Solved Game comments

[RuckusMcGuckus]

Have comments under games be tied to RetroGameTalk accounts instead of Disqus? Just makes sense since updates now happen on the /repository, and my account is logged-in the top right corner. Doesn't bother me, just a suggestion. I know it could be a lot

 

[dejiko]

i agree with this statement, nyo

 

[JustLooking123]

This probably won't be an easy task.
As a user, I like this feature, but there might be some technical reasons for avoiding it.
Also, the comments section of games are quite a treasure, and if keeping them on Disqus would make them safer, I'm okay with it.

 

[Deleted member 537]

Have comments under games be tied to RetroGameTalk accounts instead of Disqus? Just makes sense since updates now happen on the /repository, and my account is logged-in the top right corner. Doesn't bother me, just a suggestion. I know it could be a lot

i support this, Disqus is a very janky, shitty and barebone site.

 

[Spike's iconSpike]

It's not that I don't want to it's technically difficult to do.
What's needed it's Xenforo threads as Wordpress comments add-on sort of thing.

And the people that created plugins that do that are not only expensive but unresponsive and overall not very nice people. Someone that won't even care to answer pre-sales questions does not deserve the money. And buying the thing does not guarantee it will work as expected or at all.

There's a different company that also created a similar feature (themehouse) but now they conveniently switched to a "subscription model" and want $250 monthly for an add-on that used to cost $25 once...
It's a pretty ridiculous situation, when confronted they defended their decision (I'm sure it works for them!)

So yeah kinda stuck in that front at the moment. I'm always on the look for someone to create that solution but haven't found anything that works, custom development is an option but it's hard to find a person that knows what they are doing and doesn't charge a fortune.

 

[JustLooking123]

Getting inspiration from @AnonymousCookieMonster, I'm thinking there might be some shortcuts to make things connected without the need for a plugin...
How about using iframes?
In other words, creating a real thread on the Xenforo side for each game, and just putting an iframe on the WordPress side...
In that case, the only problem would be transferring existing comments... and also creating a headless template for forums in iframe...
Another option might be to provide both Disqus version of comments, and Xenforo version of comments... and postpone the transferring process.
Just some ideas.

 

[AnonymousCookieMonster]

Hmmm... If I were to do it i'd pull all the comments from each page/game. Generate a 'thread' per game in it's own subcategory, and recreate the conversations (only need to add a 'parent/child' tree structure), then matching ID's attach users to names (those that don't match can always be linked manually later). Floating/deleted comments probably have a default user/avatar take credit for those.

As for posting on the page you could post in the forum, or you could reply to the page, the page would likely have a simple post/reply feature which just forwards it's request to the fourm (leave images and complex stuff likely for an edit).

How about using iframes?
In other words, creating a real thread on the Xenforo side for each game, and just putting an iframe on the WordPress side...

Something like that could work too. But if you're moving it over you probably want it all in-house, so they can't make demands or shut it down later.

 

[JustLooking123]

Hmmm... If I were to do it i'd pull all the comments from each page/game. Generate a 'thread' per game in it's own subcategory, and recreate the conversations (only need to add a 'parent/child' tree structure), then matching ID's attach users to names (those that don't match can always be linked manually later). Floating/deleted comments probably have a default user/avatar take credit for those.

As far as i know, users of Disqus are separate from users of RGT (Xenforo side).
So i wonder if matching ids would be easy task, as there's no obvious relation.
Maybe the easiest way is to leave Disqus for legacy comments, possibly making it read-only.
Or just create a new user on the Xenforo side for each Disqus user, so all of it can be transferred as a whole... and eventually merge them with real users on the Xenforo side.

As for posting on the page you could post in the forum, or you could reply to the page, the page would likely have a simple post/reply feature which just forwards it's request to the fourm (leave images and complex stuff likely for an edit).

Do you mean emulating how Xenforo send request for posting?
It might be possible, but i think there would be lot of hassles...

How about using iframes?
In other words, creating a real thread on the Xenforo side for each game, and just putting an iframe on the WordPress side...

Something like that could work too. But if you're moving it over you probably want it all in-house, so they can't make demands or shut it down later.

Well, As far as i know, Xenforo side is self-hosted and as in-house as Wordpress side.
They are both even on same domain. So i don't think we would have any problem of that kind.

 

[AnonymousCookieMonster]

As far as i know, users of Disqus are separate from users of RGT (Xenforo side).
So i wonder if matching ids would be easy task, as there's no obvious relation.

I was meaning... by username... Me and several others i see use identical usernames; But otherwise yeah there's no relation.

But if a match can't be found, Psudo-users can be generated with avatars from Disqus to make it work; Then when you identify the proper users (if they join) it's little more than just changing the owned userID from the psudo-user's posts and then removing the pseudo user. Poof!

I suppose another way would be the Pseudo users would just be generated, and then have a 'claim this user' that you are the same person, and then the admin does the transition for each user, same as above but not automatically assigning based on username for those that are identical.

Well, As far as i know, Xenforo side is self-hosted and as in-house as Wordpress side.
They are both even on same domain. So i don't think we would have any problem of that kind.

No you're missing the point. If you make something that heavily relies on said feature, and then they decide 'hey if you want to keep using this, pay us $1000 a month' you either lose it or pay out the nose.... Amazon web services or other companies have done this. Better you have control of all your assets.

 

[JustLooking123]

No you're missing the point. If you make something that heavily relies on said feature, and then they decide 'hey if you want to keep using this, pay us $1000 a month' you either lose it or pay out the nose.... Amazon web services or other companies have done this. Better you have control of all your assets.

Well, yes i guess i'm missing the point! ?
You mean using iframe to show a part of our own site, would result in extra fee?
Not to mention that the current implementation of Disqus comments also uses iframe! and it's showing an external site too!
I'm sorry, maybe i'm missing something obvious here.
Thank you.

 

[AnonymousCookieMonster]

Well, yes i guess i'm missing the point! ?
You mean using iframe to show a part of our own site, would result in extra fee?
Not to mention that the current implementation of Disqus comments also uses iframe! and it's showing an external site too!

If you're using iframes to point to your own site, then no that shouldn't be an issue.

I don't know the exact hosting site/method, just that external services could be held at ransom especially if they are critical to your business.

But as before Amazon (or other) services have pulled the 'you fully rely on us so we'll overcharge you or you are out of buisness', so best to have some backups or easy ways to move to another service in that event.

 

[JustLooking123]

Indeed!
But as far as i know, neither Xenforo, nor Wordpress are not services, but some php files that are hosted on Spike's servers.
So using iframe shouldn't be a problem here.
But you are correct that we don't know about the details of hosting, and i guess we have already given our suggestions...
So I'll leave it here.

 

[AnonymousCookieMonster]

Xenforo, nor Wordpress are not services, but some php files that are hosted on Spike's servers.

And this is the problem with me being 10+ years out of date on web stuff...

Yes if it's hosted locally, then it shouldn't be a problem. I assumed those were both external sites, not some added php files. Open source projects and resources are wonderful :)

 

[RuckusMcGuckus]

Forgot about this. Not sure if/when Ill use it, but the comments look great. Ask and you just may receive. Thank you Spike and Staff

 

[Spike's iconSpike]

Forgot about this. Not sure if/when Ill use it, but the comments look great. Ask and you just may receive. Thank you Spike and Staff

Thanks it was a pain in the arse, we are talking 80 emails back and forward with the developer to get it to work. Luckily they were great guys and helped get it done.