"Hello you absolute Legends" Karl Jobst loses lawsuit against Billy Mitchell

[Spike's iconSpike]

Pretty rough out there in the comments, like 80% haters, 20% glad of the speed running content.

 

[RetroLaw]

This is funny taken out of context, but this is after he lost so he was just having some dumb fun with it.

He said and did way more stupid things. Like his non-apology video.

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Pretty rough out there in the comments, like 80% haters, 20% glad of the speed running content.

I don't think this is only haters, some comments were critical of Karl and pointing out his many mistake rather than just insulting him. He really did take things way to far just for clout.

 

[Hourai]

Pretty rough out there in the comments, like 80% haters, 20% glad of the speed running content.

I'm not surprised, given how invested he was in this. As Leikeylosh said, he fundraised money for something people didn't know the true reason behind. Would imagine a lot of people see him as petty, given how hard he went in on making videos about Billy gossip. I'm glad he's doing more speedrunning stuff, but it's gonna take at least a few months for the heat to die down.

 

[Skeetos]

The "I lost " video was what I expected : textbook gaslighting lol.

As I said before, Karl should've stuck to speedrunning content. At first I was hoping he'd win, but once he got deep into the Apollo Legend aspect and continuing to make like 20 videos reassuring us that yes, Silly Bitchell is in fact an asshole, and yes, I am in fact still suing him. It just got tiring and I stopped watching long before the court date. Idk, you reap what you sow I suppose.

 

[Spike's iconSpike]

I suspect once he started exposing cheaters he got much more views that with plain speedrunning videos. But he got carried away with Billy. Exposing cheaters is fine I guess every now and then but not getting obsessed with anyone to the point you do 20-some videos on them.

I also don't agree on using thumbnails like this one:

I mean he cheated, does it allow us to put his face up there with that text for everyone to see millions of times? Seems a bit extreme. It's a young lad, we all make mistakes. He didn't kill anyone. To me this is too much, it's borderline harassing.

 

[snes9x]

I agree, I'd much rather hear about new records or skips or whatever - actual speedrunning content in other words - than community drama. Maybe in cases of like decade-plus records being proven as fake, sure, that's worth a video. But I don't really care about some random teen faking a speedrun in a community that's pretty small to begin with. Just more grist for the drama mill.

 

[Yankee]

Drama-farming content guy in a terminally online community of socially challenged gamers is like a fox in the hen-house. Easy pickin's.

Jobst bit off more than he could chew this time though, and Cock-Of-The-Walk Big Willy Mithcell wouldn't be bullied. Fox bit the tail of a Wolf now and all the chickens that used to be fans are in the comments saying 'Wait, I've been following for months/years and you never made it clear this was over Apollo Legend...", "I donated to the court fund because I thought it was financially unfeasible for you to continue otherwise!" (PS it wasn't), because he'd been pulling the wool over their eyes.

The Judge said it best: "Mitchell cheated at a video game 40 years ago but you said he caused a suicide with no evidence of such and statements to the opposite. Plus you're a bit of an arrogant twat and fleeced your parasocial audience of frivolous cash under the guise of justice for Donkey Kong or something. Mitchell wins, court adjourned."

 

[RetroLaw]

I suspect once he started exposing cheaters he got much more views that with plain speedrunning videos. But he got carried away with Billy. Exposing cheaters is fine I guess every now and then but not getting obsessed with anyone to the point you do 20-some videos on them.

I also don't agree on using thumbnails like this one:
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I mean he cheated, does it allow us to put his face up there with that text for everyone to see millions of times? Seems a bit extreme. It's a young lad, we all make mistakes. He didn't kill anyone. To me this is too much, it's borderline harassing.

Yeah that was my biggest issue with Karl, he's basically a bully. Exposing a cheater is one thing, but he definitively has that "hey guys, lets look and laugh at him" attitude. He's super abbrasive, yet he acts like he's the better man telling his audience "come on guys, don't go be mean to that person".
People make mistakes, no need to have these mistakes on the internet forever in a very humiliating video.

I've done a my fair share of stupid things, I grew up, and I wouldn't want to have it shoven in my throat by a legion of stupid fanboys because someone made a video about it.

Funny thing is, I'm on his discord, and someone posted negative comments from youtube there. He asked to not put these types of comments on there. Dude loves to humiliate others but is super sensitive about negative comments.

It's hard for me to feel bad about him, this whole situation feels more like karma than anything else to be honest.

Please 2025, don't have Summoning Salt be an actual asshole.

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Nah SS is way to amazing and wholesome

 

[Hourai]

Please 2025, don't have Summoning Salt be an actual asshole.

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Nah SS is way to amazing and wholesome

I see Salt every so often in some small score attack channels I follow (~20 viewers), and he's pretty nice. If he's an ass, he's smart enough to be an ass behind closed doors.

 

[SpikeSlania]

I only found out about Karl Jobst when he uncovered the Completionist with SomeOrdinaryGamers and that blew up in the gaming space. SOG did give some of his insight on the Karl verdict and how not even he knew the lawsuit was over defamation and figured it was about the cheating scandal and he worked with Karl on multiple stories. But yeah, like SOG I have to side with Billy in this court case sadly even if Karl helped bring to life how corrupt the Completionist is.

 

[RetroLaw]

I see Salt every so often in some small score attack channels I follow (~20 viewers), and he's pretty nice. If he's an ass, he's smart enough to be an ass behind closed doors.

I think he has the perfect balance of being nice and positive without it being other the top or his whole personality (like Jirard or Degeneres), which makes him looks genuine in my eyes.

I could be wrong but I don't think so. Probably my favorite youtuber with ColourShed.

 

[Ne0Griever]

As a follower of Karl I wasn't expecting him to lose, but I didn't follow the ins and outs of the case either. Now it's easy to beat a dead horse, and many people are doing just that. I guess that's how people are nowadays. Anyway...

PS: Karl Jobst is a youtuber that exposes cheaters. Billy Mitchell is a retro gaming record holder or so I'm told.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1906936348189290503

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I was also pretty shocked when I found out, wort of all is the character assassination by all the people "covering" the subject beating the dead horse is a nice way to put it.

Although I admit that Karl should have addressed the point of the subject of the lawsuit more thoughtfully, not for people like us that followed him but for a broader audience that was gathering to see David take on Goliath.