the proper distance and understanding of what truly influenced the course of events, but with the extreme speed we're experiencing today, I don't think we need to wait that long, because it's safe to say even now that phones used for browsing are just slop and any current SNS is just a stupid and defective objects.

Ten years ago I wasn't familiar with the concept of apps, so, when I wanted to use YouTube in the background, I would do it through Chrome, at first also Google was fine with this, but then the company started playing dirty and began to blocking my profile and claiming I was making 'strange suspicious logins', so I realized it was time to download the dedicated app, but after a while, that too became obsolete, claiming my phone 'was too old' and I thought to myself 'How can it be too old to play a video that you stream by default at 144/240 pixels?' (Even the PlayStation 1 from 1994 has a video resolution of at least 224 pixels).

Then the same thing happened with Google Play Store, so I started uninstalling everything. Now I use a modded version of YouTube that even works with the screen off and for other apps, I download the APKs on my PC and then transfer them to my phone.

Fuck this shit. I've wanted to get a new phone for a while now, because I'm not happy with the photo quality anymore, but I've been putting it off on purpose until now, just to do the exact opposite of what they had planned.
 
about youtube there's an app called Newpipe, no ads, video downloads, background play, no account tho so no doomscrooling feed nor the ability to comment videos

Youtube Revanced which is a modded youtube apk (kind of a hassle to setup)

Fennec browser (and other firefox forks) got youtube background play extensions
 
In the case of point 1, this is solely because of the smartphone manufacturers. Almost all of them have their system UI's integrated into Android (Samsung's One UI, Asus Zenfone, OnePlus OxygenOS, Huawei EMUI, Vivo Funtouch and Orgin OS, Realme Realme UI), and if not, they have a completely customised Android distributions like Amazon's Fire OS, Meizu Flyme, Xiaomi HyperOS, even Google GrapheneOS in Pixels...
 
Corporations use more than just smartphones, but that definitely is the most contentious since just about everyone has one now.
 
about youtube there's an app called Newpipe, no ads, video downloads, background play, no account tho so no doomscrooling feed nor the ability to comment videos

Youtube Revanced which is a modded youtube apk (kind of a hassle to setup)

Fennec browser (and other firefox forks) got youtube background play extensions
I use this app called BG YT Player.
 

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